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There are people who know what's going on (Glen Beck included) and then there are people who create threads like these and/or think it's funny, who don't.
THE DEBATE IS OVER...
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:There are people who know what's going on (Glen Beck included)
Why would anyone include Glen Beck?
Well, we have to balance out the dodgeball teams somehow. I mean, pick him last, of course. He's got a lot of target area and you just know he can't throw at all. He's more of a catcher than a pitcher, is what I'm saying. If you know what I mean. Wink wink, nudge nudge.
jay_a2j wrote:hey if any1 would like me to make them a signature or like an avator just let me no, my sig below i did, and i also did "panther 88" so i can do something like that for u if ud like...
Dude, you rule. And you know I sincerely mean that. I think you're my favorite person who takes a consistently opposing viewpoint to my own on this site.
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pimpdave wrote:Actually, GabonX, let's get serious for a minute...
Were you personally affected by 9/11? Please be honest in your answer.
Because, to be perfectly honest, I seriously cannot hide the rage I feel towards people who try to build their careers on an event they DON'T KNOW A FUCKING THING ABOUT.
Glenn Beck, that sanctimonious pussy, knows NOTHING OF THAT DAY. And yes, I'm a bit drunk right now, and probably shouldn't be posting, but honestly, f*ck that hypocritical waste of egg and sperm.
Let him experience what happened that day, and then see what he has to fucking say, the cunt.
The man deserves to be mocked off the air. He shouldn't be allowed to make a living off the suffering of others. And if he'd like to know what it's like to watch someone's head explode from a piece of falling debris, knowing that it could have just as easily been him had he been 5 feet further out the door, and then to have to carry the weight of that survivor guilt for the rest of his life, I'll gladly tell him. After I break his goddamn nose and beat him to the ground like the coward he is.
Dave, just go cool of a little. Let everybody else call Gabon a dipshit. Being too close to the event affects your responses and basically makes everyone think you're high on drugs or something. Just sit back and don't relive the experience.
Anyway, Glen Beck is a fucking pussy with not a single bit of dignity left in his soul. The guy is a fraud who tricks people into his ideas by playing on sentimental bullshit. The amount of dickery he gets away with by crying on camera talking about how he loooooooooves this country is quite frankly absurd. If you're actually defending him, Gabon, then you're just another one of those morons who back another moron despite all the evidence to the contrary.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
Dude, you rule. And you know I sincerely mean that. I think you're my favorite person who takes a consistently opposing viewpoint to my own on this site.
You have a view point? sheesh... who knew. I think Glen Beck is actually emotional about the fact that our country is teetering on the edge of a civil war. I think he really does get choked up when he sees thousands of people come together who actually care that our country is in the toilet, and realize now that Obama is a liar and a thief. Who are you people to suggest that he is a phony, Colbert is a comedian for craps sake!
Dude, you rule. And you know I sincerely mean that. I think you're my favorite person who takes a consistently opposing viewpoint to my own on this site.
You have a view point? sheesh... who knew. I think Glen Beck is actually emotional about the fact that our country is teetering on the edge of a civil war. I think he really does get choked up when he sees thousands of people come together who actually care that our country is in the toilet, and realize now that Obama is a liar and a thief. Who are you people to suggest that he is a phony, Colbert is a comedian for craps sake!
Dude, you rule. And you know I sincerely mean that. I think you're my favorite person who takes a consistently opposing viewpoint to my own on this site.
the fact that our country is teetering on the edge of a civil war.
Teetering on the brink of a civil war? Are you daft? In order to facilitate such a thing you would have to black out all the TVs, PCs, DVDs, etc., and then scare the shit out of them. When it comes to fighting for anything worthwhile, Americans are the most apathetic, lazy, pampered bunch of wankers in the world. The only time i've seen the populace (the younger part of course) roused to action was during the Viet Nam war, and that was because their lives were threatened with the draft. We are simply teetering on the edge of more bitching and moaning.
Although I do not often agree with Colbert or Stewart, those dudes are very funny and I try to watch as much as possible.
Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people get their news solely from the Daily Show, the Colbert Report, CNBC? Does anyone else find it disturbing that other people get their news solely from Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck (who, by the way, is also pretty funny)? Perhaps some day we can have a discussion of issues without one person saying "Well, Sean Hannity said..." and the opposing person, "Well, Rachel Madow said..." Perhaps if we had a state-run TV news station...
thegreekdog wrote:Although I do not often agree with Colbert or Stewart, those dudes are very funny and I try to watch as much as possible.
Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people get their news solely from the Daily Show, the Colbert Report, CNBC? Does anyone else find it disturbing that other people get their news solely from Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck (who, by the way, is also pretty funny)? Perhaps some day we can have a discussion of issues without one person saying "Well, Sean Hannity said..." and the opposing person, "Well, Rachel Madow said..." Perhaps if we had a state-run TV news station...
The reason for that is that the "real" news is utter shit. While what Colbert and Stewart do is for comedic effect, they seem to be the ones who ask the questions that everyone has. The large media-coporations have come to believe that "fair news" is the same as "uncritical news". Reporters should question things, be critical of what they hear, not just repeat what they hear.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
thegreekdog wrote:Although I do not often agree with Colbert or Stewart, those dudes are very funny and I try to watch as much as possible.
Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people get their news solely from the Daily Show, the Colbert Report, CNBC? Does anyone else find it disturbing that other people get their news solely from Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck (who, by the way, is also pretty funny)? Perhaps some day we can have a discussion of issues without one person saying "Well, Sean Hannity said..." and the opposing person, "Well, Rachel Madow said..." Perhaps if we had a state-run TV news station...
The reason for that is that the "real" news is utter shit. While what Colbert and Stewart do is for comedic effect, they seem to be the ones who ask the questions that everyone has. The large media-coporations have come to believe that "fair news" is the same as "uncritical news". Reporters should question things, be critical of what they hear, not just repeat what they hear.
Shouldn't a reporter report EXACTLY what they hear? Isn't that what a reporter is. I don't want to know what their opinion on Obama's speech is, I want to hear what he said. Either it is a report or an op-ed piece. That is the problem with the "news" in this country. Everyone thinks their opinion is important enough to be included in their report. Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck are not news reporters. Neither are the left's version, Olberman being the only one I can name. Cronkite was a reporter...."That's the way it was" not I,I,I me,me,me....
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jbrettlip wrote:Shouldn't a reporter report EXACTLY what they hear? Isn't that what a reporter is. I don't want to know what their opinion on Obama's speech is, I want to hear what he said. Either it is a report or an op-ed piece. That is the problem with the "news" in this country. Everyone thinks their opinion is important enough to be included in their report. Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck are not news reporters. Neither are the left's version, Olberman being the only one I can name. Cronkite was a reporter...."That's the way it was" not I,I,I me,me,me....
I am not talking about opinion, I'm talking about asking critical questions. Like "Doesn't what you said directly contradict a previous statement of yours?" or "Why did you say this when it's clear you know it was untrue?
A reporter should report the truth, not just what they hear.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
jbrettlip wrote:Shouldn't a reporter report EXACTLY what they hear? Isn't that what a reporter is. I don't want to know what their opinion on Obama's speech is, I want to hear what he said. Either it is a report or an op-ed piece. That is the problem with the "news" in this country. Everyone thinks their opinion is important enough to be included in their report. Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck are not news reporters. Neither are the left's version, Olberman being the only one I can name. Cronkite was a reporter...."That's the way it was" not I,I,I me,me,me....
I am not talking about opinion, I'm talking about asking critical questions. Like "Doesn't what you said directly contradict a previous statement of yours?" or "Why did you say this when it's clear you know it was untrue?
A reporter should report the truth, not just what they hear.
