***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:59 pm

I believe that Machiavelli or Xenhu was who killed Dussle or Cram. The whole "Memorial Hospital Event Unlocked during the Night" tells me that something happened in the Hospital last night, that got one of those 2 killed.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:12 pm

Master Bush wrote:The whole "Memorial Hospital Event Unlocked during the Night" tells me that something happened in the Hospital last night, that got one of those 2 killed.

That makes no sense. I believe this unlocked event to be similar to an unlocked role.

trestain · Post by **trestain** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:18 pm

wicked wrote:
Memorial Hospital Event Unlocked.
What does this mean?

I second this?

i did think though what if AK was just linking himself with Rev to either so he had a rock solid story if Rev got hanged. Or waste a day hanging Rev if we got AK.

going to read through Crams and Dussles posts in the morning will post again then.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:21 pm

another question... if IC was mafia, why did he need to be a mason to talk at night?

trestain · Post by **trestain** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:24 pm

wicked wrote:another question... if IC was mafia, why did he need to be a mason to talk at night?

you mean to Reverend Kyle here right?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:26 pm

I'm just wondering b/c I've never heard of a mafia being a mason before. Anyone experienced with this?

Also very curious to hear what RK has to say.

trestain · Post by **trestain** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:31 pm

i also believe that master bush has done nothing but lobby for someone to be lynched since the very start, going to look a bit closer at that aswell.

dagreatbroomhead · Post by **dagreatbroomhead** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:35 pm

The hospital event probably means something happened, like a virus outbreak, or a cure found. Those are just the extremes. I remember reading an article on events, let’s see if I can dig that up.

Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)
So what’s up? How’s it going? What happened?

Lets be frank, and don’t take this the wrong way, one of you needs to die to find out what happened. This could be good (if you were infected) or bad (if you both just became docs) but there is no way anyone can believe you unless one of you dies… sorry. I think for now, we need to let you live.

2 deaths from night 3?
Heres my theory. So night 0 we had someone turned into CHI 2. Night 1 we had another making a total of 2 infected and one person was killed(by night 0 infected) and today we have 3 infecteds and 2 deaths from the last two infecteds. Makes me think that a lot of people are power roles, townie power roles I mean. And who ever they are, I think they should stop sitting on their power, even if they don’t know what it means.

I think the two faced role means that he didn’t know he was infected, or by my thoughts, he knew he was, but also got a town role, the ultimate role ever! Both town and mafia! Basically if I had to guess, he would win with both the town or the mafia if he lived.

My opinions about who needs to die later. First we need to clear up the questions. If anyone thinks I am wrong, let me know or if they have more things to discuss.

P.S. i have heard several people (or the same people saying it over and over) that i havn't been active. i only can check this once a day, not post 50 posts a day. and if you look back, i should have one post a day, sometimes more, and they all are detailed.

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:47 pm

the void, the cold....my relatives are all here...and 72 virgins...death is absolute....i am one with the universe...avenge me, town...

i'll shut up now...

trestain · Post by **trestain** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:01 pm

dagreatbroomhead wrote:
1,

Lets be frank, and don’t take this the wrong way, one of you needs to die to find out what happened. This could be good (if you were infected) or bad (if you both just became docs) but there is no way anyone can believe you unless one of you dies… sorry. I think for now, we need to let you live.

2,

I think the two faced role means that he didn’t know he was infected, or by my thoughts, he knew he was, but also got a town role, the ultimate role ever! Both town and mafia! Basically if I had to guess, he would win with both the town or the mafia if he lived.

1, I don't get what you mean here, in the same paragraph you say we definately need to kill one of them and also that we need to let them live.
which is it then?

2, I like this i think if true then it it could mean that there is 4 mafia ,which i think there might be with the extra players in this game

dagreatbroomhead · Post by **dagreatbroomhead** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:14 pm

let the, live but don't trust them till one of them dies. i am saying that unless they come out and say they have more info, we treat them like anyone else, if we kill one, we kill one, but for reasons that we think they are mafia or not.

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:36 pm

So I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has no idea what is going on now. Maybe when Mach or xenu come online they can shed some light on the hospital event. Seems Andy has many twists this game.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:43 pm

I dont have time for this tonight, I'll try to get on for awile tomorrow.

2 quick things. 1 The two faced thing means that AK was mafia but rev didnt know it.

AndyDufresne wrote:**P.S. a Two-Face is a Mafia Mason who may not be who says he is.**

And I didnt recieve any info on an unlocked hospital event, I'm guessign it happened cause our doc died though.

Dont even think about lynching for a day or so, I missed the last day, I dont want to miss this one

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:49 pm

Whoa....

BAH!!!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:21 pm

Let's not be so close-minded to think the hospital event HAS to involve solely people at the hospital. Sure, it's a logical assumption, but let's keep all options open. That might be TOO obvious, ya know?

I'm sure we want to hear everyone's theories on this before we even start to think about who to lynch.

