Conquer Club = Fascist State?

[Limey Lyons]

Pointless, nobody listens...

[Vace Cooper]

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Im wondering if you created the 3rd bandwagon, or if you created on option for someone elce to make the 3rd bandwagon.

[Fruitcake]

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Im wondering if you created the 3rd bandwagon, or if you created on option for someone elce to make the 3rd bandwagon.

Or did PD create a bandwagon that isn't, in fact, a bandwagon. If this is so, did he really create that bandwagon? For if the bandwagon he didn't create is in fact a 3rd bandwagon, this being so as it is a bandwagon no one else had created to that point, then his bandwagon isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon.

Well done.

(That'll be a Political career for you then PD)

[Vace Cooper]

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Im wondering if you created the 3rd bandwagon, or if you created on option for someone elce to make the 3rd bandwagon.

Or did PD create a bandwagon that isn't, in fact, a bandwagon. If this is so, did he really create that bandwagon? For if the bandwagon he didn't create is in fact a 3rd bandwagon, this being so as it is a bandwagon no one else had created to that point, then his bandwagon isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon.

Well done.

(That'll be a Political career for you then PD)

So does this mean that the people on that bandwagon that isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon are people that arn't people that actually are people?

[Fruitcake]

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Im wondering if you created the 3rd bandwagon, or if you created on option for someone elce to make the 3rd bandwagon.

Or did PD create a bandwagon that isn't, in fact, a bandwagon. If this is so, did he really create that bandwagon? For if the bandwagon he didn't create is in fact a 3rd bandwagon, this being so as it is a bandwagon no one else had created to that point, then his bandwagon isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon.

Well done.

(That'll be a Political career for you then PD)

So does this mean that the people on that bandwagon that isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon are people that arn't people that actually are people?

Well first of all, one has to decide if the bandwagon PD proffered is in fact a bandwagon. I am not so sure seeing as this bandwagon was based upon no one actually joining the other bandwagons. So by default, if they did join the, still to be decided whether it qualifies or not, bandwagon, then it could be said they are not really joining a bandwagon at all. On the other hand if it can be argued that by not joining a bandwagon, they are, in fact, joining a bandwagon, that bandwagon being to not join any other bandwagon, then they fully qualify as joining a bandwagon. However, the question still remains is this actually a bandwagon?

A conundrum indeed.

[jbrettlip]

Solyent Green is made of bandwagons....or something like that.

[PLAYER57832]

I'll play the flute.

[Vace Cooper]

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Im wondering if you created the 3rd bandwagon, or if you created on option for someone elce to make the 3rd bandwagon.

Or did PD create a bandwagon that isn't, in fact, a bandwagon. If this is so, did he really create that bandwagon? For if the bandwagon he didn't create is in fact a 3rd bandwagon, this being so as it is a bandwagon no one else had created to that point, then his bandwagon isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon.

Well done.

(That'll be a Political career for you then PD)

So does this mean that the people on that bandwagon that isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon are people that arn't people that actually are people?

Well first of all, one has to decide if the bandwagon PD proffered is in fact a bandwagon. I am not so sure seeing as this bandwagon was based upon no one actually joining the other bandwagons. So by default, if they did join the, still to be decided whether it qualifies or not, bandwagon, then it could be said they are not really joining a bandwagon at all. On the other hand if it can be argued that by not joining a bandwagon, they are, in fact, joining a bandwagon, that bandwagon being to not join any other bandwagon, then they fully qualify as joining a bandwagon. However, the question still remains is this actually a bandwagon?

A conundrum indeed.

It's very clear that Im not the one that has to answer that question. Its to late for me to switch bandwagons anyway.

[Night Strike]

Limey recently rated me all 1s but was kind enough to warn all players in the game that he would be doing so. He stated that it was in protest of the rating system. While I don't agree with the rating itself, I do appreciate that the "1s across the board" philosophy is the only real protest available to him as not rating at all comes across more apathetic than revolutionary.

I say 1 away, Limey. Theres more than enough blind 5ers to make it irrelevant anyways.

And this right here is the issue as to why his ratings are unfair. They are not based on the game in question but rather on a blanket protest against the ratings. If you don't like the ratings system, then don't use it. It's not rocket science.

[jbrettlip]

Limey recently rated me all 1s but was kind enough to warn all players in the game that he would be doing so. He stated that it was in protest of the rating system. While I don't agree with the rating itself, I do appreciate that the "1s across the board" philosophy is the only real protest available to him as not rating at all comes across more apathetic than revolutionary.

