Dancing Mustard Skittles Snorri Simon Viviant

[browng-08]

This was an example of four people having four accounts.

If I babysit your account while you go to Cancun, am I a multi? No, that's right. I'm not. You're a dipshit, though.

[GabonX]

NOBODY HAD MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS! THEY EACH HAD ONE ACCOUNT! NONE OF THEM HAD MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT!

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

THERE WERE NEVER MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT BELONGING TO THE SAME PERSON!

I'm not saying this is a conspiracy. I'm not accusing twill of purposely targeting people. I am simply objecting that the rules are being enforced in an inappropriate and unpredictable manner.

You're wrong. If two people share their accounts they both have two accounts, meaning they are both multis.

This was an example of four people having four accounts.

If I feed your dog one day, and I also own a dog, this does not mean I own two dogs. I am interacting with yours.

If a husband and wife have a regular home and a beach house they each have two houses.

[GabonX]

This was an example of four people having four accounts.

If I babysit your account while you go to Cancun, am I a multi? No, that's right. I'm not. You're a dipshit, though.

Actually it is against the rules if you don't get permission. There are rules and they do not conform to your understanding of them.

[InkL0sed]

If a gibbering madman makes no sense, we should ignore him.

Combo breaker?

[Frigidus]

NOBODY HAD MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS! THEY EACH HAD ONE ACCOUNT! NONE OF THEM HAD MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT!

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

THERE WERE NEVER MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT BELONGING TO THE SAME PERSON!

I'm not saying this is a conspiracy. I'm not accusing twill of purposely targeting people. I am simply objecting that the rules are being enforced in an inappropriate and unpredictable manner.

You're wrong. If two people share their accounts they both have two accounts, meaning they are both multis.

This was an example of four people having four accounts.

If I feed your dog one day, and I also own a dog, this does not mean I own two dogs. I am interacting with yours.

If a husband and wife have a regular home and a beach house they each have two houses.

If I spend a week at a friend's house, it doesn't become my house.

[browng-08]

This was an example of four people having four accounts.

If I babysit your account while you go to Cancun, am I a multi? No, that's right. I'm not. You're a dipshit, though.

Actually it is against the rules if you don't get permission. There are rules and they do not conform to your understanding of them.

Permission from whom? Oh, that's right! Permission from the owners. And where do you not see this happening?

[Ditocoaf]

NOBODY HAD MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS! THEY EACH HAD ONE ACCOUNT! NONE OF THEM HAD MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT!

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

THERE WERE NEVER MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT BELONGING TO THE SAME PERSON!

I'm not saying this is a conspiracy. I'm not accusing twill of purposely targeting people. I am simply objecting that the rules are being enforced in an inappropriate and unpredictable manner.

You're wrong. If two people share their accounts they both have two accounts, meaning they are both multis.

This was an example of four people having four accounts.

If I feed your dog one day, and I also own a dog, this does not mean I own two dogs. I am interacting with yours.

If a husband and wife have a regular home and a beach house they each have two houses.

Yes, because they own both houses jointly. The husband has partial ownership of both houses; so does the wife. Snorri never had any ownership of Simon Viviant's account (an account is owned by whoever made it, for one thing, and SV never gave the account to snorri. He just let snorri use it).

If I own a house, and you own a house, and I let you sleep in mine for a night or two, you do not own two houses.
If a husband and a wife are separated and each own a house individually, but the wife uses the husband's house for a week, she still owns only one house.

[PLAYER57832]

If a husband and a wife are separated and each own a house individually, but the wife uses the husband's house for a week, she still owns only one house.

No, they both would have to sell their houses to pay the lawyer fees.

[jonesthecurl]

If a husband and a wife are separated and each own a house individually, but the wife uses the husband's house for a week, she still owns only one house.

No, they both would have to sell their houses to pay the lawyer fees.

darn right. I just let my first wife have the bloody house. Fighting over it would hae cost us the house. We'd only just started paying the mortagae at the time anyhow, so I didn'y have but a few months' payments invested.

[jonesthecurl]

If a husband and a wife are separated and each own a house individually, but the wife uses the husband's house for a week, she still owns only one house.

No, they both would have to sell their houses to pay the lawyer fees.

darn right. I just let my first wife have the bloody house. Fighting over it would hae cost us the house. We'd only just started paying the mortagae at the time anyhow, so I didn'y have but a few months' payments invested.

