So, I'm gonna try a simple C-9 - Day 3

[Stroop]

I'll re-read and dig up possible evidence for this once I get back from the city hall...

Which is now.

All I found was Suspect trying far too hard to label me scum because of a joke on page 3 (also apparently ignoring the explanation of the joke)...

vote Suspect

first jump on the vote for Ace, couldn't wait to do that could you?

No, I couldn't. Two cops claim in a C9 and one is confirmed, then the other is scum.

then try and back out once your greedy mafia eyes actually read the expalnation.

I'm not just trying, I indeed am backing out after I read the explanation, because now it in fact is possible that Ace is the cop, and I have no reason to assume that he isn't.

Then try to pass the blame onto me.

And cena, really.

Not to mention the fact that you lead the spear head against speisr.

not speisr, PMC

No, no I didn't. I just put him on L-1. If anything, accuse of me of bandwagoning.

And here is the kicker.......

I am the dr! I protected Ace last night.

You protected him before Simon mentioned it was actually possible he was a cop? You protected confirmed scum? Good move!

Though... you aren't really a doctor of course...

[Suspect101]

yes I did because of PMC's post, if a cop was sure that Ace was a cop, then why would I not believe it. How is it possible that Ace could have posted the exact same PM that PMC got, unless he was a cop too?

[Suspect101]

Since rule 5 allows me to quote PMs from the mod, I will quote my role PM.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=213&t=81915

You are a cop. You can investigate people at night to learn their role. You win when the mafia have been eliminated.

Confirm in thread.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=213&t=81915&p=1925717#p1925717

You are a cop. You can investigate people at night to learn their roles. You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

It seems you are legit, meanly their is only one letter difference between our pm's, the s at the end of roles. And a slight difference in the link :S

There PM from the mod was the same. I even went as far as to check the links to make sure one of them was not taling about a different game. And if you check them, they both bring you here. This information came out a little too late, I knew either PMC was lying or they both were cops.

[Stroop]

yes I did because of PMC's post, if a cop was sure that Ace was a cop, then why would I not believe it. How is it possible that Ace could have posted the exact same PM that PMC got, unless he was a cop too?

It isn't the exact same PM and it's a pretty generic C9 PM too. Based on my role PM, I could've written that (if I still had it).

[Suspect101]

yes I did because of PMC's post, if a cop was sure that Ace was a cop, then why would I not believe it. How is it possible that Ace could have posted the exact same PM that PMC got, unless he was a cop too?

It isn't the exact same PM and it's a pretty generic C9 PM too. Based on my role PM, I could've written that (if I still had it).

You are right they are not exact, he is missing 1 letter, and the links take you to the same spot. That is still close enouogh in my book. There is no wat you could have written that exact same roll word for word and only missed 1 letter. It is too close. You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

[Stroop]

yes I did because of PMC's post, if a cop was sure that Ace was a cop, then why would I not believe it. How is it possible that Ace could have posted the exact same PM that PMC got, unless he was a cop too?

It isn't the exact same PM and it's a pretty generic C9 PM too. Based on my role PM, I could've written that (if I still had it).

You are right they are not exact, he is missing 1 letter, and the links take you to the same spot. That is still close enouogh in my book. There is no wat you could have written that exact same roll word for word and only missed 1 letter. It is too close. You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

Thanks for showing that you blindly follow the conclusions of confirmed townies. Pmc said it only missed 1 letter. In fact, there's more. I've reached what I wanted to reach with this point, so we might as well drop it now.

You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

Could you clearly explain why you want to lynch me before cena? You are so sure both of us are scum, why am I first?

[Suspect101]

yes I did because of PMC's post, if a cop was sure that Ace was a cop, then why would I not believe it. How is it possible that Ace could have posted the exact same PM that PMC got, unless he was a cop too?

It isn't the exact same PM and it's a pretty generic C9 PM too. Based on my role PM, I could've written that (if I still had it).

You are right they are not exact, he is missing 1 letter, and the links take you to the same spot. That is still close enouogh in my book. There is no wat you could have written that exact same roll word for word and only missed 1 letter. It is too close. You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

Thanks for showing that you blindly follow the conclusions of confirmed townies. Pmc said it only missed 1 letter. In fact, there's more. I've reached what I wanted to reach with this point, so we might as well drop it now.

You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

Could you clearly explain why you want to lynch me before cena? You are so sure both of us are scum, why am I first?

why am I first.

[Stroop]

yes I did because of PMC's post, if a cop was sure that Ace was a cop, then why would I not believe it. How is it possible that Ace could have posted the exact same PM that PMC got, unless he was a cop too?

