France [Quenched]

VDB · Post by **VDB** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:53 am

patnprivate wrote:I am very impress to see someone putting so much time to have a French Map that I will play as soon as it will get out.

I have just some minor comments, if you are going for geographical names spelled in French :

Pyranées is wrong it is Pyrénées,
Lozierre idem, it is Lozère,
Alps is Alpes,
Bas Rein and Haut Rein are Bas Rhin and Haut Rhin,
Some is Somme,
Loire Atlantic is Loire Atlantique,
and Cote du Nord is Cote D'Armor.

I hope that I am not repeating other messages, I had not the courage to go through the 19 pages and maybe other French people could see if I forgot something.

I have already made most of those comments. It would in fact be nice to see all names correctly spelled.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:55 pm

VDB wrote:
patnprivate wrote:I am very impress to see someone putting so much time to have a French Map that I will play as soon as it will get out.

I have just some minor comments, if you are going for geographical names spelled in French :

Pyranées is wrong it is Pyrénées,
Lozierre idem, it is Lozère,
Alps is Alpes,
Bas Rein and Haut Rein are Bas Rhin and Haut Rhin,
Some is Somme,
Loire Atlantic is Loire Atlantique,
and Cote du Nord is Cote D'Armor.

I hope that I am not repeating other messages, I had not the courage to go through the 19 pages and maybe other French people could see if I forgot something.
I have already made most of those comments. It would in fact be nice to see all names correctly spelled.

Lucky you guys.. no one has noticed where I tried to mimick the effect and so it looks like I can do text after all... so the names will be fixed.

patnprivate · Post by **patnprivate** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:07 pm

You are the best Kyle.

The funny part was that "Rein" means kidney in French.

PS : I don' care if Corsica in not on the map, let's wipe them off.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:08 pm

I'm counting french votes as 5 regarding the corsica issue.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:31 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:I'm counting french votes as 5 regarding the corsica issue.

Just put up a poll mate!

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:05 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:I'm just going to go with it, in the end map maker knows best, if this was brought up earlier I probably would have considered it, but at this point its just impractical, and the corsicans really dont want to be part of france and i'm not a fan of imperialism.

Don't think Corsica needs to be considered. You're right in saying that its too late in the game and I don't think its a huge issue anyway (unless you're a French or Corsican pedant)

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:56 pm

Guiscard wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:I'm just going to go with it, in the end map maker knows best, if this was brought up earlier I probably would have considered it, but at this point its just impractical, and the corsicans really dont want to be part of france and i'm not a fan of imperialism.
Don't think Corsica needs to be considered. You're right in saying that its too late in the game and I don't think its a huge issue anyway (unless you're a French or Corsican pedant)

Still if the Reverend put up a poll we would know what other people think. Come on Kyle put up a poll. I want Corsica! Vive la France, vive la republique!

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:23 pm

I think people will vote for Corsica if it's just YAY, or NAY, but if they realise the map has progressed this far without it and that it makes the map far more difficult to construct, they'll say no.

I think a survey of opinions in the thread should be sufficient, too many people vote in polls without having read much about the map.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:51 pm

I think the reasoning for not including Corsica is funny; maybe you shouldn't include either Britanny, Pays Basque, and Paris too (they're really out of it)

The majority of corsicans are realist I think, only an extremist fraction really wants independance. A sure sign of it is that they are far from leading on the regional assembly ^^
Anyway it's not very important especially if it causes playability issues =)

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:59 pm

The point is that it is impractical at this point.

And it seems to me that there are a strong enough group still agreeing with me on it that it is to the point of where I'm pretty strong in that decision.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:12 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:The point is that it is impractical at this point.

And it seems to me that there are a strong enough group still agreeing with me on it that it is to the point of where I'm pretty strong in that decision.

