gambler21210 AKA t-o-m [cleared/noted]

dexterdexter · Post by **dexterdexter** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:03 am

Replace or delete any xxxxxxx with the appropriate information.
Delete any accusations or entries which do not apply.

Be sure before you accuse someone!

Accused:

gambler21210
t-o-m

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 3564404
Game 3564405
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
Game 2664355

Comments:
Scoring bigpoints with multi's at assassin Doodle games is a classic one. You can see how one suicides the other's target and that's it. The problem is: WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE TOURNEY THEY're in TOGHETHER?!

Stroop · Post by **Stroop** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:52 am

It's more likely to be a Secret Alliance. They help each other win a game, and they both benefit, hopefully without anyone noticing.

That said... I think this is just another case of assdoodle-stupidity, a common phenomenon...

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:53 am

Not multis, but the case for a secret alliance we'll see what the hunters think.

Bones2484 · Post by **Bones2484** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:55 am

Well, in that first game, gambler took two territories. One from t-o-m and one from another player. He didn't attack t-o-m's target once.

I'm not even going to bother looking at the second one.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:56 am

So not multis.

Definitely not multis that's for sure. Perhaps something else, but definitely not multis

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:56 am

Bones2484 wrote:Well, in that first game, gambler took two territories. One from t-o-m and one from another player. He didn't attack t-o-m's target once.

I'm not even going to bother looking at the second one.

Someone accused him of the sui, what you don't know is if he knocked down toms target at all, because it wouldn't be in the log.

Bones2484 · Post by **Bones2484** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:00 pm

nagerous wrote: Someone accused him of the sui, what you don't know is if he knocked down toms target at all, because it wouldn't be in the log.

Yellow made that claim after Cyan (gambler) attacked him.

Neither of them were t-o-m's target. Yellow was just QQ'n that he got attacked.

edit: The OP is likely just upset that he lost a game (not to mention its DOODLE ASSASSIN, nothing annoying ever happens in those... right???) and posted the game numbers that t-o-m and gambler have in common. Look at the third game, for example. It's a freakin TOURNAMENT game and t-o-m is pissed off that he lost.

gambler21210 · Post by **gambler21210** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:28 pm

In the game i was accused - yellow attacked europe advanced so there was 4 men he had 2 territories to kill with 1's on both to win the game i cut him down to 1 to stop him taking the game in the first round to prolong my chance to kill my target and give yellows target a chance to deploy and defend thats when he accused me

Im not even in the same country as tom and have only played a handfull of games.

Stroop · Post by **Stroop** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:33 pm

gambler21210 wrote:Im not even in the same country as tom and have only played a handfull of games.

Yeah... according to your profiles you're both in the UK...

White Moose · Post by **White Moose** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:35 pm

Stroop wrote:
gambler21210 wrote:Im not even in the same country as tom and have only played a handfull of games.
Yeah... according to your profiles you're both in the UK...

United Kingdom isnt one country..

England, Scotland, Northern Ireland Wales are all in the UK

Stroop · Post by **Stroop** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:41 pm

White Moose wrote:
Stroop wrote:
gambler21210 wrote:Im not even in the same country as tom and have only played a handfull of games.
Yeah... according to your profiles you're both in the UK...
United Kingdom isnt one country..

England, Scotland and Wales are all in the UK

Of course

This could imply gambler and t-o-m know each other though, as gambler knows that t-o-m is in another part of the UK (might be on the forums somewhere, but still), making secret diplomacy more likely...

That said, I still don't think they are cheaters

Bones2484 · Post by **Bones2484** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:51 pm

Stroop wrote: making secret diplomacy more likely...

I couldnt find a shred of proof that there was anything fishy in those 3 games. If you can do it, please feel free.

They have played 15 games together. The OP only posted the FFA ones in which t-o-m and/or gambler won the game.

In fact, they've played a total of 5 Assdoodles together (all of which appear to have been at the same time, there are a few players who appear in more than 2 of the 5) and have won 2 between them. Hardly fishy by any means.

Jeff Hardy · Post by **Jeff Hardy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:57 pm

t-o-m wrote: Hi, hunters can look into this in-depth all they like, however they will find nothing on us. We did not have a secret alliance nomatter what a mentally challenged person like dexterdexter might think. That is a big big question there dexter! What are you going to do about the tournie! I have no idea...maybe..delete it!? Oh wait, it finished quite a while ago.