But what happens when reporters ask critical questions of only one kind of person or ask critical questions of only other reporters? For example, many would argue (myself included) that "reporters" like Colbert and Stewart (yes, I include them), Olbermann, and Matthews only ask critical questions of members or supporters of the Republican Party. Alternatively, many would argue (myself included) would argue that Hannity and Beck only ask critical questions of members or supporters of the Democratic Party. I think the difference between those two groups of "reporters" are that the first group is generally seen as "unbiased" while the second group is generally seen as "biased."
jbrettlip wrote:Shouldn't a reporter report EXACTLY what they hear? Isn't that what a reporter is. I don't want to know what their opinion on Obama's speech is, I want to hear what he said. Either it is a report or an op-ed piece. That is the problem with the "news" in this country. Everyone thinks their opinion is important enough to be included in their report. Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck are not news reporters. Neither are the left's version, Olberman being the only one I can name. Cronkite was a reporter...."That's the way it was" not I,I,I me,me,me....
I am not talking about opinion, I'm talking about asking critical questions. Like "Doesn't what you said directly contradict a previous statement of yours?" or "Why did you say this when it's clear you know it was untrue?
A reporter should report the truth, not just what they hear.
But what happens when reporters ask critical questions of only one kind of person or ask critical questions of only other reporters? For example, many would argue (myself included) that "reporters" like Colbert and Stewart (yes, I include them), Olbermann, and Matthews only ask critical questions of members or supporters of the Republican Party. Alternatively, many would argue (myself included) would argue that Hannity and Beck only ask critical questions of members or supporters of the Democratic Party. I think the difference between those two groups of "reporters" are that the first group is generally seen as "unbiased" while the second group is generally seen as "biased."
Oh ofcourse, both ways are bad. (Though I would argue that the difference between Stewart and Hannity is that Hannity doesn't ask honest questions. "Do you hate America?" is not a critical question.)
But this is just a side-effect of the real media not asking the questions. Jon Stewart admits he isn't making real news and only plays for his target-audience, but it's worrying that there are so many people who listen to what he says because the real news is cowardly and weak.
If you get real media to be better, the bias of others is not important.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
jbrettlip wrote:Shouldn't a reporter report EXACTLY what they hear? Isn't that what a reporter is. I don't want to know what their opinion on Obama's speech is, I want to hear what he said. Either it is a report or an op-ed piece. That is the problem with the "news" in this country. Everyone thinks their opinion is important enough to be included in their report. Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck are not news reporters. Neither are the left's version, Olberman being the only one I can name. Cronkite was a reporter...."That's the way it was" not I,I,I me,me,me....
I am not talking about opinion, I'm talking about asking critical questions. Like "Doesn't what you said directly contradict a previous statement of yours?" or "Why did you say this when it's clear you know it was untrue?
A reporter should report the truth, not just what they hear.
But what happens when reporters ask critical questions of only one kind of person or ask critical questions of only other reporters? For example, many would argue (myself included) that "reporters" like Colbert and Stewart (yes, I include them), Olbermann, and Matthews only ask critical questions of members or supporters of the Republican Party. Alternatively, many would argue (myself included) would argue that Hannity and Beck only ask critical questions of members or supporters of the Democratic Party. I think the difference between those two groups of "reporters" are that the first group is generally seen as "unbiased" while the second group is generally seen as "biased."
Oh ofcourse, both ways are bad. (Though I would argue that the difference between Stewart and Hannity is that Hannity doesn't ask honest questions. "Do you hate America?" is not a critical question.)
But this is just a side-effect of the real media not asking the questions. Jon Stewart admits he isn't making real news and only plays for his target-audience, but it's worrying that there are so many people who listen to what he says because the real news is cowardly and weak.
If you get real media to be better, the bias of others is not important.
Even though Hannity is an egomaniacal borderline fascist, I will say this for the guy - at least he tries to question the current administration. It's the blind loyalty to the president of the media not named "Fox" that gets to me. At least everyone knows Fox is biased. And I agree with the "real media" comment. The media should be constantly questioning the government on everything, no matter who is in the government.
Asking critical questions???The first reporter to do that to Obama woudl find their press pass revoked, along with their citizenship. You live in a fantasy world if you think the news is fair or independent.
nothing wrong with a little bit of man on dog love.