Other possible "events".... someone obtained the power to innoculate? A new vaccine was found? Obviously, if it's anything along those lines, we need to protect the people(s) who may have unlocked a role. It stands to reason since this role/event was unlocked when the doc was killed, that it's a positive thing for us townies.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:41 pm

Well I actually had time for one more post but I have to study after this

I think that this is how the game is going down. People with CHI-2 are mafia. No one in this game has CHI-1. The CHI-2 people, being mafia, do not infect at night, they kill. I recall reading earlier that the CHI-2 virus made people violent at night. This would explain why people's bodies have been tuning up mangled. The reason for the no night one was probably a lucky doc guess (it happens) and the reason for two kills last night was a vigilante. If you think about it, both dussle and cram looked a bit suspicious, and I would not be surprised if the vig killed supercram, thinking he was mafia.

Also, at the end of yesterday, I was sure that Wicked was mafia, but now my suspicions have faded for some reason. Looking back at my notes to myself makes me uncertain because your first instinct is often right, and my first instinct said AK and Wicked were mafia.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:03 pm

trestain wrote:i also believe that master bush has done nothing but lobby for someone to be lynched since the very start, going to look a bit closer at that aswell.

Very true.

Here's a list of who I have lobbied for the most:

Autoload - I voted for, he was lynched, he was the COP

AK - I voted for, he was lynched, he was MAFIA

I believe AK's role was mafia/mason, where he was in the mafia, but had a townie as a mason, as a "Two-face" that would help keep AK from getting lynched, because he truely believed AK was a townie. That clears Kyle of being a Mafia in my mind, and is now someone I truely trust.

Now I will enlighten you guys are my secret role. It was the main reason why I didn't trust AK and Rev of being masons, and it's because I am a MASON. Myself and cram are sisters. When I first got into town, I lost my son in the rush of a crazy mob. Cram found my son, and we have been talking through radios. So when Rev and AK come out claiming to be masons we didn't believe them. But then a few pages later, they posted about talking to each other via radios, just like me and Cram. So that made us think that Andy put 2 sets of mason in the game. That's what lead us to changing out votes from AK to Autoload. We were wrong, cause autoload was infact the COP, and we now knew that AK was infact mafia, and those 2 just guessed at the radio thing. And we were right, about the Mafia role anyway. They did use radios to talk, but he was a two-faced mafia/mason, which is why.

All mafia members need to know each other. If they dont, they cant come together on a vote to kill. So there's no way me and AK are two-face mafia/mason. By exposing Autoload as either a COP or Mafia, we/I was either clearing AK's name or exposing him as Mafia.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:08 pm

Just find the people who voted for autoload, but then didn't vote for AK the next day. They are your mafia Or take away all players who didn't vote for autoload and then did vote for AK and take them away from being mafia.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:15 pm

People who voted for AK last round:

Wicked, Xenhu, Supercram, Freetymes, Dussle, Broomhead, Master Bush, HoussamTheGreat

People who didn't vote for AK last round:

Bogusbet, Machiavelli, Moz, Rev Kyle, Trestain

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:20 pm

Who voted for autoload the first day:

Master Bush, Reverend_kyle, Freetymes, Bogusbet, Supercram, AK_iceman, Backglass, Trestain, Dussle

Mach & Wicked voted for AK at the end of day 1

Moz didn't vote at all that first day 1

With that, I believe that Bogusbet & Trestain are both Mafia. With Moz being the 4th Mafia member if there is a 4th.

AK Iceman - Hospital
Bogusbet - Generator Complex
Trestain - Broadcast Towers

Leaving some people's theory, including mine, that each place has a Mafia member.

VOTE TRESTAIN

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:25 pm

Master Bush wrote:I believe AK's role was mafia/mason, where he was in the mafia, but had a townie as a mason, as a "Two-face" that would help keep AK from getting lynched, because he truely believed AK was a townie. That clears Kyle of being a Mafia in my mind, and is now someone I truely trust.

While I agree that may be a possibility, I don't think we can completely clear anyone at this point.

Yes, I had figured out you two were masons, b/c of the same last name, and that's what made me start doubting IC. I wonder if it's possible two have IC-like roles, which would make you mafia? Just thinking outside the box here, looking at all the possibilities. I'm not pointing "FOS's" or votes or anything.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:26 pm

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Shit sorry guys. I added my Trestain vote at the end.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:26 pm

MB, keep in mind not everyone could get on last time to vote, since it was done so quickly.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:28 pm

wicked wrote:MB, keep in mind not everyone could get on last time to vote, since it was done so quickly.

But if you do the numbers, you can take away player who are not mafia by who they did vote for, then didn't vote for or vice verses.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:33 pm

While I think that may be true under normal circumstances, we had a VERY quick vote (I'll go back and check the times), so doesn't seem fair to punish the people across the pond. I'm not defending anyone, just pointing that out.

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