It isn't the exact same PM and it's a pretty generic C9 PM too. Based on my role PM, I could've written that (if I still had it).

You are right they are not exact, he is missing 1 letter, and the links take you to the same spot. That is still close enouogh in my book. There is no wat you could have written that exact same roll word for word and only missed 1 letter. It is too close. You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

Thanks for showing that you blindly follow the conclusions of confirmed townies. Pmc said it only missed 1 letter. In fact, there's more. I've reached what I wanted to reach with this point, so we might as well drop it now.

You have been scummy all game, my vote stays with you, Cena is next.

Could you clearly explain why you want to lynch me before cena? You are so sure both of us are scum, why am I first?

why am I first.

Because I re-read and I didn't find evidence for cena's scumminess. If you are willing to lynch your scumbuddy, I'll happily join you in that. We lynch cena now and on day 3 we both make our case to either Ace or Thezz, whoever you leave alive (because you would be a fool to kill me).

Or we both continue our case right now. Your reluctance to answer my question doesn't make you look any better.

[Suspect101]

I already proved my points.

1. You make scummy comments, that because I called you out on, you now try and turn around on me. I did not force a vote on you or even try.

2. You headed and called for the hammering of PMC.

3. You jumped on the Ace bandwagon without even reading. You had it premeditated that you were going to get him lynched for what you thought was a mistake, an easy win in your book.

4. You then back peddled and only found me accusing you of acting scuumy to as your defense?

You have no explaination for anything. I don't care which of you two get lynched. Whoever Thzz or Ace votes for, I will vote for that person as well.

[Stroop]

1. You make scummy comments, that because I called you out on, you now try and turn around on me. I did not force a vote on you or even try.

I think you'll find it's the other way around. I accused and voted you, and you decided to retaliate in kind.

2. You headed and called for the hammering of PMC.

In which I wasn't the only one. His cop claim was counterclaimed and literally everyone voted for him.

3. You jumped on the Ace bandwagon without even reading. You had it premeditated that you were going to get him lynched for what you thought was a mistake, an easy win in your book.

There was no bandwagon. Yes, I intended to lynch him... until I read Simon's post. I had it premeditated that I was going to get him lynched, because pmc being a cop excluded Ace being a cop. You seem to confuse knowing the setup of a C9 with being scum.

4. You then back peddled and only found me accusing you of acting scuumy to as your defense?

Of course I backed off. Simon pretty much confirmed that Ace was town, why would I ever want to lynch him? You're consistently trying to make me look bad over one simple mistake (failing to read Simon's little note), much like you did with the joke on page 3.

You have no explaination for anything.

I don't care which of you two get lynched. Whoever Thzz or Ace votes for, I will vote for that person as well.

Can't make up your own mind? Again you act scummy by binding your vote to those of confirmed townies.

[Suspect101]

don't be mad cause I caught you.............. again!!!!

[Stroop]

don't be mad cause I caught you.............. again!!!!

I am not mad. Also, I do not care that you "caught" me in the Triple Cult game... good for you.

Now, if you have nothing useful left to add, let's just leave it to the rest of the town to decide who's scum and who isn't.

[Suspect101]

don't be mad cause I caught you.............. again!!!!

I am not mad. Also, I do not care that you "caught" me in the Triple Cult game... good for you.

Now, if you have nothing useful left to add, let's just leave it to the rest of the town to decide who's scum and who isn't.

you have added nothing while I have answered every and all your questions. You even tried to flip my answers to make me sound bad, which only make you look worse.

maybe it is you who should stop posting.

[cena-rules]

Well I immediatley thought that Stroop was scum because he pushed for the hammer on PMC. Yes, I know i hammered but PMC seemed in a hole and there was no point dragging it out. I am gonna stick with this instinct

vote stroop

[Stroop]

Well I immediatley thought that Stroop was scum because he pushed for the hammer on PMC. Yes, I know i hammered but PMC seemed in a hole and there was no point dragging it out. I am gonna stick with this instinct

vote stroop

So instead of telling the town "hey guys, I think we're lynching the wrong person here" you went ahead and killed the cop because you didn't care. Not really a town action, don't you think?

[cena-rules]

Well I immediatley thought that Stroop was scum because he pushed for the hammer on PMC. Yes, I know i hammered but PMC seemed in a hole and there was no point dragging it out. I am gonna stick with this instinct

vote stroop

So instead of telling the town "hey guys, I think we're lynching the wrong person here" you went ahead and killed the cop because you didn't care. Not really a town action, don't you think?

