Not A Natural Born Citizen

[DaGip]

That's right, I said it...he's NOT a natural born citizen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Glyla5R7B8&NR=1

[GabonX]

Whether or not he was born in the states it's ridiculous that there isn't an official government organization that verifies these things...

[MeDeFe]

At least they've made a few good movies, I think I might rewatch Natural Born Killers one of these days.

[GabonX]

At least they've made a few good movies, I think I might rewatch Natural Born Killers one of these days.

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[HapSmo19]

Whether or not he was born in the states it's ridiculous that there isn't an official government organization that verifies these things...

Like the FBI?
You can't tell me that this is of no interest to their line of work. Fidelity, bravery, integrity is on the road to no longer apply to them.

[DaGip]

Whether or not he was born in the states it's ridiculous that there isn't an official government organization that verifies these things...

Like the FBI?
You can't tell me that this is of no interest to their line of work. Fidelity, bravery, integrity is on the road to no longer apply to them.

The meaning, integrity, and overall understanding of the Constitution is completely meaningless. By allowing Obama to be president, we might as well let Arnold Schwarzenegger be president then, and then just let somebody born in China come over here and become president. Let's just tear up that inconvenient piece of paper that some people call The Constitution and just let everybody in the whole friggin' world become the president of the United States of America!

[HapSmo19]

It is though, fun to imagine the FBI walking out on stage and cuffing him as he's being sworn in on January 20th.

[DaGip]

I guess Obama has to present a valid Birth Certificate to the Supreme Court by December 1st....Yeah, right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XomFP0jaEqA

[spurgistan]

I guess Obama has to present a valid Birth Certificate to the Supreme Court by December 1st....Yeah, right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XomFP0jaEqA

Clicked through to that video until I saw what other stuff the guys done. Nothing hateful per se, but not too far removed from it. Anyways, just for kicks, going on the assumption that these frivolous youtube videos are spot-on, and that Barack Obama II was born in Kenya to an American woman from Kansas and a Kenyan father who was studying in the United States at the time Obama was born, I really don't think this is "voter fraud", any more than what ACORN was doing was "voter fraud" (frankly, the only entity being defrauded in that pseudo-scandal was ACORN) as much as it is Obama stonewalling what is in reality a minor technicality to his being president.

Anyways, if Obama gets decertified (which isn't the job of the FBI, there's a chronically understaffed Federal Elections Commission which couldn't even decertify McCain for using public funding as collateral to accept a loan, which is illegal as well as being easily provable) I'm pretty sure we'd be swearing in President Biden and Vice President Pelosi. Which is definitely worse for you than the present ticket. Just sayin'.

[black elk speaks]

I guess Obama has to present a valid Birth Certificate to the Supreme Court by December 1st....Yeah, right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XomFP0jaEqA

Clicked through to that video until I saw what other stuff the guys done. Nothing hateful per se, but not too far removed from it. Anyways, just for kicks, going on the assumption that these frivolous youtube videos are spot-on, and that Barack Obama II was born in Kenya to an American woman from Kansas and a Kenyan father who was studying in the United States at the time Obama was born, I really don't think this is "voter fraud", any more than what ACORN was doing was "voter fraud" (frankly, the only entity being defrauded in that pseudo-scandal was ACORN) as much as it is Obama stonewalling what is in reality a minor technicality to his being president.

Anyways, if Obama gets decertified (which isn't the job of the FBI, there's a chronically understaffed Federal Elections Commission which couldn't even decertify McCain for using public funding as collateral to accept a loan, which is illegal as well as being easily provable) I'm pretty sure we'd be swearing in President Biden and Vice President Pelosi. Which is definitely worse for you than the present ticket. Just sayin'.

yeah, you are prolly right about that, but if he isn't qualified, then he should be dragged out of office and jailed for intentional fraud. I mean, seriously... why have your official records sealed and never actually produce the documents necessary to prove your innocence? Why wouldn't you want to vindicate yourself. I thought that lawyer made a sound case, or, at the very least, asked some reasonable questions. The fact that he is actually a Democrat himself leads me to find further credibility in his claims.

[StiffMittens]

enough already.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

[jonesthecurl]

he admitted he's from Krypton.

[StiffMittens]

he admitted he's from Krypton.

Which has been a US territory since 1948 (what's left of it, anyway). So too is the fortress of solitude.

[luns101]

I'm so glad Obama is going to be the target of DaGip for the next 4 years. We can have a vacation from NeoCon accusations.

[DaGip]

enough already.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqqkM1aW_N4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_VNgzps ... re=related

And this one is in seven parts, I will post the first part here for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39aHQP5rN5k

We, The American People, deserve a REAL official government document, not a fraudulent replica to cover Barack Hussein Obama's ass!

