dickied [Cleared]

[psteijn]

all of the responders who are supporting CPTMO are in "Black Sheep Squadron" aka the clan that CPTMO is in. Please take that into consideration when viewing their comments.

Accused:

dickied
CPTMO

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):

Game 4099553
Game 4079933


Comments:

Dickied jumped in as the last player in our 3v3 game before our third teammate could get into the game. Okay, no problem -- we set out a strategy in team chat and give him our armies in Australia first turn because he has a ridiculous drop and will hold all of both the phillipines and australia on turn 1. He ignores all team chat, does not take the the Australia regions and instead starts randomly placing his armies and attacking things. No response to team chat.

In the end we lose the game. He never says a thing in chat. I am a little suspicious, however I realize that he may just be a very new player and does not realize that there is a chat box or what "team game" means.

Today I do a bit of digging and see that Dickied has join another one of CPTMO's games and on Round 1 he has done nothing but attack two of his teammate's territories. Sure, you may say at this point "he was just consolidating a country bonus". Nope; these territories were not part of any country bonus (gray color on World 2.1). At this point I know that dickied is guilty of 1) being a multi of CPTMO to help him win team games, or 2) of not knowing that he is in team games. Is there any action that you can take against a player who joins team games and ruins them for his/her teammates? There is no way to veto a teammate, so really you are stuck with a teammate even if he is a griefer.

Thanks,
~psteijn

[millertime13]

I was in that game, and know CPTMO does not employ multi's...if every bad player was reported for being a dumbass, C&A would clog the server. Ignore/Foe list the bad ones. This is what I miss about the old feedback system, one or two sentences that sum up the opponents skill and/or lack of.

[SirSebstar]

he (EDIT read: dickied) should be warned none the less

[CPTMO]

You guys are kidding right. I do not employ multis. I don't even know who dickied is. Careful what you say that you KNOW. As you obviously KNOW nothing. I would say that you need to be careful who you join team games with if you don't like the way your own partners play.

CPTMO

[bbqpenguin]

i've played a game or two with this dickied fellow and i feel obligated to say that the guy's a complete idiot and doesn't know what he's doing. the fact that he's attacking his teamates is a result of his stupidity, not that he's a multi. also, cptmo doesn't need to cheat to win!

[stahrgazer]

Accused:

dickied
CPTMO

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):

Game 4099553
Game 4079933


Comments:

Dickied jumped in as the last player in our 3v3 game before our third teammate could get into the game. Okay, no problem -- we set out a strategy in team chat and give him our armies in Australia first turn because he has a ridiculous drop and will hold all of both the phillipines and australia on turn 1. He ignores all team chat, does not take the the Australia regions and instead starts randomly placing his armies and attacking things. No response to team chat.

In the end we lose the game. He never says a thing in chat. I am a little suspicious, however I realize that he may just be a very new player and does not realize that there is a chat box or what "team game" means.

Today I do a bit of digging and see that Dickied has join another one of CPTMO's games and on Round 1 he has done nothing but attack two of his teammate's territories. Sure, you may say at this point "he was just consolidating a country bonus". Nope; these territories were not part of any country bonus (gray color on World 2.1). At this point I know that dickied is guilty of 1) being a multi of CPTMO to help him win team games, or 2) of not knowing that he is in team games. Is there any action that you can take against a player who joins team games and ruins them for his/her teammates? There is no way to veto a teammate, so really you are stuck with a teammate even if he is a griefer.

Thanks,
~psteijn

Let me get this straight: your "proof" that this dickied fellow is a multi with CPTMO is that he joined two of CPTMO's games? In that case, I must be mult with hundreds. Hmm.. I think I've played a game or three with CPTMO, so I must be another of CPTMO's multis. Give me a break!

I am sorry for your misfortune at having picked the one and only uncooperative or non-team player, or mistake-maker, among the thousands who are on CC. (Sarcasm intended; we've all had the misfortune of not gelling well with our teammates at some time or other.)

I don't know dickied; if I've played with him, I don't recall it. I do know that I've messed up in team games; sometimes it works out anyway, sometimes it doesn't. I've played with other players, respectable players of good rank and ratings, who've also messed up my team games. We bash each other in laughter and get on with it; sometimes we win despite goof-ups.

Maybe dickied is just one of those with what I call "itchy trigger" finger; can't help but watching his armies crush, kill, destroy. Let me ask you: Before you created this absurd post with its even more absurd accusation of CPTMO: Did you first try pm'g dickied and explaining the difference between a team game and a terminator game? I did that with one relatively new and thus, stupid-acting person, and that person has become a pretty good player now.

