World War 3

[heavycola]

alas no, it was Bob Dylan.

[Mirak]

The railing against Israel is nothing new in that region it has been going on since ancient times they hate them plain and simple all in the region do. If I am wrong name me a single empire or country that has ruled in that region that has been friendly to Israel. They do want the destruction of Israel even their people do to a certain extent.

Cyrus the Great ( A Persian) conquered Babylon and freed the Jews allowing them to go back to their homes and even rebuilt their temple for them....it is actually the West and Christianity that has historically had a problem with the Jews....until the establishment of modern day Israel, Islam and the Middle East never had any serious issues with Jews

As for Iran wanting to develop a bomb...they probably already have bought some of the warheads that cannot be accounted for since the collapse of the Soviet Union

You would have to go back a couple of centuries to find a war that was initiated by Iran and even this regime while heavy on the rhetoric has no serious plans to start anything anywhere..they are merely keeping their unhappy populous preoccupied.

But they do, like them or hate them, have legitimate security concerns given the way Iran has been treated recently and throughout the 20th century.

Iran is a regional superpower and the US has to swallow its pride, acknowledge that fact and deal with them on equal terms with no pre-conditions....the only reason they don't is because of the Jewish lobby and the Gulf states, who have historic rivalries with Iran

[qeee1]

So anyway what'll the sides be?

USA+most of Europe+Japan+Australia+Isreal vs. China+Iran+Russia+N.Korea+most of middle East+possibly south America?

War doesn't work like that. WWII spread across half the globe but there wasn't two sides. There were many, with lots of subtle and ever changing relationships between them. China has no interest in fighting alongside Iran, sure 10 years ago Chinese companies may have been involved in Iranian weapons programmes to make a quick buck, but that is far different from shouldering arms together.

Wasn't a serious post, I know what you mean. I think to speculate seriously upon a course of the war is going a bit too far for me anyway, as We don't know, and won't know.

The most ominous thing that's happened recently in my eyes is the close relations being built by Japan's and America's neo-cons. Bad omens...

[2dimes]

How about?

Iran+Russia+most of middle East as well as China+N.Korea

Vs.

USA+most of Europe+Australia+Isreal, possibly south America+Japan

As mentioned WWII wasn't 2 sides but the Allies fought Japan the Facists and the Nazis.

[Kokunai]

The railing against Israel is nothing new in that region it has been going on since ancient times they hate them plain and simple all in the region do. If I am wrong name me a single empire or country that has ruled in that region that has been friendly to Israel. They do want the destruction of Israel even their people do to a certain extent.

Cyrus the Great ( A Persian) conquered Babylon and freed the Jews allowing them to go back to their homes and even rebuilt their temple for them....it is actually the West and Christianity that has historically had a problem with the Jews....until the establishment of modern day Israel, Islam and the Middle East never had any serious issues with Jews

As for Iran wanting to develop a bomb...they probably already have bought some of the warheads that cannot be accounted for since the collapse of the Soviet Union

You would have to go back a couple of centuries to find a war that was initiated by Iran and even this regime while heavy on the rhetoric has no serious plans to start anything anywhere..they are merely keeping their unhappy populous preoccupied.

But they do, like them or hate them, have legitimate security concerns given the way Iran has been treated recently and throughout the 20th century.

Iran is a regional superpower and the US has to swallow its pride, acknowledge that fact and deal with them on equal terms with no pre-conditions....the only reason they don't is because of the Jewish lobby and the Gulf states, who have historic rivalries with Iran

You took what I said and pulled one example...good job. How about the Babylonians? The Assyrians? Or the Egyptians? Perhaps you could also look to the Romans, of course they weren't that bad they allowed them autonomy until 70AD then the Byzantines? How about the Medieval period course that would be Christianity and of course Islam but the Jews were pretty spread out by then. Even in modern times they have a hard time with the world. They have had trouble thorughout their history as a poeple.

Are you saying you don't care if a group of extremists (ie. The leaders of Iran) having the bomb. They will without a doubt allow hezbollah a few of them. Their people do not side with the leadership. And none of the Arab countries trust Iran but their people want Iran to be the leader of the Muslim world so they won't say anything openly about them. They use back channels to communicate their concerns and normally to Western powers. We have a huge reason for wanting Iran to remain out of the nuclear powers as the leaders have expressed a desire to rule the world and bring about the return of their 12th Imam(sp?), which they hope to accomplish by causing global chaos they do nto care if they die they would not hesitate to use their nuclear weapons to accomplish this goal. MAD will not work against them so we have to stop them from getting it or the world will be a very very bad place to be.