I wish I had told you earlier. Out of curiosity why did you decide not to include Corsica in the first place?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:13 pm

Maybe this is 'Continental France' ... :-\

--Andy

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:13 pm

Even had it been said earlier, Cosica is not very practical when trying to make the map. It elongates it significantly.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:22 pm

qeee1 wrote:Even had it been said earlier, Cosica is not very practical when trying to make the map. It elongates it significantly.

Excuse me qeee1 but I disagree. Perhaps it could have been slightly rotated like the Italy map to accommodate Corsica. Anyway it doesn't matter any more now...

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:33 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
qeee1 wrote:Even had it been said earlier, Cosica is not very practical when trying to make the map. It elongates it significantly.
Excuse me qeee1 but I disagree. Perhaps it could have been slightly rotated like the Italy map to accommodate Corsica. Anyway it doesn't matter any more now...

it could be accomodated yes, but not very practical. Anyway this is pointless... let's get back to the actual map:

GET ON WITH IT, rev.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:27 pm

The only practical way to still get it in the map...would be to add it as an inset, similar to what USApoc did with Hawaii and Alaska.

--Andy

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:31 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:The only practical way to still get it in the map...would be to add it as an inset, similar to what USApoc did with Hawaii and Alaska.

--Andy

Yes, I think that could be done without going into too much reworking of the map.

cdman · Post by **cdman** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:44 pm

great map! when are you going to post it?

DarkTrader · Post by **DarkTrader** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:18 am

I am kinda surprised by the map. The different areas choosen makes me feel like i should learn again my geography.

Just a few points :
- south east region should be called Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur. I donno what country you're from, but this would be something like calling states from vermont to north carolina "Apalaches Mountains". Quite intersting, isn't it?
- Paris is way to big. Paris has a small surface.
- as for the name of the different areas, if there are too many french "departments" (around 80), regrouping 2 or 3 departements under the name of only one is a total abuse.

Look here :
http://www.peugeot.fr/concessions/image ... france.gif

Each french region has a single color, and each region has several "departments"

I would use for example Cote d'Azur instead of Var. Would be more accurate.

Same accuracy problem with montains and rivers.

At last : lot of mispelling

Sorry, I know this is quite difficult, but my post is here to make things move forward.

Anyway, remain @ your disposal if you need some help.

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:30 pm

i think that it is not totally accuerate so gameplay is better but if it the accuracy is important then of course it should be changed but imo it is fine

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:40 pm

DarkTrader wrote: - as for the name of the different areas, if there are too many french "departments" (around 80), regrouping 2 or 3 departements under the name of only one is a total abuse.

I totally disagree. Nearly every single map available on CC that portrays a real place does this. I really doubt that Washingtonians become enraged and feel abused that on the North America map their state is just called Oregon.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:45 pm

btownmeggy wrote:
DarkTrader wrote: - as for the name of the different areas, if there are too many french "departments" (around 80), regrouping 2 or 3 departements under the name of only one is a total abuse.
I totally disagree. Nearly every single map available on CC that portrays a real place does this. I really doubt that Washingtonians become enraged and feel abused that on the North America map their state is just called Oregon.

Actually there was 93, and I originally had all of them, people said to merge countries.

DarkTrader · Post by **DarkTrader** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:21 pm

Well, I really think you can find more accuratesnames, like northern alps, Jura montains...

I am not shocked by the names given... but it could get better by changing the names.

Have no time for this atm, but if you'd like to, I'll work on it.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:51 pm

DarkTrader wrote:Well, I really think you can find more accuratesnames, like northern alps, Jura montains...

I am not shocked by the names given... but it could get better by changing the names.

Have no time for this atm, but if you'd like to, I'll work on it.

Besides the spelling errs... no name changing will take place.. I got the names from a map of all 92 of their postal districts and IMO are fine.

gavin_sidhu · Post by **gavin_sidhu** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:09 am

Lol, the map looks exactly as it looked last time i checked (about a month ago), except this time uve got 20 pages of comments, gj.