A REAL Birth Certificate showing that Obama was indeed born in and IS a natural born citizen of these United States of America. A Certificate of Live Birth is NOT a Birth Certificate.

[black elk speaks]

I think that he is the anti Christ. We will, as a nation, succumb to a serious depression, which he will save us from, but as a serious cost, our souls. He will be mortally wounded, a wound from which you will believe that he could not possibly survive, but he will miraculously recover. Watch for the signs.

[Dancing Mustard]

Don't worry Elk, here they are.

[PLAYER57832]

A REAL Birth Certificate showing that Obama was indeed born in and IS a natural born citizen of these United States of America. A Certificate of Live Birth is NOT a Birth Certificate.

Many, many people don't have the sort of birth certificate you demand of Barrach Obama, particularly those who were birthed at home.

But here is the deal. Do you SERIOUSLY think McCain and all his other opponents .. everyone in the Senate would have just sat idly by and let Barrach get elected to the Senate, never mind the Presidency, if he were not a natural born US citizen.

And ... if you really look at the state department classifications of citizenship, there are probably 15 differant categories.

[black elk speaks]

A REAL Birth Certificate showing that Obama was indeed born in and IS a natural born citizen of these United States of America. A Certificate of Live Birth is NOT a Birth Certificate.

Many, many people don't have the sort of birth certificate you demand of Barrach Obama, particularly those who were birthed at home.

But here is the deal. Do you SERIOUSLY think McCain and all his other opponents .. everyone in the Senate would have just sat idly by and let Barrach get elected to the Senate, never mind the Presidency, if he were not a natural born US citizen.

And ... if you really look at the state department classifications of citizenship, there are probably 15 differant categories.

there is only one classification of citizenship that qualifies you to be president and that is natural born citizen. I personally think that he should have to provide the fucking documentation... to the judge... as ordered by the court. Why not post your documents, not online where it was found to have been altered by adobe photoshop, but to the legal courts system so that our legal branch can further lend validity to his claim to the office of POTUS. If it were you that was President, would you make a motion to suppress your documentation, or what ever it was? Or would you, being the holder of the highest office in the land, wish to verify your proof to a certified legal official, a judge, the same documents that you "posted on your web site" for all too see. I think he is hiding something.

[jonesthecurl]

DaGip, what happened to your spaceship?

[black elk speaks]

DaGip, what happened to your spaceship?

Obama had it confiacated under the direction of the Office of the President Elect (no such office!)



DaGip's space ship is now the public property of the people of the socialist states of AmeriKa and will be featured this year at Wally World just around the bend from another new attraction, Butt-chin spelunking from Phili which includes a 50 foot drop into the face of a crevasse carved into the shape pf pimplydave.

[PLAYER57832]

I think that he is the anti Christ. We will, as a nation, succumb to a serious depression, which he will save us from, but as a serious cost, our souls. He will be mortally wounded, a wound from which you will believe that he could not possibly survive, but he will miraculously recover. Watch for the signs.

How is this sort of comment helpful to creating a better country/world?

I definitely dispute your assertion. Any parallels to the Bible are so broad as to be axiomatic, and would be true for anyone elected. Still, if you have anything specific, it would be at least more interesting to read.

So far, you have made broad accusations about increased taxes and widening the realm of government, plus claims of socialism, but few specifics.

[StiffMittens]

...where it was found to have been altered by adobe photoshop...

Okay, take any image file not created in Photoshop. Open it in Hexedit and notice that the word Photoshop does not appear anywhere in the header. Open that same image in Photoshop, make no alterations in any way and simply Save as... giving it a new name. Open the newly created file in Hexedit and note that although the image itself was not altered in any way, the header now shows that the image was created in Adobe Photoshop.

[StiffMittens]

Now as to this absence of crease marks red herring. Imagine this: I request a copy of my birth certificate from the state where I was born. They send it to me in a large envelope (so that it is not folded - have any of you ever received any sort of documents from a government institution? I have, and they always seem to come in 9 X 12 manila envelopes). I scan the document and post the picture on my website. Another website requests to see the actual document to verify it's authenticity. I fold it up, stick it in a business sized envelope and send it to them. They take a picture of the folded document and post it on their website. Thirty seconds later a host on tinfoil hatters start screaming "FRAUD!"

[StiffMittens]

And another thing...

Even World Net Daily concedes that:

WND also found on microfilm in the Honolulu downtown public library a notice published under the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" section of the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser for August 13, 1961, on page B-6, noting: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack II Obama. 6085 Kalanianaole-Hwy, son, Aug. 4."