[vic]

what about south asia, esp india? whose team are we on?

we have a lot of guys to spare

if india sides with the us, then it will be game over for the russians coz everyone will fort into india and maintain conti bonus. but if india sides with the russians, the americans will lose all their doctors and scientists lol... the chinese will be gone too, so no conti bonus and we will get asia bonus... the europeans will be crushed for sure. maybe the aussies can hold out

Actually we are big pussies anyhow, india hasn't invaded any country in the last 2000 years. We are happy to do your taxes while you guys fight

How about?

Iran+Russia+most of middle East as well as China+N.Korea

Vs.

USA+most of Europe+Australia+Isreal, possibly south America+Japan

As mentioned WWII wasn't 2 sides but the Allies fought Japan the Facists and the Nazis.

[Mirak]

If I am wrong name me a single empire or country that has ruled in that region that has been friendly to Israel.

You took what I said and pulled one example...good job.

I was responding to the above

I didn't realise you wanted the whole history of the Jewish people

Yes they have been persecuted for centuries but they have suffered more from Christian persecution than from any other.

The other point I was trying to make is that as long as Iran does not have security guarantees from the US it is then naturally going to do whatever it can to protect itself.

Given the history of US-Iran relations it is encumbent upon the US to take a positive step to try and bring about mutual trust..as distasteful as the current regime in Iran is the louder the US barks the more entrenched the regime becomes

[Serbia]

Yes you are right to pull me up in this instance, if I'm honest it was intended to be inflammatory rather than accurate, and I'm not proud of that.

This was big of you, I appreciate the honesty.

[Caleb the Cruel]

There are two major predictions that kind of invlove warfare that I kind-of believe, but I won't fully believe unless they happen.
The first prediction is the Explosions of 2007 & 2008.
The second prediction is the War of 2036.

Can you tell us about these predictions? Such as details, and who's doing the predicting?

The prediction of the Explosions of 2007 & 2008 is not too clear as far as details are concerned. However the prediction does say that it will shake the world into fear and uproar.
The prediction of the War of 2036 is a tiny bit more detailed. According to the prediction, the War will start in Europe then spread to the east. The Christian Army of the West will clash with Islamic forces...
There are many more details, but I am not comfortable in revealing them at this point in time. And as for the source of these predictions, I will tell you one thing, they are not from Nostradamus.

[Caleb the Cruel]

Jesus has stated: "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned."

What if he has been baptized, but doesn't follow traditional doctrine?

You must BELIEVE to be saved. Meaning that you must accept Jesus as the Son of God and believe that He died for your sins etc...

[Caleb the Cruel]

There are two major predictions that kind of invlove warfare that I kind-of believe, but I won't fully believe unless they happen.

Thats marvellous. I kind of believe in lots of kind of things but wont fully believe in them unless they kind of happen. Remember though, he who does not believe will be condemned so, better safe than sorry

Well, I only FULLY believe the Bible. I don't even fully believe myself sometimes, if that makes any sense at all.

[DIRESTRAITS]

what about south asia, esp india? whose team are we on?

we have a lot of guys to spare

if india sides with the us, then it will be game over for the russians coz everyone will fort into india and maintain conti bonus. but if india sides with the russians, the americans will lose all their doctors and scientists lol... the chinese will be gone too, so no conti bonus and we will get asia bonus... the europeans will be crushed for sure. maybe the aussies can hold out

Actually we are big pussies anyhow, india hasn't invaded any country in the last 2000 years. We are happy to do your taxes while you guys fight

How about?

Iran+Russia+most of middle East as well as China+N.Korea

Vs.

USA+most of Europe+Australia+Isreal, possibly south America+Japan

As mentioned WWII wasn't 2 sides but the Allies fought Japan the Facists and the Nazis.

I think India will side with the U.S., because they seem to not like China, and their are the old Islamic-Hindu tensions. I also think that Europe will be controlled by the Arabs by the time WW3 happens.
How about
Islamic countries (Middle East and Europe)+China+N.Korea
Vs.
America+Israel+England+Aussies+India

Im not so sure Russia will join with the China/Middle East side, i think theyll take a wait and see approach, like they did in WW2

[Kokunai]

There are two major predictions that kind of invlove warfare that I kind-of believe, but I won't fully believe unless they happen.
The first prediction is the Explosions of 2007 & 2008.
The second prediction is the War of 2036.

Can you tell us about these predictions? Such as details, and who's doing the predicting?

The prediction of the Explosions of 2007 & 2008 is not too clear as far as details are concerned. However the prediction does say that it will shake the world into fear and uproar.
The prediction of the War of 2036 is a tiny bit more detailed. According to the prediction, the War will start in Europe then spread to the east. The Christian Army of the West will clash with Islamic forces...
There are many more details, but I am not comfortable in revealing them at this point in time. And as for the source of these predictions, I will tell you one thing, they are not from Nostradamus.

