Cheating game# 4587358 and others [cleared and noted]

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

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Accused:

ngleichman
morelikethemoon7
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The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

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Comments:

[ngleichman]

This guy's nuts-

Our alliance was blatantly stated on the board. He flipped out and started crying for no reason. Also his avatar is offensive perhaps you could remove it for him. Also, as noted by the blue player in the game in question, GENERALSTONEHAM is clearly guilty of secret diplomacy. As evidenced by the chat board.

[morelikethemoon7]

I would also like to note General Stoneham's aggressive homophopbia which falls under the category of bigotry in the forum guidelines. Not only is his language offensive to me and the other player in the game it was directed at, but it could be offensive to the other players in the game who weren't specifically targeted. It was completely out of line and unneccessary. As ngleichman stated, our truce was made public on the chat board.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Oh and the two of you playing at the same time is a coincidence, right?

It's apparent the two of you are in bed together as your past history is plain to see.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Looking at your past games, it shows how the two of you would play with in a minute or two of each other. Also, how the two of you almost always play in the same sequence.

Hmmmm

[ben79]

This guy's nuts-

Also his avatar is offensive perhaps you could remove it for him.

you're probably from united states of america to think that his avatar is offensive ....

[ngleichman]

actually we do not play in the same sequence each time.

for the last time, we play in games together because we are friends. I know the idea of a friend OUTSIDE of conquer club escapes you, but whenever I start a game I let him know and visa versa. That is not illegal. our turns are taken sequentially because we're both sitting around at work on the same time zone. we often attack eachother and knock eachother out of games. so just relax with the bigotry. youve made a fool of yourself just try to quietly back off into the darkness.

I am from the US, and if this dude wasn't a d-bag, i wouldnt have a problem with his avatar.

[JCKing]

From what I see these are two friends. Now whether they have had secret diplomacies I have not looked into. But I'm going to say these 2 are noted, and not busted.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

I would also like to note General Stoneham's aggressive homophopbia which falls under the category of bigotry in the forum guidelines. Not only is his language offensive to me and the other player in the game it was directed at, but it could be offensive to the other players in the game who weren't specifically targeted. It was completely out of line and unneccessary. As ngleichman stated, our truce was made public on the chat board.

We're talking cheating not bigotry.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

This guy's nuts-

Also his avatar is offensive perhaps you could remove it for him.

you're probably from united states of america to think that his avatar is offensive ....

We're not talking avatar, we're talking about CHEATING.

[Woodruff]

I am from the US, and if this dude wasn't a d-bag, i wouldnt have a problem with his avatar.

So your definition of "offensive avatar" actually only relies on what you think of the user? Hmmm...

[Woodruff]

I would also like to note General Stoneham's aggressive homophopbia which falls under the category of bigotry in the forum guidelines. Not only is his language offensive to me and the other player in the game it was directed at, but it could be offensive to the other players in the game who weren't specifically targeted. It was completely out of line and unneccessary. As ngleichman stated, our truce was made public on the chat board.

We're talking cheating not bigotry.

Actually, we're talking about both.

[Woodruff]

This guy's nuts-

Also his avatar is offensive perhaps you could remove it for him.

you're probably from united states of america to think that his avatar is offensive ....

We're not talking avatar, we're talking about CHEATING.

Actually, we're talking about both.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

This guy's nuts-

Also his avatar is offensive perhaps you could remove it for him.

you're probably from united states of america to think that his avatar is offensive ....

We're not talking avatar, we're talking about CHEATING.

Actually, we're talking about both.

It's really nice to hear from an empty headed alien, but you're wrong.

This thread is about cheating, you know....how your sister left you for your older brother.

[Woodruff]

This guy's nuts-

Also his avatar is offensive perhaps you could remove it for him.

you're probably from united states of america to think that his avatar is offensive ....

We're not talking avatar, we're talking about CHEATING.

Actually, we're talking about both.

It's really nice to hear from an empty headed alien, but you're wrong.
This thread is about cheating, you know....how your sister left you for your older brother.

Thank you for the outstanding example of precisely what your opponents are saying about you.
Well done!

[king sam]

First fill the form out correctly if you want this to get looked at

Accused:
ngleichman
morelikethemoon7

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
Game 4587358

Comments:

2nd the declared a truce in the game chat. Which is legal. Granted it was round 5 at the time, yellow had 5 regions, you (GENERAL STONEHAM) had 6 they had 8 & 11 and blue had 8 and a 2 man bonus and the game was undecided and early but they went about it in the right manner.

2009-04-03 11:30:16 - ngleichman: 2 turn truce red?
2009-04-03 13:38:36 - morelikethemoon7: yeah, t2 turn truce it is

They have admitted to knowing each other off site, and have played in 52 games together in all different kinds of settings.

morelikethemoon7 has won 8 of those games that included more then 2 players
and 1 one on one battle between them

ngleichman has won 13 of those games that included more then 2 players

21 out of 52 games played together at least 1 of them is the victor is a descent %, the mods will have to look at some of the trends in those games to see if they have conducted themselves in a way that helped benefit one another, but given the games I checked it looks like they play honest games.