I say 1 away, Limey. Theres more than enough blind 5ers to make it irrelevant anyways.

And this right here is the issue as to why his ratings are unfair. They are not based on the game in question but rather on a blanket protest against the ratings. If you don't like the ratings system, then don't use it. It's not rocket science.

But then how will he get his feedback medals?

[MeDeFe]

BANDWAGON THE FOURTH
Start rating everyone you play with 1 star yourself. Let's make 1 star the official average rating to strive for, then everyone will be happy because they're rated above average.

[Vace Cooper]

BANDWAGON THE FOURTH
Start rating everyone you play with 1 star yourself. Let's make 1 star the official average rating to strive for, then everyone will be happy because they're rated above average.

Did'nt you ever learn anything from the star belly sneech's!!

[Limey Lyons]

Night Strike,

The ratings i leave began in protest but now i find that they truly represent my opinion. My ratings are FAIR and JUST according to me. As they are MY ratings it is only MY opinion that matters.

All the best,

Limey Lyons

[Fruitcake]

Limey recently rated me all 1s but was kind enough to warn all players in the game that he would be doing so. He stated that it was in protest of the rating system. While I don't agree with the rating itself, I do appreciate that the "1s across the board" philosophy is the only real protest available to him as not rating at all comes across more apathetic than revolutionary.

I say 1 away, Limey. Theres more than enough blind 5ers to make it irrelevant anyways.

And this right here is the issue as to why his ratings are unfair. They are not based on the game in question but rather on a blanket protest against the ratings. If you don't like the ratings system, then don't use it. It's not rocket science.

Without wishing to seem disrespectful Night Strike, I disagree strongly with your view. There has been a great deal of, unheeded, discussion regarding the ratings. Many feel their views and opinions have been ignored by those who have the power to change things. Now while I am unable to see the logic behind the ratings, and rightly so after all I am unaware of the resources required in the old system, I will always fail to understand the logic behind the move from feedback.

If forms of protest are ignored, then members of any society will take proactive action in whatever way they can to try to make those who are not responding to them, respond. To use the argument that he should not use the ratings system because he does not like it is illogical and would actually seem to confirm the suspicion that those who could do something about it are just ignoring, and always have ignored, the protests.

You cannot introduce a system that is disliked by so many, then when someone takes practical action to register their dissatisfaction, tell them to stop because it does not fit with what you want. he is entitled to leave whatever ratings he wishes, it is not for any one to tell him otherwise, surely....

[yeti_c]

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Im wondering if you created the 3rd bandwagon, or if you created on option for someone elce to make the 3rd bandwagon.

Or did PD create a bandwagon that isn't, in fact, a bandwagon. If this is so, did he really create that bandwagon? For if the bandwagon he didn't create is in fact a 3rd bandwagon, this being so as it is a bandwagon no one else had created to that point, then his bandwagon isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon.

Well done.

(That'll be a Political career for you then PD)

So does this mean that the people on that bandwagon that isn't a bandwagon that actually is a bandwagon are people that arn't people that actually are people?

Well first of all, one has to decide if the bandwagon PD proffered is in fact a bandwagon. I am not so sure seeing as this bandwagon was based upon no one actually joining the other bandwagons. So by default, if they did join the, still to be decided whether it qualifies or not, bandwagon, then it could be said they are not really joining a bandwagon at all. On the other hand if it can be argued that by not joining a bandwagon, they are, in fact, joining a bandwagon, that bandwagon being to not join any other bandwagon, then they fully qualify as joining a bandwagon. However, the question still remains is this actually a bandwagon?

A conundrum indeed.

Surely joining a bandwagon that is not joining a bandwagon means that said bandwagon of non bandwagoners is indeed no bandwagon...

However if the bandwagon is ignoring this thread - then PD could almost certainly not join that bandwagon as he has steadfastly not ignored the thread and has indeed joined a fifth (it would've been fourth but MeDeFe created the fourth) bandwagon that is being on a bandwagon that is in no way related to this thread...

But being off topic - does that qualify as ignoring the thread? if so - then perhaps PD did in fact create the 3rd bangwagon... and therefore became the 3rd bangwagons trailblazer.

C.

[Vace Cooper]

Surely joining a bandwagon that is not joining a bandwagon means that said bandwagon of non bandwagoners is indeed no bandwagon...

However if the bandwagon is ignoring this thread - then PD could almost certainly not join that bandwagon as he has steadfastly not ignored the thread and has indeed joined a fifth (it would've been fourth but MeDeFe created the fourth) bandwagon that is being on a bandwagon that is in no way related to this thread...