I do not see how you can place a timeframe on it. That is more what I am looking for. The exact prophecies your using to support your statement of 2007 and 2008 and 2036. I know you source as a whole but I am asking specific locations of the timeframe....Wait a minute do you believe the Dragon has been released upon the earth as in Revelation and that he has already began his war? Just trying to gauge your interpretation depending on your answer I will no where you got the interpretations simple yes or no is all you have to say. No need to go into it in depth.

[vic]

but what about conti bonus?????

well i guess you will have euro bonus and Na bonus... I don't know about south america... usually the australians always win lol.

what about south asia, esp india? whose team are we on?

we have a lot of guys to spare

if india sides with the us, then it will be game over for the russians coz everyone will fort into india and maintain conti bonus. but if india sides with the russians, the americans will lose all their doctors and scientists lol... the chinese will be gone too, so no conti bonus and we will get asia bonus... the europeans will be crushed for sure. maybe the aussies can hold out

Actually we are big pussies anyhow, india hasn't invaded any country in the last 2000 years. We are happy to do your taxes while you guys fight

How about?

Iran+Russia+most of middle East as well as China+N.Korea

Vs.

USA+most of Europe+Australia+Isreal, possibly south America+Japan

As mentioned WWII wasn't 2 sides but the Allies fought Japan the Facists and the Nazis.

I think India will side with the U.S., because they seem to not like China, and their are the old Islamic-Hindu tensions. I also think that Europe will be controlled by the Arabs by the time WW3 happens.
How about
Islamic countries (Middle East and Europe)+China+N.Korea
Vs.
America+Israel+England+Aussies+India

Im not so sure Russia will join with the China/Middle East side, i think theyll take a wait and see approach, like they did in WW2

[morph]

Italy and the aussies i believe were sided with the nazi's... i know italy was... i might be mistaken about the aussies...

[Bertros Bertros]

I think India will side with the U.S., because they seem to not like China, and their are the old Islamic-Hindu tensions. I also think that Europe will be controlled by the Arabs by the time WW3 happens.
How about
Islamic countries (Middle East and Europe)+China+N.Korea
Vs.
America+Israel+England+Aussies+India

Dude, just to be clear on this, England is absolutely a part of Europe, geographically, culturally, socially, fiscally; perhaps not entirely militarily but this is become less the case all of the time.

If you really think Europe will be controlled by arabs (personally I think this is bordering on the most ludicrous thing posted as of yet in this thread, I mean have the arab nations shown any inclination towards controlling other parts of the world in modern times, there really isnt any consensus between most arab nations anyway so how or why they would want to control Europe is pretty baffling) then that will include England or I guess you mean the UK.

[Serbia]

Italy and the aussies i believe were sided with the nazi's... i know italy was... i might be mistaken about the aussies...

Australia was on our side, our more correctly, on the side of the United Kingdom.

Remember that there is a Commonwealth of nations associated with the UK, these include Aussie, Canada, and India, which is a good arguement for suggesting India will be on our side, combined with the current problems they are facing with Islamic terrorists. One intersting note on the Commonwealth is that Pakistan is also a member, and they've had a long-standing border dispute with India, to the point of fighting 4 wars, in '47, '65, '71, and '99.

[vic]

the aussie conti bonus is key `

[DIRESTRAITS]

I think India will side with the U.S., because they seem to not like China, and their are the old Islamic-Hindu tensions. I also think that Europe will be controlled by the Arabs by the time WW3 happens.
How about
Islamic countries (Middle East and Europe)+China+N.Korea
Vs.
America+Israel+England+Aussies+India

Dude, just to be clear on this, England is absolutely a part of Europe, geographically, culturally, socially, fiscally; perhaps not entirely militarily but this is become less the case all of the time.

If you really think Europe will be controlled by arabs (personally I think this is bordering on the most ludicrous thing posted as of yet in this thread, I mean have the arab nations shown any inclination towards controlling other parts of the world in modern times, there really isnt any consensus between most arab nations anyway so how or why they would want to control Europe is pretty baffling) then that will include England or I guess you mean the UK.

Arab control of Europe is becoming a reality. As more Muslims emigrate to Europe, the social balance is moving more Arab. When their is about 45% Arabs living in Europe, youll see a series of Jihads that will leave Europe either in Arab control or anarchy. I dont see England suffering this fate because they have historically proved harder to take over than the rest of Europe, and they are less puussy tan the rest of Europe. Once again, the battlefield of this War will be Europe

[2dimes]

Interesting, do you think the riots in Paris were somewhat foreshadowing?

[DIRESTRAITS]

Yes I do. But imagine Tanks, Machine Guns, and Suicide Bombers

[2dimes]

Tanks, where are they getting those?

The other items would be fairly easy to gather unnoticed but tanks not so much.

[DIRESTRAITS]

I dont know. I was just posting random weapons

[2dimes]

How about one of them outerspace missile shields? That's a cool random weapon.

[Mirak]

lol

I think Europeans are going to take control of all Arab lands..there are so many of them around these parts nowadays......