War of the Triple Cult (Day 6)

[william18]

I'll investigate spiesr.

[spiesr]

So, do people think we should go forward with a derfderf lynch, or that we should look for a new target?

Also, assuming he can indeed see all the members and roles of the cult that attempts to recruit him, don't you think it'd be an overkill? I mean the cult unlucky enough to recruit him would be destroyed basically. Seems kind of unbalanced.

Yeah, that is kinda what I thought. I guess that it might be limited somewhat by the fact the the info goes to his new cult and they can't just blatantly announce how they got it without giving them selves away a bit. So they might have to night kill the other cult which would take a few nights.

[Suspect101]

can we get some prods?

[spiesr]

Yeah, I am still not completely sure about the derfderf lynch; the case against LSU doesn't seem that substantial yet but we could look into it if you want. Not sure what we would get out of it though as he has already claimed to be vanilla. We could lynch him if we think he is lying but that is about it.

[derfderf34]

I can't disagree with you there, sir. I just don't have a a strong enough conviction against him. If he's telling the truth he'll be a valuable asset.

How so? The cults will just avoid recruiting him and if they manage to outnumber the town at some point they'll win either way.

Also, assuming he can indeed see all the members and roles of the cult that attempts to recruit him, don't you think it'd be an overkill? I mean the cult unlucky enough to recruit him would be destroyed basically. Seems kind of unbalanced.

But still this is a pretty critical point in the game, so we should probably discuss matters a bit more before lynching.

I do know all of their roles and get to bring it to my new cult
It may be unbalanced but there is only one role of itin the game

And to prove that I havent been recriuted yet we only dont know who is in the blue cult. If I was recruited I would have been invovled with two cults so that red or green would know about me
if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

[ace1217]

I can't disagree with you there, sir. I just don't have a a strong enough conviction against him. If he's telling the truth he'll be a valuable asset.

How so? The cults will just avoid recruiting him and if they manage to outnumber the town at some point they'll win either way.

Also, assuming he can indeed see all the members and roles of the cult that attempts to recruit him, don't you think it'd be an overkill? I mean the cult unlucky enough to recruit him would be destroyed basically. Seems kind of unbalanced.

But still this is a pretty critical point in the game, so we should probably discuss matters a bit more before lynching.

I do know all of their roles and get to bring it to my new cult
It may be unbalanced but there is only one role of itin the game

And to prove that I havent been recriuted yet we only dont know who is in the blue cult. If I was recruited I would have been invovled with two cults so that red or green would know about me
if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

Erm that doesn't clear you at all. You could be lying about your claim and be the last leader. This comment has just raised your scumminess.

[derfderf34]

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

[Stroop]

if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

You would be cleared to the people that believe your role claim.

To those who don't, you just re-confirmed your scumminess.

*fastposted

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

Let me remind you:

derfderf24 - 4 votes (Suspect101, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217)

Also will and LSU, who voted after this count.

Either you forgot that people were voting for you and thus disbelieving you, or you thought you could get that comment past us and maybe raise your townie score. I vote option 2.

[william18]

unvote (just incase)
vote derf(just incase)

[captainwalrus]

Can we get some prodds up in here? The only people posting are the people who have already voted, so were never gonna get a lynch.

[norsemsn1066]

Hey,

Sorry I've been less than active in this thread and have little to contribute at this time. RL has a way of getting in the way of Gaming time. I have nothing to offer at this time and although I know that the game is moving slowly enough as it is and Nate already needs one replacement I should ask for a replacement but instead I'll do my best to offer some input to keep the game moving.

Again I do apologize for my lack of posting.

[norsemsn1066]

What's the deal with Suspect101 and ace? I need some Cliff notes please.

[Stroop]

What's the deal with Suspect101 and ace? I need some Cliff notes please.

Ace claims to be the last green cult member. He apparently has a killing role, but he can only kill cult leaders (more or less confirmed by sheepofdumb and / on day 3).

Suspect101 replaced kagetora. He's likely the blue cult investigator (don't be fooled, it's a town role...). Since we still haven't killed any blue cult members, Suspect is a great source of info.

[Stroop]

What's the deal with Suspect101 and ace? I need some Cliff notes please.

Ace claims to be the last green cult member. He apparently has a killing role, but he can only kill cult leaders (more or less confirmed by sheepofdumb and / on day 3).

Sorry, he can only kill cult members, not only leaders.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I can't disagree with you there, sir. I just don't have a a strong enough conviction against him. If he's telling the truth he'll be a valuable asset.

How so? The cults will just avoid recruiting him and if they manage to outnumber the town at some point they'll win either way.

Also, assuming he can indeed see all the members and roles of the cult that attempts to recruit him, don't you think it'd be an overkill? I mean the cult unlucky enough to recruit him would be destroyed basically. Seems kind of unbalanced.

But still this is a pretty critical point in the game, so we should probably discuss matters a bit more before lynching.

I do know all of their roles and get to bring it to my new cult
It may be unbalanced but there is only one role of itin the game

And to prove that I havent been recriuted yet we only dont know who is in the blue cult. If I was recruited I would have been invovled with two cults so that red or green would know about me
if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

Derf it would be to Ace and WIll's advantage to lie about you not being in their cult so they could possibly win by having an under the radar player on their squad. That argument you made is pathetic.