But being off topic - does that qualify as ignoring the thread? if so - then perhaps PD did in fact create the 3rd bangwagon... and therefore became the 3rd bangwagons trailblazer.

C.

So, There ARE people on the 3rd bandwagon, we just dont know who they are... unless they pm us. wait! That would not be ignoring the thread! crap! If they read the thread, even if they didnt leave a responce, they did not ignore it, so they are not on the 3rd bandwagon. That mean's that the people on the 3rd bandwagon dont even know that they are on it!

[Fruitcake]

Surely joining a bandwagon that is not joining a bandwagon means that said bandwagon of non bandwagoners is indeed no bandwagon...

However if the bandwagon is ignoring this thread - then PD could almost certainly not join that bandwagon as he has steadfastly not ignored the thread and has indeed joined a fifth (it would've been fourth but MeDeFe created the fourth) bandwagon that is being on a bandwagon that is in no way related to this thread...

But being off topic - does that qualify as ignoring the thread? if so - then perhaps PD did in fact create the 3rd bangwagon... and therefore became the 3rd bangwagons trailblazer.

C.

So, There ARE people on the 3rd bandwagon, we just dont know who they are... unless they pm us. wait! That would not be ignoring the thread! crap! If they read the thread, even if they didnt leave a responce, they did not ignore it. That mean's that the people on the 3rd bandwagon dont even know that they are on it!

Ahh, an interesting supposition. However, it befalls me to show you the error of your logic. His bandwagon was a non creation. For if it had truly been a bandwagon, then others would have been seen jumping on board. As no one did this, to now, it can only be assumed that either this was not a bandwagon, or that anyone who did join was, in fact, nobody. So to summarise, only nobody could join this bandwagon, whichever one it was, I forget now, as it was specifically not created. In which case I suppose it could be said that anyone who joined was nobody and any one who didn’t join a bandwagon that wasn’t is somebody. PD was very clever and shrewd, I am not surprised, he has shown flashes of this shrewdness in the past, he did not create a bandwagon for nobody to jump on board.. Regarding being off topic, surely the topic is all about bandwagons, whether they exist or not. This particular bandwagon being the ratings bandwagon.

[Vace Cooper]

Surely joining a bandwagon that is not joining a bandwagon means that said bandwagon of non bandwagoners is indeed no bandwagon...

However if the bandwagon is ignoring this thread - then PD could almost certainly not join that bandwagon as he has steadfastly not ignored the thread and has indeed joined a fifth (it would've been fourth but MeDeFe created the fourth) bandwagon that is being on a bandwagon that is in no way related to this thread...

But being off topic - does that qualify as ignoring the thread? if so - then perhaps PD did in fact create the 3rd bangwagon... and therefore became the 3rd bangwagons trailblazer.

C.

So, There ARE people on the 3rd bandwagon, we just dont know who they are... unless they pm us. wait! That would not be ignoring the thread! crap! If they read the thread, even if they didnt leave a responce, they did not ignore it. That mean's that the people on the 3rd bandwagon dont even know that they are on it!

Ahh, an interesting supposition. However, it befalls me to show you the error of your logic. His bandwagon was a non creation. For if it had truly been a bandwagon, then others would have been seen jumping on board. As no one did this, to now, it can only be assumed that either this was not a bandwagon, or that anyone who did join was, in fact, nobody. So to summarise, only nobody could join this bandwagon, whichever one it was, I forget now, as it was specifically not created. In which case I suppose it could be said that anyone who joined was nobody and any one who didn’t join a bandwagon that wasn’t is somebody. PD was very clever and shrewd, I am not surprised, he has shown flashes of this shrewdness in the past, he did not create a bandwagon for nobody to jump on board.. Regarding being off topic, surely the topic is all about bandwagons, whether they exist or not. This particular bandwagon being the ratings bandwagon.

Ok, so maybe someone that once was somebody jumped on the bandwagon that doesnt exist. Then.. this bandwagon is not even a bandwagon at all. Its kind of like the feeling you get when you are walking down some stairs and you think there is one more stair at the bottom. NO!! that would be the feeling of mistakingly jumping on a existing bandwagon by accident! So then its obvious that it would actually feel like going UP some stairs and thinking their is one more step at the top and then falling on your face! SO!.. everyone on the 3rd bandwagon has a broken nose.

