Pokémon Mafia! Game over! Water wins!

[derfderf34]

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i just dont know any more

[spiesr]

You never knew derf....

[FloresDelMal]

First off, I know sheep in RL. I was just messing with him because there was really nothing to go on. Secondly, Do you think I'm actually that stupid that I would kill him? Saying that I would because no one would think that way is playing a WIFOM card, which I should remind you is scummy. Thirdly, lrn2joke. Seriously, you get all worked up about things people say all the time over the internet. Deal.

in fact you are the one playing the WIFOM card here, that you as an experienced player would never do such a thing, i should remind the ones that dont know the term what WIFOM is: wine in front of me, an argument that could go either way and that scum use to confuse the town; but my pointing out that you killed sheep has also to do with who sheep targeted as the scene provides the hint that he had spotted his killer.

of course he could have targeted you for almost getting him lynched, you just tried to wash your hands of the matter before killing him, threatened as you were of him targeting you then hiding under that bad excuse of WIFOM to say you didnt do it btw im not worked up about anything, im just putting a case together against who i think is the killer, that means every little thing like a joke too can play a part

Why would he infer something that was given to us? The mod told us what this game would be like, with three factions. Also, "mafia" and "faction" are very hard to mix up. Town is a faction and so is mafia. That is essentially an admission of guilt, but I believe im for reasons of my own.

Whatever gave you that idea, I wonder.

as someone said, if he thought there was three informed minorities the line between factions and mafia is inexistent, i do beliave with the clues ani left us there is more to that thought, and of the necessity to get a nker that could target anyone lynched instead of someone who is clumsy at wording.

Fircoal just said brown was scum in that sentence genius. And did you miss the post where I fucking believed him?

obviously i wasnt meaning i agree on the part where he said brown is scum but where he said you put words into his mouth

I really don't like how you just write it off as a simple wording mistake. Especially since he said faction earlier on in his post. Really, if chu comes up scum, you should be lynched next.

and what happens when you come up scum?

again, ppl which is better, lynch a killer who could target anyone or a claimed commuter? vote pancake in case ani doesnt notice it in this way too long post

Fucking skimmer! Come on!

Y'know, I can usually keep my cool during these games just because that's how I am, but you seriously just make things very difficult. You wonder why people get riled up when they argue you, but you're just a really frustrating person to deal with.

im sorry, did i strike a nerve? oh right, i did catch you as scum in the c9 game ani modded!! see, if you can try to metagame and blame my attitude for your lack of deffense, i can do the exact same thing, i caught you as scum before and here it is the case again

don't get fooled ppl, you can see for yourself that his deffense is pure fluff, if you have doubts reread again, it should be clear enough as it is to me that pancake is scum.

[pancakemix]

First off, I know sheep in RL. I was just messing with him because there was really nothing to go on. Secondly, Do you think I'm actually that stupid that I would kill him? Saying that I would because no one would think that way is playing a WIFOM card, which I should remind you is scummy. Thirdly, lrn2joke. Seriously, you get all worked up about things people say all the time over the internet. Deal.

in fact you are the one playing the WIFOM card here, that you as an experienced player would never do such a thing, i should remind the ones that dont know the term what WIFOM is: wine in front of me, an argument that could go either way and that scum use to confuse the town; but my pointing out that you killed sheep has also to do with who sheep targeted as the scene provides the hint that he had spotted his killer.

of course he could have targeted you for almost getting him lynched, you just tried to wash your hands of the matter before killing him, threatened as you were of him targeting you then hiding under that bad excuse of WIFOM to say you didnt do it btw im not worked up about anything, im just putting a case together against who i think is the killer, that means every little thing like a joke too can play a part

O RLY? Because I know exactly who he targeted last night. And it wasn't me. I'll explain later.

Why would he infer something that was given to us? The mod told us what this game would be like, with three factions. Also, "mafia" and "faction" are very hard to mix up. Town is a faction and so is mafia. That is essentially an admission of guilt, but I believe im for reasons of my own.

Whatever gave you that idea, I wonder.

as someone said, if he thought there was three informed minorities the line between factions and mafia is inexistent, i do beliave with the clues ani left us there is more to that thought, and of the necessity to get a nker that could target anyone lynched instead of someone who is clumsy at wording.

But I thought you said the fire group was scum?

Fircoal just said brown was scum in that sentence genius. And did you miss the post where I fucking believed him?

obviously i wasnt meaning i agree on the part where he said brown is scum but where he said you put words into his mouth

Wow, thanks for ignoring where I point out the skim.

I really don't like how you just write it off as a simple wording mistake. Especially since he said faction earlier on in his post. Really, if chu comes up scum, you should be lynched next.

and what happens when you come up scum?

I won't, because this is my last post this game. I know I'm town, and that's all that matters.

again, ppl which is better, lynch a killer who could target anyone or a claimed commuter? vote pancake in case ani doesnt notice it in this way too long post

Fucking skimmer! Come on!

I like how there's no response to this.