The proposition that we "had a secret alliance or was a multi in a doodle game" is humerous to me. Me and gambler do not know eachother, however are in the same clan. If you feel it necessary you can block us from playing games together even though we have done nothing wrong.

I look forward to seeing how this turns out. AKA i cant wait to see what a fool you'll look

Bones2484 · Post by **Bones2484** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:00 pm

I didn't even realize either of you were in The Untouchables.

Now I feel dirty.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:05 pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

gambler is one of the most respected players I know and tom is just a spammer nothing more

Jeff Hardy · Post by **Jeff Hardy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:21 pm

cena-rules wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

gambler is one of the most respected players I know and tom is just a spammer nothing more

yet you still have "FREE T-O-M"in your sig...

xruan · Post by **xruan** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:32 pm

Um...these two are my clanmates and I know both of them VERY well. I know t-o-m more than a lot of people I know on this site, and I have talked to gambler's wife. These are DEFINITELY not multis and I dont think they'd ever form a secret alliance. I am not just saying this because they're in my clan.

Stroop · Post by **Stroop** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:41 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Stroop wrote: making secret diplomacy more likely...
I couldnt find a shred of proof that there was anything fishy in those 3 games. If you can do it, please feel free.

They have played 15 games together. The OP only posted the FFA ones in which t-o-m and/or gambler won the game.

In fact, they've played a total of 5 Assdoodles together (all of which appear to have been at the same time, there are a few players who appear in more than 2 of the 5) and have won 2 between them. Hardly fishy by any means.

Did you bother to read the whole post? I do not think they are cheating in any way. I just stated something I noticed.

e_i_pi · Post by **e_i_pi** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:09 pm

I think the OP is shooting blanks on this one, I highly doubt either of these players would require resorting to secret alliance for their points.

Bones2484 · Post by **Bones2484** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:19 pm

Stroop wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Stroop wrote: making secret diplomacy more likely...
I couldnt find a shred of proof that there was anything fishy in those 3 games. If you can do it, please feel free.

They have played 15 games together. The OP only posted the FFA ones in which t-o-m and/or gambler won the game.

In fact, they've played a total of 5 Assdoodles together (all of which appear to have been at the same time, there are a few players who appear in more than 2 of the 5) and have won 2 between them. Hardly fishy by any means.
Did you bother to read the whole post? I do not think they are cheating in any way. I just stated something I noticed.

I did read the whole post. But it's rather silly to leave open the possibility of cheating and then try to claim that you don't think they are cheating.

Be a man. Take a side.

/the above post is merely for fun. I really don't care!

Stroop · Post by **Stroop** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:27 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Stroop wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Stroop wrote: making secret diplomacy more likely...
I couldnt find a shred of proof that there was anything fishy in those 3 games. If you can do it, please feel free.

They have played 15 games together. The OP only posted the FFA ones in which t-o-m and/or gambler won the game.

In fact, they've played a total of 5 Assdoodles together (all of which appear to have been at the same time, there are a few players who appear in more than 2 of the 5) and have won 2 between them. Hardly fishy by any means.
Did you bother to read the whole post? I do not think they are cheating in any way. I just stated something I noticed.
I did read the whole post. But it's rather silly to leave open the possibility of cheating and then try to claim that you don't think they are cheating.

Be a man. Take a side.

I am a very just man. Regardless of what I believe, if the possibility of them cheating exists, anything that could imply it should be looked at.

Or, if you think it more manly, I'm just trying to help the OP and anyone else who believes gambler and tom cheat build up a stronger case so it's more fun to watch the hunters clear them.

I just can't decide, you pick

Bones2484 · Post by **Bones2484** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:36 pm

Stroop wrote: I just can't decide, you pick

Can I use a lifeline?

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:32 pm

I would agree I have looked at these games and their past games I think they had some sort of short term alliance, can a mod get their PMs? If a mod can go check and see if they talked about a alliance

king sam · Post by **king sam** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:44 pm

sailorseal wrote:I would agree I have looked at these games and their past games I think they had some sort of short term alliance, can a mod get their PMs? If a mod can go check and see if they talked about a alliance

sailor is wrong like 90% of the time so him choosing the side of them being guilty almost guarantees that they should be cleared soon.

Jeff Hardy · Post by **Jeff Hardy** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:45 pm

king sam wrote:
sailorseal wrote:I would agree I have looked at these games and their past games I think they had some sort of short term alliance, can a mod get their PMs? If a mod can go check and see if they talked about a alliance

sailor is wrong like 90% of the time so him choosing the side of them being guilty almost guarantees that they should be cleared soon.

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