[Juan_Bottom]

I can't disagree with you there, sir. I just don't have a a strong enough conviction against him. If he's telling the truth he'll be a valuable asset.

How so? The cults will just avoid recruiting him and if they manage to outnumber the town at some point they'll win either way.

Also, assuming he can indeed see all the members and roles of the cult that attempts to recruit him, don't you think it'd be an overkill? I mean the cult unlucky enough to recruit him would be destroyed basically. Seems kind of unbalanced.

But still this is a pretty critical point in the game, so we should probably discuss matters a bit more before lynching.

I only mean that if he is telling the truth, then we know that we can put our backs to him without him ever putting a knife in them. The cults won't ever recruit him, so we'll always know that he is town. Which more than you can say for most of us left. And anyone pointing at him and saying "lynch!" will look untrustworthy to me.

Derf it would be to Ace and WIll's advantage to lie about you not being in their cult so they could possibly win by having an under the radar player on their squad. That argument you made is pathetic.

I agree but if was recruited then wouldn't the originally recruiting cult be doing something about that?

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

Maybe I'm just too inexperianced and trusting?

[derfderf34]

Derf it would be to Ace and WIll's advantage to lie about you not being in their cult so they could possibly win by having an under the radar player on their squad. That argument you made is pathetic.

I agree but if was recruited then wouldn't the originally recruiting cult be doing something about that?

If I had been recruited and was moved to the green cult then I would have recruited by blue and they would be stupid to reveal themselves

[Juan_Bottom]

Derf it would be to Ace and WIll's advantage to lie about you not being in their cult so they could possibly win by having an under the radar player on their squad. That argument you made is pathetic.

I agree but if was recruited then wouldn't the originally recruiting cult be doing something about that?

If I had been recruited and was moved to the green cult then I would have recruited by blue and they would be stupid to reveal themselves

I don't mean reveil themselves per se... but they would be dead anyways, you know?

[derfderf34]

if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

You would be cleared to the people that believe your role claim.

To those who don't, you just re-confirmed your scumminess.

*fastposted

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

Let me remind you:

derfderf24 - 4 votes (Suspect101, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217)

Also will and LSU, who voted after this count.

Either you forgot that people were voting for you and thus disbelieving you, or you thought you could get that comment past us and maybe raise your townie score. I vote option 2.

almost all or all of these were before my claim

[spiesr]

if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

You would be cleared to the people that believe your role claim.

To those who don't, you just re-confirmed your scumminess.

*fastposted

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

Let me remind you:

derfderf24 - 4 votes (Suspect101, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217)

Also will and LSU, who voted after this count.

Either you forgot that people were voting for you and thus disbelieving you, or you thought you could get that comment past us and maybe raise your townie score. I vote option 2.

almost all or all of these were before my claim

No, those posts were talking about your claim...

I can't disagree with you there, sir. I just don't have a a strong enough conviction against him. If he's telling the truth he'll be a valuable asset.

How so? The cults will just avoid recruiting him and if they manage to outnumber the town at some point they'll win either way.

Also, assuming he can indeed see all the members and roles of the cult that attempts to recruit him, don't you think it'd be an overkill? I mean the cult unlucky enough to recruit him would be destroyed basically. Seems kind of unbalanced.

But still this is a pretty critical point in the game, so we should probably discuss matters a bit more before lynching.

I only mean that if he is telling the truth, then we know that we can put our backs to him without him ever putting a knife in them. The cults won't ever recruit him, so we'll always know that he is town. Which more than you can say for most of us left. And anyone pointing at him and saying "lynch!" will look untrustworthy to me.

Derf it would be to Ace and WIll's advantage to lie about you not being in their cult so they could possibly win by having an under the radar player on their squad. That argument you made is pathetic.

I agree but if was recruited then wouldn't the originally recruiting cult be doing something about that?

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

Maybe I'm just too inexperianced and trusting?

Unless of course he is lying...

[Stroop]

if ace and will both want to vouch that I have never been in their cult I would suppose that I am cleared

You would be cleared to the people that believe your role claim.

To those who don't, you just re-confirmed your scumminess.

*fastposted

Well since I am nnot lying about my claim I forgot about that factor of people not believing me

Let me remind you:

derfderf24 - 4 votes (Suspect101, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217)

Also will and LSU, who voted after this count.

Either you forgot that people were voting for you and thus disbelieving you, or you thought you could get that comment past us and maybe raise your townie score. I vote option 2.

almost all or all of these were before my claim

That's irrelevant, as everyone can unvote at any time...

[derfderf34]

I meant the votes were before my claim and half of those people havent even posted since

[Stroop]

I meant the votes were before my claim and half of those people havent even posted since

They've all posted. Even within 24 hours of your claim.

[Juan_Bottom]

You guys seem to be pretty adimatly (sp?) against him.... But I havn't seen any great evidence to show that he is lying? Because if he isn't, we can certainly use him...

You know what I'm thinking.

[Stroop]

You guys seem to be pretty adimatly (sp?) against him.... But I havn't seen any great evidence to show that he is lying? Because if he isn't, we can certainly use him...

You know what I'm thinking.

We have no evidence that he is lying. What we do have are all the scummy things he has done throughout the entire thread making me think he's lying and that he's the last cult leader. If he is, we can't risk spending a night investigating him, as he'll recruit another cult member.

How can we certainly use him? He's nothing but a regular townie now, if he's telling the truth.