Actions you can take are: 1) foe the dudes you don't want to play with and 2) make/join only private games in future. Action 1 ensures you don't join more games with people you know either mess up or are messed up; Action 2 gives you a much better chance of picking and choosing who you're playing with and against.

The action you took: accusing a respectable fellow like CPTMO of being a multi because in your opinion, someone messed up a game, then that same someone joined another game and wow, the messup messed up another game, too, makes me want to put YOU on a foelist.

[hiddendragon]

he should be warned none the less

Is this for real? CPT is good enough to not need to make multis or do anything foul to win.
This thread is another witch-hunt created by some player that has trouble accepting losing. I believe this accusation is nothing but a farce.

Looking at the games goes to show why newer players should be wary about whon they challenge. They had two of my clans best triples players on a map they know very well. The outcome of those games was never in doubt

[SirSebstar]

read the edit part. I did not consider CPTM a likely culprit, I am sorry if you did.

[Dominator7]

CPTMO - a cheater?????

You gotta be on something man, that is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!

You owe CPTMO an apology.

[calkid]

i say not a multi. i read the whole log. i didn't even bother reading the log in the game you didn't play in. true, he didn't chat, but nobody else did either. true, he attacked teamates but was doing so to gain and hold a territory. i also saw that he did a heck of a lot of damage to the other team.

i think you need to step back and think before you start accusing someone. especially a high ranked player who's reputation you can ruin just by a simple accusation. you lost. accept it and move on. whether dickied is a bad player is irrelevant. i think you owe both players an appology both publically in this forum thread and privately.

i wouldn't waste the mods time researching this unfair accusation!

[psteijn]

all of the responders who are supporting CPTMO are in "Black Sheep Squadron" aka the clan that CPTMO is in. Please take that into consideration when viewing their comments.

Thank you CPTMO for responding, you have very solid play and I meant no disrespect - only that it was one of the possible explanations for dickied's behavior. We did try to interact several times with dickied in team chat with no response -- unfortunately I don't believe that you all can see that part of chat even post-game, no?

What is the functionality of the "Foe" feature? Will it cause dickied to no longer be able to join my games?

Thanks,
~psteijn

PS - I am still waiting on an admin to give final say in this.

[hiddendragon]

all of the responders who are supporting CPTMO are in "Black Sheep Squadron" aka the clan that CPTMO is in. Please ignore their comments.

Thank you CPTMO for responding, you have very solid play and I meant no disrespect - only that it was one of the possible explanations for dickied's behavior. We did try to interact several times with dickied in team chat with no response -- unfortunately I don't believe that you all can see that part of chat even post-game, no?

What is the functionality of the "Foe" feature? Will it cause dickied to no longer be able to join my games?

Thanks,
~psteijn

PS - I am still waiting on an admin to give final say in this.

Us backing him up should be proof enough that he doesn't need to cheat or farm. CPT has many friends both within our clan and outside of it. With such wonderful parnters why should he cheat?

[Darwins_Bane]

What is the functionality of the "Foe" feature? Will it cause dickied to no longer be able to join my games?

The Foe feature means that anyone on it cannot post on your wall, you cannot see any posts or game chat by them, and they cannot join any games you create. There is a setting in your inbox to block pm's as well.

PS - I am still waiting on an admin to give final say in this.

Also, about this, you may or may not get a ruling immediately, and the mods will be the ones to respond most likely. You just need to give it some time.

[millertime13]

Foe listing a player will prevent them from joining games you are in, also you will block their chat, so if they say something in the game chat you wont see it, but everyone else will.

Its unfortunate you got stuck with a loser for a partner, but you must understand the reaction from the people who know him well. He is a solid guy and not a cheater.

[psteijn]

I'm sure that the admins will agree that CPTMO is not at fault here as long as they don't have anything suspicious like the same IP subnet. Since we cannot see this information, we must let them do that part of due diligence.

I have modified the last part of my bolded statement.

[Mageplunka69]

i dont know anything except he is no cheater, but look what happened to me , when they all said i wasnt either....lol

[stahrgazer]

all of the responders who are supporting CPTMO are in "Black Sheep Squadron" aka the clan that CPTMO is in. Please take that into consideration when viewing their comments.