Hey. d'ya think it might still be my house too?

[Ditocoaf]

If a husband and a wife are separated and each own a house individually, but the wife uses the husband's house for a week, she still owns only one house.

No, they both would have to sell their houses to pay the lawyer fees.

Nah, they're catholic and don't believe in divorce. They're just "separated," essentially married but ignoring eachother. No messy legal stuff.

And if they were to sell their houses, the husband couldn't sell his wife's house, because he only owns his.

[mpjh]

righteous indignation gives way to trolling

Superior, DM would love it.

[PLAYER57832]

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[Ditocoaf]

righteous indignation gives way to trolling

Superior, DM would love it.

No, I'm using a legitimate metaphor to explain my point. GabonX countered with another metaphor, and so I modified his metaphor to more closely fit the current situation. I have not trolled once in this thread. I'm not stupid.

Player and Jones, however, are acting that way. I wish they'd stop, so that this thread doesn't get locked.

[PLAYER57832]

righteous indignation gives way to trolling

Superior, DM would love it.

Sorry, did not mean to troll, just thought this thread could use a laugh... and yes, I am through.

[mpjh]

Ok, Ok, calm down. I was speaking of jones in particular. Hang in there, but best stay away from the metaphors, leave those to Pablo Naruda.

[PLAYER57832]

On a serious note, it could be that this should be spelled out a bit better in the rules. There seems to be a fine line between account sitting and this multis business.

[Ditocoaf]

On a serious note, it could be that this should be spelled out a bit better in the rules. There seems to be a fine line between account sitting and this multis business.

It depends on what you do with the other person's account: If you take someone else's turn, it's account sitting, unless you're doing it without their permission, in which case it's account stealing. If you post, it's equivalent to making yourself a second account. Apparently.

[Curmudgeonx]

On a serious note, it could be that this should be spelled out a bit better in the rules. There seems to be a fine line between account sitting and this multis business.

It depends on what you do with the other person's account: If you take someone else's turn, it's account sitting, unless you're doing it without their permission, in which case it's account stealing. If you post, it's equivalent to making yourself a second account. Apparently.

Puts a new light on Prowler's and Khaz's activities in Flame Wars a month or two ago . . . again inconsistent enforcement

[GabonX]

Frankly I don't care one way or the other whether or not these guys are banned. To me it seems pretty obvious that they did break the rules by having multis as having access to and using that access essentially means that they all had four accounts. If this kind of thing is allowed it becomes very difficult to regulate in game cheating. It also creates chaos on the boards.

It seems pretty obvious that the people who are defending these guys aren't doing it for any reason other than the fact that they like the people who got busted. If it were me who was in trouble they would all be silent right now.

[clapper011]

oh Frigidus, I know you dont like me much, but it has nothing to do with myself, or other mods. Admin has already commented, but that was not good enough for some of you. Don't make this about your hatred towards a certain mod, or moderators.

[hecter]

Max did get busted as well, one of his friends bought him premium again....

Max got a warning before he was busted.

[Frigidus]

On a serious note, it could be that this should be spelled out a bit better in the rules. There seems to be a fine line between account sitting and this multis business.

It depends on what you do with the other person's account: If you take someone else's turn, it's account sitting, unless you're doing it without their permission, in which case it's account stealing. If you post, it's equivalent to making yourself a second account. Apparently.

See, I might understand if they had created joke accounts or something, I guess that can loosely be described as trolling. Using an already existing account with the account owner's permission for posting purposes has never been a problem, to my knowledge. Can we see a single case that someone has been banned for that before now? Also, what sort of posts did they make with each others accounts? What were their motives?

[GabonX]

Also, all of these people who are complaining about "inconsistent enforcement" don't have a foot to stand on unless they reported the other incident. Just because it slipped under the radar doesn't mean a rule wan't broken...

[mpjh]

On a serious note, it could be that this should be spelled out a bit better in the rules. There seems to be a fine line between account sitting and this multis business.

It depends on what you do with the other person's account: If you take someone else's turn, it's account sitting, unless you're doing it without their permission, in which case it's account stealing. If you post, it's equivalent to making yourself a second account. Apparently.

Ok, I agree with you. I think that under the written rules, these guys were not multis. The question we have to ask is that when you babysit an account without identifying that fact are you abusing the forum? I think yes, but ii isn't written in the rules and seems a minor violation.