Gutshots [Noted]

[slowreactor]

Is it just me, or does rabid bunnies criticize every complaint?

[apb23]

Is it just me, or does rabid bunnies criticize every complaint?

Lmao...I agree...but she is entitled to her opinion (or at least should be).

[BoganGod]

apb23

A suggestion for you, how about you stop accusing people of farming, put your money up and get premium and play as many games as you want. That will give you less time to brew petty storms in tea cups. I start 10-12 feud 2player games ever other day, sometimes noobs join. That doesn't make me a farmer, nor would me joining 25games in a row 1on1 vs noobs, on maps that I don't know, and am interested in joining.
To the person that said trips/quads is more like farming. Fair call, if slightly off key. Noobies stand a lot less of a chance if they take on an experienced quads team, in team games, you have map knowledge+knowledge of working as team. Both of which go against the noobie.
When I started most of my games were against more experienced players.... I didn't consider them farmers, some even gave me useful advice. Realistically when you start pretty much everyone is more experienced than you.
Lame act accusing the dude, real lame. Thank god we are no longer looking for reds under the bed, otherwise you would be spending your time doing that?

[BoganGod]

apb23
previous post was maybe a bit harsh. I just don't understand people trolling around looking to accuse others especially those that they don't have a relationship with or have had a bad experience with. Don't know why you would bother. Maybe been a Quisling is part of some peoples makeup, I just can't understand it.
Most people actions are due to selfish motivations(though they may try and pass it off as something else), looking after number one is a survival instinct. So I just don't understand what you stand to gain aside from attention from spying on others. Not having a go at you, would love to be able to understand. Look forward to an explanation.

[Rabid bunnies]

Is it just me, or does rabid bunnies criticize every complaint?

Lmao...I agree...but she is entitled to her opinion (or at least should be).

It's what I do in life I'm afraid lol. I work under my father as an understudy practicing law. I criticize everything that has a hole in it. I deal with prosecutors, victims, accusers... everyday it seems. I don't like seeing weak cases... In the world I live in, if you accuse someone, you have to be very sure because of the money, time and effort invested in trial.

CC is a little different, there is no need to be sure, you can throw out random accusations, you can fish for cheaters with a hit-miss approach that is so sloppy that I chuckle. If I were to ever wander into a court like that I would be a) very frustrated or b) (if the rules of law applied) very rich simply because the cases are so... sloppy lol.

And while I know that CC is different and doesn't need the law and order that you will find in a court of law, I can't break my habit of assessing and criticizing weak cases. Show me beyond reasonable doubt why someone is guilty of what they're being accused of. Make sure they are doing what they are being accused of and make sure it's against the rules.


This is a funny case. If I were to join games with 50 new players because those 50 players were the only ones with games available that I found... would I be warned? New players are players too and other members shouldn't feel the need to avoid them just because someone else might say: "oh geez... s/he's playing with new players so often!"

Jasmine

[Woodruff]

Is it just me, or does rabid bunnies criticize every complaint?

We're in an open forum, and she's an active poster. If she sees something amiss, she comments. Nothing wrong with that at all.

[apb23]

apb23
previous post was maybe a bit harsh. I just don't understand people trolling around looking to accuse others especially those that they don't have a relationship with or have had a bad experience with. Don't know why you would bother. Maybe been a Quisling is part of some peoples makeup, I just can't understand it.
Most people actions are due to selfish motivations(though they may try and pass it off as something else), looking after number one is a survival instinct. So I just don't understand what you stand to gain aside from attention from spying on others. Not having a go at you, would love to be able to understand. Look forward to an explanation.

Lmao. First of all, I noticed this (you can see I have no grudge against gutshots because we haven't played a game against each other, or at least I do not remember 1) when I searched waiting for players, two, casual public in game finder. I scrolled down the page and saw around 2 games against noobs. I did not see any 2 player games that interested me, so I hit refresh (since games are created and joined really quickly), and noticed that those games were now gone. After refreshing another time or so (I do not remember exactly), I saw more games with noobs, and after refreshing again, they were gone. I then decided to see who was joining these noobs' games so quickly, and it was gutshots. So to say that I was spying on gutshots is a completely incorrect statement. Also, if I was trolling around looking to accuse people, than why is this only the third time that I have accused someone of something, and in this case, all I have asked for was that gutshots be warned or that this case be noted, so that he does not continue this again.

[BoganGod]

Thanks for the explanation, makes a bit more sense. I'm not familar enough with site to know how to search how many times people have accused others of things, am more than happy to take your word for it been only 3times. Zero for me, Was having a look at forum, and saw gutshots name on abuse so thought I would check it out. Have had a look at a few other threads, there are so very active/paranoid people out there. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

[apb23]

Thanks for the explanation, makes a bit more sense. I'm not familar enough with site to know how to search how many times people have accused others of things, am more than happy to take your word for it been only 3times. Zero for me, Was having a look at forum, and saw gutshots name on abuse so thought I would check it out. Have had a look at a few other threads, there are so very active/paranoid people out there. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

No prob.

