owheelj wrote:I have no doubt that there was no conspiracy regarding 9/11 and that it was a terrorist attack carried out by Muslims. Almost every claim made by the 9/11 truth movement has been ridiculously easy to debunk. My favourites have been;
"The buildings fell at free fall speed." Actually they took twice as long to fall, as is easily verifiable watching the videos, where you can actually see bits falling off and falling faster than the collapsing speed.
"The collapse looked like controlled demolitions." I'd love to see a single example of a controlled demolition of a building collapsing from the top down. "Looked like" is not the as "were."
"Nanothermite was found at the buildings." Nanothermite largely being iron oxide (rust) and aluminium dust. Two materials that would probably be found at every single plane crash and building site in the world.
"Steel framed buildings have never collapsed by fire before." Quick research brings up plenty of examples of steel framed buildings collapsing due to fire in the past.
The thing that strikes me about these claims is just how incredibly easy they are to debunk. Some of them, like the second one I listed, must have either been said without doing any research at all, or deliberately made up. This makes me strongly sceptical of everything the 9/11 truth movement claims.
Without a doubt, none of these claims on the surface are in any way enough to argue some massive military operation to fake a terrorist attack, complete with hijacking planes and smashing them into the towers, only to blow them up.
However, there are some details that do make me nervous, and without a doubt they could be something else, but there are videos where you hear firefighters talking of secondary blasts. You do have the work that was done the weekend before, including the backup of all computer systems which was never done before. You also do have the guy that was leasing the buildings quoted as saying, he ok'd them to pull building 7. Then everybody evacuated, and the building collaped with the classic V in the center, and demolished into the center, the way buildings are demoed. It also did it on cue.
These are buildings that have been bombed before. They were arguably the most likely target for a terrorist operation in the world. If one of them fell over sideways, instead of crumbling straight down, the damage could have been much, much more severe, and the loss of life even more devastating.
I dont think its impossible in this situation, to imagine that the government, would take safety precautions, of fitting the buildings to be able to be dropped in an emergency. It would be a tough decision, and no one would ever want to be the one who had to make it, and it may even have been the correct one, but it certainly isnt that far fetched.
I hardly believe all the claims of conspiracy theorists, but at the same time, building 7 looked like a demo. They evacuated it, and it fell on cue. This was never mentioned in the 911 report. It just isnt all that hard to believe that it was actually dropped on purpose. That doesnt mean that the planes were part of the plan....the only thing that raises the hair on the back of my neck, is that they happened to be doing the construction the weekend before. Everyone was kicked out, and the cameras were turned off. There are people from the building quoted thinking it was all far out of the ordinary, and It certainly isnt impossible to imagine that 2 1000 foot buildings have a self-destruct built in, just in case of the unthinkable.
Because of the nature of conspiracy theories, there does tend to be polar disagreement, and each side exaggerates their case, and in doing so, harms it, buy going too far with some things, but to say there isnt anything suspicious at all, and that it isnt possible that something happened that the public doesn't know about, is equally naive.
If, hypothetically, someone did have to make a call to demo those buildings, because it was determined they might fall and do more damage, then its inherent that they would never, ever, ever hear the end of it. The lawsuits would be beyond belief, and it simply would never matter if it was the correct decision.
I think its insane to believe fully that the entire day was one perfectly orchestrated plan from the beginning. That the pentagon was hit by a missile, and that the other plane was not a plane, and that it was flown somewhere else. The reason is more the insanity that it would take to make a plan so utterly ridiculous, when it would just be easier to smash the planes in the first place. I do think its amazing that there wasnt more evidence from the planes, and considering the nature of the situation, it of course gives ample reason to investigate it...and because of the seriousness of the crime, it simply does deserve independent investigation.
I hate to simplify things like this, but the simplest explanation, often is the correct one. Hijackers hijacked those planes. They crashed them into the buildings. Building 7 seems to have been demolished professionally. If building 7 was wired to blow, it was probably done so previous to the day. If so, its very likely that the other buildings were wired to blow too, in case of an emergency. All speculation, but not at all impossible to believe given the situation.
Now possibly, someone had to give the order, and killed countless people that could have been saved, and possibly someone gave the order, and saved countless people that could not.
It of course is still very possible, that smashing an entire buildings corner with a jumbo jet, with full tanks of fuel, would bring the structure down eventually. To think that is impossible is equally insane. The fact that the second building fell first, and that it was the one that was hit lower, ie more weight on its compromised area, makes perfect sense. What looked like secondary explosions could have been air, which obviously had to go somewhere, and the burning that continued for days, could simply have been a result of the lack of oxygen and remaining fuel sources covered by two 1000 buildings.
Unfortunately, people in this world do horrible, unthinkable things. People in power have the power to do even more horrible and unthinkable things. We cant ever assume that they wont, and I too love the people willing to be called "crazy" who spend their lives assuring they dont get away with those things. Unfortunately, some spend their lives believing events that simply never happened.
I myself will always keep an open mind on the subject. I discount what I think are the most extreme arguments on both sides, and am left with an uneasiness that I do not enjoy. Its difficult to believe that humans would conspire to crash planes into buildings trying to kill tens of thousands of lives. At the same time, someone did.