Y'know, I can usually keep my cool during these games just because that's how I am, but you seriously just make things very difficult. You wonder why people get riled up when they argue you, but you're just a really frustrating person to deal with.

im sorry, did i strike a nerve? oh right, i did catch you as scum in the c9 game ani modded!! see, if you can try to metagame and blame my attitude for your lack of deffense, i can do the exact same thing, i caught you as scum before and here it is the case again

don't get fooled ppl, you can see for yourself that his deffense is pure fluff, if you have doubts reread again, it should be clear enough as it is to me that pancake is scum.

I'm not meta-gaming. That's a comment on you as a person. Case in point: Avatar sign-up thread, Subs vs. Dubs. You and gimpy exchange fighting words on preference of how to watch anime. Fucking anime. Over the fucking internet. Get real. You're a confrontational person. I'm not going to hang around for that. Either way, the case against me in the C9 were both total bullshit, and so is this. You call my defense fluff, when you're post doesn't say anything on worth. you just drive me into a rage.

Before I leave this hellhole, I'll claim. I'm Bulbasaur, a cop. I investigated Brown Night 1 and he came up town. I inferred bulletproof because i thought he might be a GF. Here is my correspondence with sheep last night:

I'm a tracker. I'm thinking of tracking browng-08.

I already investigated him. He's cleared, but track him for good measure.

What's your role?

Bulbasaur, cop. You?

Chickorita, tracker. How's about I track dano?

Try that then.

Sounds cool

Ani, I'm out. Goodbye.

[spiesr]

as the scene provides the hint that he had spotted his killer.

I know animorpherv1 said scenes may contain clues but I am not sure that he thought that scene out as deeply as that. I think it is likely that the only clue is that sheep was killed by the fire group.

[pancakemix]

9. Once you die, you may continue to post, but no giving away info! Doing so gets you modkilled.

This cheered me up. I'm still leaving though.

[diddle]

This game is twisted as f*ck.

Vote Flores

[FloresDelMal]

Why would he infer something that was given to us? The mod told us what this game would be like, with three factions. Also, "mafia" and "faction" are very hard to mix up. Town is a faction and so is mafia. That is essentially an admission of guilt, but I believe im for reasons of my own.

If you believed him, why did you vote him?

as someone said, if he thought there was three informed minorities the line between factions and mafia is inexistent, i do beliave with the clues ani left us there is more to that thought, and of the necessity to get a nker that could target anyone lynched instead of someone who is clumsy at wording.

But I thought you said the fire group was scum?

Yes, one of my theories is that the scum faction is the fire group; and i thought you were fire group til you went and claimed the opposite, which might as well be a fake claim.

Fircoal just said brown was scum in that sentence genius. And did you miss the post where I fucking believed him?

and its me the one who gets hotblooded over internet arguments? lol this game is not even about a good anime, is pokemon for god sake *giggles

I really don't like how you just write it off as a simple wording mistake. Especially since he said faction earlier on in his post. Really, if chu comes up scum, you should be lynched next.

and what happens when you come up scum?

I won't, because this is my last post this game. I know I'm town, and that's all that matters.

Again, i dont understand why you got so worked up about a simple case put against you, are you trying to say that you are beyond any doubt in a mafia game? some sort of holy child of mafia with credibility granted just because? that's kinda cute.

again, ppl which is better, lynch a killer who could target anyone or a claimed commuter? vote pancake in case ani doesnt notice it in this way too long post

Fucking skimmer! Come on!

I like how there's no response to this.

skimmer of what? i could gladly answer if i were reading your mind, but i still dont develope that skill, call someone "fucking skimmer" hardly points out what i supposedly skimmed.

Y'know, I can usually keep my cool during these games just because that's how I am, but you seriously just make things very difficult. You wonder why people get riled up when they argue you, but you're just a really frustrating person to deal with.

im sorry, did i strike a nerve? oh right, i did catch you as scum in the c9 game ani modded!! see, if you can try to metagame and blame my attitude for your lack of deffense, i can do the exact same thing, i caught you as scum before and here it is the case again

don't get fooled ppl, you can see for yourself that his deffense is pure fluff, if you have doubts reread again, it should be clear enough as it is to me that pancake is scum.

I'm not meta-gaming. That's a comment on you as a person. Case in point: Avatar sign-up thread, Subs vs. Dubs. You and gimpy exchange fighting words on preference of how to watch anime. Fucking anime. Over the fucking internet. Get real. You're a confrontational person. I'm not going to hang around for that. Either way, the case against me in the C9 were both total bullshit, and so is this. You call my defense fluff, when you're post doesn't say anything on worth. you just drive me into a rage.

I know i am the kind of person that people either love or hate and weirdly leaves indifferent, but we are not supposed to argue me, we are supposed to argue the case, which is what mafia is about; that does not make my case a gramme less solid than it was before you attacked me just for being who i am, and not because any flaw i put on my case, anyway i understand this, you just werent able to find a single "REAL" flaw in it.

Anyway i am a sucker for education, so ill make you a better person by allowing you to understand what you did just now, just because i am kind as that not because i am partial to you sweetheart, you are the kind of person who doesnt make me mad, sad, happy or anything, just neutral.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem as abusive, sexist, racist, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or attacking the person who proposed the argument (personal attack) in an attempt to discredit the argument. It is also used when an opponent is unable to find fault with an argument, yet for various reasons, the opponent disagrees with it.