[apb23]

Also, Gutshots recently played another new recruit (http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=5046534) in game #5046534 today, in which he joined a noobs' British isles game. He is has only played on British Isles 30 times, and only 19 two player games. Gutshots deserves some type of warning, so that he does not continue this streak.

APB

P.S.
He joins other games with noobs too, but he plays a lot of games and speed games per day, so it is very hard to find them.

[the.killing.44]

but he plays a lot of games and speed games per day

Exactly. I don't think he cares who starts them, he just likes 1v1s.

.44

[apb23]

but he plays a lot of games and speed games per day

Exactly. I don't think he cares who starts them, he just likes 1v1s.

.44

True, but almost all of his games against new recruits are because he joins them, while most of his games are either huge assassin games or 1v1s he starts (recently king of the mountains).

[BoganGod]

When I'm trying a new map and considering joining a one on one on that map, I always map rank the opponent, don't look at there real rank but their winning percentage on the map, try and pick someone good but not great, so I learn something, without hopefully getting a spanking.

[apb23]

That's understandable, but what if it is someone playing their first game ever on CC, while it is your 6,000?

[oVo]

That's understandable, but what if it is someone playing their first game ever on CC, while it is your 6,000?

6000+ games and he's a Corporal ffs. He may have a 40% winrate,
but with the number of games played and that rank is hardly a farmer.

I think he is guilty of totally enjoying playing this game...
regardless of who the opposition is.

[Woodruff]

I think he is guilty of totally enjoying playing this game...

That dirty bastard!

[apb23]

That's understandable, but what if it is someone playing their first game ever on CC, while it is your 6,000?

6000+ games and he's a Corporal ffs. He may have a 40% winrate,
but with the number of games played and that rank is hardly a farmer.

I think he is guilty of totally enjoying playing this game...
regardless of who the opposition is.

His rank drops and raises numerous times. He was a lietenant two days ago, and I'm pretty sure that he's been a major. Besides, low ranks can be farmers (and he is not necessarily a low rank, especially considering with the majority of CC). Also, he may be enjoying himself, but to join games on places and settings that he hardly plays on when he has played over 6,000 games.

[ratdig04]

Can we please get a ruling on this so we can all finally realize hes done nothing wrong.

[lancehoch]

Gutshots is Noted for possible farming. At this time, it seems like those were a few isolated games, but now he is back to playing larger games against ranked players. If there is a future incident of farming, please report it here or make a new thread.

[apb23]

Thanks lancehoch.

[Bruceswar]

Gutshots is Noted for possible farming. At this time, it seems like those were a few isolated games, but now he is back to playing larger games against ranked players. If there is a future incident of farming, please report it here or make a new thread.

This is not farming... Come on... How many times do you see majors or anybody of rank open up a 1 vs 1 game? Most all the time it is Sgt's or less. When I look for 1 vs 1 games many times only games up on maps I like are ?'s and cooks. Should I not be allowed to play those games? I enjoy freestyle games, and yet 1 vs 1 freestyle is considered farming to most. So even if you look for 100 1 vs 1 seq or freestyle games, 95 of the 100 will be sgt or less, so that means roughly 20 to 50% (Just a guess by what I have seen) are going to be ?'s cadets, privates, or cooks. For anybody of my rank or close, that would be considered farming? You say open up a game then it is not farming. Personally I like the semi randomness of joining maps that others pick. If I picked it would be the same maps all the time.

[apb23]

See the posts before for more accurate numbers Bruce. Some of the maps that he joined on were ones that he seldom plays on and same with some of the settings. For someone who has played over 6,000 games, it is an interesting case.

[Bruceswar]

See the posts before for more accurate numbers Bruce. Some of the maps that he joined on were ones that he seldom plays on and same with some of the settings. For someone who has played over 6,000 games, it is an interesting case.

6000 games, means you try all settings, and all types of maps. Some you may not play as much as others. If you wanted to play a feudal game and had never played that map before (Many have not) Who would you want to join against? Someone who has played 3000 feudal games or someone who is also pretty new to it or first time on it. You would probably want to play someone closer to your skill level on that map and not someone who is gonna destroy you really quick. While you may be a major(just as an example), you might have never played a map before, thus you would be as good as any low rank on that same map.

[lancehoch]

Bruce, I said it was a few isolated games. But, if there are a few isolated games this week, then a few more next week, etc. it adds up over time. That is why it was noted.

[ratdig04]

Bruce, I said it was a few isolated games. But, if there are a few isolated games this week, then a few more next week, etc. it adds up over time. That is why it was noted.

So, if I play 7 games against new recruits out of lets say 50 this week, then 7 out of 50 next week, and so on for a month. That would be farming? 28 games out of 200... or am I not seeing that right.