[Fruitcake]

Surely joining a bandwagon that is not joining a bandwagon means that said bandwagon of non bandwagoners is indeed no bandwagon...

However if the bandwagon is ignoring this thread - then PD could almost certainly not join that bandwagon as he has steadfastly not ignored the thread and has indeed joined a fifth (it would've been fourth but MeDeFe created the fourth) bandwagon that is being on a bandwagon that is in no way related to this thread...

But being off topic - does that qualify as ignoring the thread? if so - then perhaps PD did in fact create the 3rd bangwagon... and therefore became the 3rd bangwagons trailblazer.

C.

So, There ARE people on the 3rd bandwagon, we just dont know who they are... unless they pm us. wait! That would not be ignoring the thread! crap! If they read the thread, even if they didnt leave a responce, they did not ignore it. That mean's that the people on the 3rd bandwagon dont even know that they are on it!

Ahh, an interesting supposition. However, it befalls me to show you the error of your logic. His bandwagon was a non creation. For if it had truly been a bandwagon, then others would have been seen jumping on board. As no one did this, to now, it can only be assumed that either this was not a bandwagon, or that anyone who did join was, in fact, nobody. So to summarise, only nobody could join this bandwagon, whichever one it was, I forget now, as it was specifically not created. In which case I suppose it could be said that anyone who joined was nobody and any one who didn’t join a bandwagon that wasn’t is somebody. PD was very clever and shrewd, I am not surprised, he has shown flashes of this shrewdness in the past, he did not create a bandwagon for nobody to jump on board.. Regarding being off topic, surely the topic is all about bandwagons, whether they exist or not. This particular bandwagon being the ratings bandwagon.

Ok, so maybe someone that once was somebody jumped on the bandwagon that doesnt exist. Then.. this bandwagon is not even a bandwagon at all. Its kind of like the feeling you get when you are walking down some stairs and you think there is one more stair at the bottom. NO!! that would be the feeling of mistakingly jumping on a existing bandwagon by accident! So it would actually feel like going UP some stairs and thinking their is one more step at the top and then falling on your face! SO!.. everyone on the 3rd bandwagon has a broken nose.

Except that as there was no bandwagon joined by no one, then no one has a broken nose.

[Vace Cooper]

EXACTLY!, Im just saying that IF that nobody WAS somebody, THEN they would have a broken nose. Then they would be sucked into a black hole.

[Fruitcake]

EXACTLY!, Im just saying that IF that nobody WAS somebody, THEN they would have a broken nose. Then they would be sucked into a black hole.

But if nobody was somebody then surely nobody would have a broken nose, because somebody, who was in fact nobody, would not have a nose to break, because they were nobody. In fact anybody who was nobody would suffer the same dismal fate of not having a nose to break. The only noses that could be broken are those who are somebody and definitely not anybody who was nobody.

As for Black holes....are we talking back on topic here? if so, I agree.

[Vace Cooper]

EXACTLY!, Im just saying that IF that nobody WAS somebody, THEN they would have a broken nose. Then they would be sucked into a black hole.

But if nobody was somebody then surely nobody would have a broken nose, because somebody, who was in fact nobody, would not have a nose to break, because they were nobody. In fact anybody who was nobody would suffer the same dismal fate of not having a nose to break. The only noses that could be broken are those who are somebody and definitely not anybody who was nobody.

As for Black holes....are we talking back on topic here? if so, I agree.

I see your point... nobody has a broken nose on the 3rd bandwagon that doesnt exist, and it's their own damn fault!

[The Chosen]

It's not a plastic parrot.

[Nikolai]

And this right here is the issue as to why his ratings are unfair. They are not based on the game in question but rather on a blanket protest against the ratings. If you don't like the ratings system, then don't use it. It's not rocket science.

I would agree completely... except for the medals. CC is obviously structured to encourage people to leave ratings, even if they don't like the system. With that kind of setup, you can't be too upset when people leave ratings that don't necessarily seem reasonable/fair/just to you. The point of ratings is for them to say what they think.

[PepperJack]

Night Strike,

I understand your viewpoint but I find it to be too narrow. Limey's ratings (blanket, rationalized, or legit) are just a valid as the blind 5ers I referenced in my post. The difference is that 1s are abusive because they don't make people feel warm and fuzzy. Limey already argued in his original post that exact point.

If I was to file e-tickets for every other person that misusing the rating system by 5ing everyone, would it fall on deaf ears?

Furthermore, I was led to believe one of the reasons that this system was put in place was to not waste resources moderating it. Limey's warning seems to fly in the face of that.