Its a reach, and most likely will be NOTED in case this occurrence ever happens again.

But the most abusive behavior out of the whole ordeal came from you in the game chat GENERAL STONEHAM, if you walk away from this without a WARNING you will be lucky.

Best of Luck,
KS

[sailorseal]

I don't even understand what they are accused of.
Can you use the form correctly

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Ok, I'll explain. These two cheaters, so-called friends, play seperately and as partners.

They say they're friends.

They play together in most of their games, seperately got it? They play a lot of games in sequence, as in player 2 and 3 or player 3 or 4, got it?

Now look at how often they work together, to make sure one or the other wins.

They also play with-in seconds or minutes of each other, which invites collusion!

If this is allowed here at C.C. then I'll form a "friendship" with someone and watch how I'll roll over opponets in games. Especially in "fog of war" games.

So, to the moderator Night Strike, who finds my language offensive. I'll play by THEIR rules, since it's ok!

Thanks to you guys for letting me know how to win and raise my ranking and those so very precious points!

[Night Strike]

So, to the moderator Night Strike, who finds my language offensive. I'll play by THEIR rules, since it's ok!

I don't have the tools to rule on whether or not your accusation is accurate or not. I DO have the ability to warn you for comments that do not meet the Community Guidelines, which is what I did. I neither condoned nor condemned the accused's actions

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

So, to the moderator Night Strike, who finds my language offensive. I'll play by THEIR rules, since it's ok!

I don't have the tools to rule on whether or not your accusation is accurate or not. I DO have the ability to warn you for comments that do not meet the Community Guidelines, which is what I did. I neither condoned nor condemned the accused's actions

Ok, Night Strike, you are a spanker of naughty comments fine. I do apologize for the the utterly obscene comments directed at these, umm, errr......gentlemen.

How long does it take before C.C. Gestapo makes a finding on these crimes against humanity? Cause, I'm ready and willing to use these same brilliant methods against my fellow players here and raise my rankings in a hurry.

[DarthBlood]

a declaration of intent to cheat! multiple times!

and besides, having friends isn't a crime...when i play games with my friend, we always play at the same time. of course, i only play with him in team games, cuz he kicks too much ass in normal games...

anyway, this is not cheating. and not to mention, there's no real proof. it's all circumstantial.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

a declaration of intent to cheat! multiple times!

and besides, having friends isn't a crime...when i play games with my friend, we always play at the same time. of course, i only play with him in team games, cuz he kicks too much ass in normal games...

anyway, this is not cheating. and not to mention, there's no real proof. it's all circumstantial.

Playing as TEAMS is ok. It's their tactics they use, when they're not as teams that's the problem.

Friends who play often together as teams is fine with me. BUT, their friendship and the way they play in single games, as a 1, 2 punch invites abuse.

The proof buddy, is that what you want? Look at all the games they played together. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that they play and scheme together, when they don't play as a team.

[Woodruff]

Ok, Night Strike, you are a spanker of naughty comments fine. I do apologize for the the utterly obscene comments directed at these, umm, errr......gentlemen.
How long does it take before C.C. Gestapo makes a finding on these crimes against humanity? Cause, I'm ready and willing to use these same brilliant methods against my fellow players here and raise my rankings in a hurry.

There was no need for you to make a public statement regarding your lack of integrity, but I suppose this will make the moderator's job easier in the future.

[king sam]

GENERAL STONEHAM did you not read my post?

They have admitted to knowing each other off site, and have played in 52 games together in all different kinds of settings.

morelikethemoon7 has won 8 of those games that included more then 2 players
and 1 one on one battle between them

ngleichman has won 13 of those games that included more then 2 players

21 out of 52 games played together at least 1 of them is the victor is a descent %, the mods will have to look at some of the trends in those games to see if they have conducted themselves in a way that helped benefit one another, but given the games I checked it looks like they play honest games.

Its a reach, and most likely will be NOTED in case this occurrence ever happens again.

I found a relatively high % of wins between the 2 when they are in games with other users. This will get taken into consideration by the hunters and most likely get NOTED as I said.

Be patient

KS

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Ok, Night Strike, you are a spanker of naughty comments fine. I do apologize for the the utterly obscene comments directed at these, umm, errr......gentlemen.
How long does it take before C.C. Gestapo makes a finding on these crimes against humanity? Cause, I'm ready and willing to use these same brilliant methods against my fellow players here and raise my rankings in a hurry.

There was no need for you to make a public statement regarding your lack of integrity, but I suppose this will make the moderator's job easier in the future.

Woodie, you are just a waste of bytes on this thread.