Before I leave this hellhole, I'll claim. I'm Bulbasaur, a cop. I investigated Brown Night 1 and he came up town. I inferred bulletproof because i thought he might be a GF. Here is my correspondence with sheep last night:

I'm a tracker. I'm thinking of tracking browng-08.

I already investigated him. He's cleared, but track him for good measure.

What's your role?

Bulbasaur, cop. You?

Chickorita, tracker. How's about I track dano?

Try that then.

Sounds cool

Ani, I'm out. Goodbye.

ok, for 1 second lets pretend that your claim is believable, this theory could pose a couple of problems:

1.- that means you are in the grass team TOGETHER with Sheep, if so much is true, why did you push for his lynch?

2.- If actually you were a team mate with sheep, both being in the grass faction, that means a single team got 2 investigative roles, a Tracker PLUS a cop, how fucked up is that balance wise?

3.- if you are indeed saying the truth, and you are a "TOWNIE" cop, and now in the middle of this fit, you are leaving... why in your right mind you could leave the poor soul that will replace you being an easy target for the scum lurking around...

As someone said before, you are supposed to be an experienced player, a good one at that (sure i have no proves that this is truth, but the rumour has it), then if you are half as good as you are supposed to be, why could you come up with all this no sense? if i remember well you are a man, so we cant claim it's PMS (pre menstrual syndrome for those of you too young to know or menstruate )

Btw, since dead people cant confirm info Sheep cant say if this conversation is true or fake, we only have your word for it, your enraged, tantrum-prone word.

I think your outing on a whim makes you look scummier than ever, and if you are town, obviously you are not a gramme better than ace, when he claimed roleblocker with a handful of votes on him... and that is sad, too sad, i feel for you little padawan, might your skill and inner wisdom improve over the years, farewell.

Diddle, what is your case against me exactly

[derfderf34]

ok flores you obviouly just plain hate pancake especially but also the rest of us for making read all that crap
smaller posts please
vote flores for making pancake leave

[spiesr]

Here is my problem with this.'
Pancake claimed to be a member of the grass group. He can't have lied about that or another grass would say he lied. He may have lied about being a cop.

[animorpherv1]

nagerous replaces ace1217. THAT'S our last replacement. Vote count coming later.

[spiesr]

But even if pancake is a grass goon he can't have killed sheep if they are both grass. Can a grass member confirm pancake's being grass. Or least if enough people post and don't call his bluff we would have to believe that he is grass. It could be the grass has two investigative rolls. Each group may have a specialty. Grass = Investigation Water = Defensive Fire = Roleblocking? or perhaps Nightkilling?

[spiesr]

Vote flores.
The explanation is simple.

According to the universal win condition each faction wins by having more members than other factions.
You are not on my team.
You are working for the good of your team only.
You are wielding power which threatens every team but your own.
Therefor the other tow factions should lynch you.

[spiesr]

Were is bronwg?

[diddle]

Flores, you need to start defending yourself, leave off PCM, you've done enough damage there, and tell us why we shouldn't lynch you.

[FloresDelMal]

Flores, you need to start defending yourself, leave off PCM, you've done enough damage there, and tell us why we shouldn't lynch you.

because no one have a case against me and my only mistake was to join a kiddy game because ani asked me to? lol? plus i am town, and if anyone could bother to investigate me could find out that; sure, one of the win conditions might be have the highest number of surviving ppl, but there are other possibly win conditions; and if we dont get scum, there will be 2 factions with no real chance of win this game; to me that is reason enough for try to get a scumster.

[nagerous]

Vote Flores


sorry dear, don't hate me but this is what I must do.

[FloresDelMal]

Vote Flores


sorry dear, don't hate me but this is what I must do.

allergic to long posts too? love you anyway babe, even if you cant read *giggles

[FloresDelMal]

ok i suppose that i might as well claim, i belong to the water faction, so much should be obvious from my deffense to brown; and spiers had a pretty nice idea about how the factions must work; it might be true that the grass investigate, the fire NK, and the water are deffensive, because i am a bomb; first time ever i see this role in action, im quite impressed that ani put it on the game in fact.

[diddle]

ok i suppose that i might as well claim, i belong to the water faction, so much should be obvious from my deffense to brown; and spiers had a pretty nice idea about how the factions must work; it might be true that the grass investigate, the fire NK, and the water are deffensive, because i am a bomb; first time ever i see this role in action, im quite impressed that ani put it on the game in fact.

ha. I haven't been out long enough to fall for that. My vote stays.

[animorpherv1]

Seeing as how PCM is out. Mr.i replaces PCM.

[animorpherv1]

VOTE COUNT!

browng (1): Iliad,
PCM (5) : Flores, derfderf34, diddle, nad, spiesr

With 11 alive it's 6 to lynch and 4 to get kicked! 1 for spiesr

Flores gets kicked. HARD

[spiesr]

Your vote count is completely wrong...

[animorpherv1]

I thought it was right. I checked through, but whatever. Show me what I did wrong.

[derfderf34]

pretty much everything other than iliad for browng