If I didnt hammer someone else would

[Stroop]

Well I immediatley thought that Stroop was scum because he pushed for the hammer on PMC. Yes, I know i hammered but PMC seemed in a hole and there was no point dragging it out. I am gonna stick with this instinct

vote stroop

So instead of telling the town "hey guys, I think we're lynching the wrong person here" you went ahead and killed the cop because you didn't care. Not really a town action, don't you think?

If I didnt hammer someone else would

Maybe. Maybe not if you had shouted I was scum and made up some good arguments for that. If you were really town, and you thought I was scum instead of pmc, you should have saved the cop instead of killing him...

[Suspect101]

unvote

ok, I was expecting Cena to vote for me.

There are only two possibilites:

1) You two are scum buddies. If one of you jumps on the other scums wagon, it makes you look innocent.

2) we have been dooped. Ace is a cop, just not for the town and he and Thzz are mafia.

Why did the mafia not attempt to kill Ace last night? And why are we the only ones talking?

[Suspect101]

ok, thinking harder, and probably not smarter.

1) Stroop and Cena are scum, trying to make at least one of them look innocent.****** (my number 1 choice)

2) Ace and thzz are scum, but right now they have enough votes to get either of us, so I doubt that BOTH of them are.

3) Thzz is scum and just did nothing last night, the other mafia handed in the orders. (is this possible or would both come up as scum.?) I don't think this is possible, so I doubt this one as well.

4) Ace is scum, and claimed Thzz as innocent becuse Thzz really is innocent and gives him a great cover. If we lynch town today, he wins. If we lynch a mafia today, he can still win because he can kill, then claim that he saw the other person do it.


It would really help to have your input Thzz and Ace to help make decisions.

[Stroop]

And now you back off, accusing everyone left alive in this game.

1) Stroop and Cena are scum, trying to make at least one of them look innocent.****** (my number 1 choice)

This is the only plausible theory you came up with. Why unvote me then? Why care if "my partner" is helping you out a bit? You obviously see through "our deception".

[Suspect101]

And now you back off, accusing everyone left alive in this game.

1) Stroop and Cena are scum, trying to make at least one of them look innocent.****** (my number 1 choice)

This is the only plausible theory you came up with. Why unvote me then? Why care if "my partner" is helping you out a bit? You obviously see through "our deception".

ok fine, I agree. You and your partner should die.

vote stroop

I am sure that thzz is not mafia, that only leaves you, Cena, and Ace. I am 75% sure Ace is town, so that leaves either of you two.

[Suspect101]

Ace, if you are scum, you are a frickin genius.

[AceArtemis]

Sorry about not posting in awhile. I will read through all your arguments, and post my thoughts in a few hours.

[AceArtemis]

Well I immediatley thought that Stroop was scum because he pushed for the hammer on PMC. Yes, I know i hammered but PMC seemed in a hole and there was no point dragging it out. I am gonna stick with this instinct

vote stroop

I find this post very scummy. In a standard C9 game, if someone claims a power role and gets counter-claimed on Day 1, they should be lynched every time, because if they are not scum, then the counter-claimer is, and the town is guaranteed to catch a scum by Day 2. We didn't know at that time that this game isn't a standard C9 and contains 2 cops, and Stroop was just following basic town strategy. The post is also hypocritical because cena is accusing Stroop of something he did himself. I don't know if you are distancing or trying to lynch the townie, but it really doesn't matter at this point. I will refrain from voting, however, because I want more discussion before I make a decision.

The way I see this game, is that if everyone can get over their doubts about me being a cop *cough*Suspect*cough*, everyone except me and Thezz knows who the mafia are. It is your job to convince me and Thezz that you are town and the other two are scum.

Thezz, do you have anything to say?

[Thezzaruz]

Yes I do. I have lurked a bit as I thought it would be interesting to see Stroop, cena and supect go a few rounds by themselves first.

4) Ace is scum, and claimed Thzz as innocent becuse Thzz really is innocent and gives him a great cover. If we lynch town today, he wins. If we lynch a mafia today, he can still win because he can kill, then claim that he saw the other person do it.

That is a possibility even with the screwie set-up.

3) Thzz is scum and just did nothing last night, the other mafia handed in the orders. (is this possible or would both come up as scum.?) I don't think this is possible, so I doubt this one as well.

No both would still show up as scum when investigated.

1) Stroop and Cena are scum, trying to make at least one of them look innocent.****** (my number 1 choice)

That sounds really likely tbh.

Why did the mafia not attempt to kill Ace last night?

Good question. Even if they expected a Doc it was anything but sure that Ace would be protected. In fact I'd like to know a bit more about why you did protect Ace, seems like the worst possible move even with pmc's dying support???