Lying is uncalled for. Neither Calkid nor SirSebstar are in the Black Sheep, which means 2 of 5 replies you got, are not Black Sheep.

This additional comment offends me in that it implies I'd lie for a clanmate. Heck, I've foed clanmates for being asses (after first explaining carefully to them and our leaders just how they acted like asses). My initial response to your thread here was thoughtful, considered, and complete; your response here shows me you weren't worth the effort. The fact that you did not even understand what a foelist is, shows me how thoughtful and considered your statements are (not), as well.

Hopefully your momma will bitchslap some sense into you at some point; if your mouth is swollen, you might not use it so carelessly next time.

[scorpion86]

Youve played 75 games and you wonder if if teammate might be a newb. You say he " jumped in at the last minute" there was only one slot open. youve played one game against CPTMO, weve teamed up in over 200 games, long before we joined the Black Sheep. Just play the game and quit crying.

[Landain]

This is absurd. I've been playing on Conquer Club for almost 2 years and have teamed up with or played against CPTMO on several occasions. I know personally that CPTMO is an honorable man and would never violate the rules of the game. Besides the fact that it is against his moral code it is also an idea that only an immature individual would consider. CPTMO is a retired US Army Officer and would never do anything of the sort. Whoever is making this claim is obviously both immature and upset because CPTMO beat him in a game. He beat him, because CPTMO is that good.

I am no member of any guild on CC. I only play to have fun. I enjoy playing the game. I don't care if I win or lose. I've been playing this game for almost 35 years. It is still enjoyable and the many diverse maps that come out are equally interesting.

I would assume that the moderators of the game can identify which IP Addresses are being used when the two identities are played and drop this silly accusation ASAP.

[owenshooter]

ridiculous... i've had the pleasure of tangling with CPTMO on a few occasions, and he isn't a cheat. you are just a very bitter and sore loser. people jump games all the time, that is part of the reason the new "join team 1" and "join team 2" options are now available. you got a bad player in on your team, and you guys couldn't figure out how to get him under control. sucks when it happens, but it does. however, it doesn't give you the right to run around and call a very honest and well respected player a cheater. you owe him an apology, and i hope you make it public.-0

[TheBro]

Everyone needs to chill out.


psteijn has every right to accuse CPTMO, as the games appear at least a little suspicious. (As in we can all agree dick is a retard) Stop flaming psteijn ffs, CPTMO is clearly not a cheater, so a mod will clear him soon enough. psteijn hasn't done anything wrong, and is at the very least attempting to enforce CC justice. Please stop posting more 'CPTMO is not a cheater testimonies,' those don't prove anything, and we get it.

[thezepman]

(As in we can all agree dick is a retard)

i like to call him richy aka richard

[owenshooter]

Everyone needs to chill out.


psteijn has every right to accuse CPTMO, as the games appear at least a little suspicious. (As in we can all agree dick is a retard) Stop flaming psteijn ffs, CPTMO is clearly not a cheater, so a mod will clear him soon enough. psteijn hasn't done anything wrong, and is at the very least attempting to enforce CC justice. Please stop posting more 'CPTMO is not a cheater testimonies,' those don't prove anything, and we get it.

did i mention that CPTMO is not a cheater?-0

[stahrgazer]

Everyone needs to chill out.


psteijn has every right to accuse CPTMO, as the games appear at least a little suspicious. (As in we can all agree dick is a retard) Stop flaming psteijn ffs, CPTMO is clearly not a cheater, so a mod will clear him soon enough. psteijn hasn't done anything wrong, and is at the very least attempting to enforce CC justice. Please stop posting more 'CPTMO is not a cheater testimonies,' those don't prove anything, and we get it.

Actually, too many false accusations is also against CC rules. As indicated, my initial response was thorough, and didn't flame. That response was met with an implication that I, as a Black Sheep member, might lie in defense of another clanmember.. to me, that's a bit of a flame and TOTALLY uncalled for, TOTALLY indefensible.

As a general majority here is saying: Just because a player on CC might not be too shrewd is no reason to accuse a shrewd and honorable player of cheating with a dummy as a multi, and for stein to have done that, plus imply that clanmembers would lie to protect someone who has multis (which CPTMO does not!) is... tacky and poor sportsmanship at the least.

But again, I guess I shouldn't expect more of a CC member who doesn't understand what the Foe List does.

[Kotaro]

haha

A BSS playing against his teammates, and not listening to game chat? Ignoring all probable strategy? Handing the game to the other team?

Surely, you must be mistaken.