Order of the Stick Mafia win!

[MeDeFe]

I will follow the reasoning for lack of anything better to do and also because I'm tired and have had a few beers. Oh, and it was rather convincing.

vote /

[spiesr]

I can tell I am the best lead for today, so if you wish for me to claim and save you the trouble of wasting valuable discussion time, I will.

Go ahead...

[pmchugh]

Hmmm.... Well, for the first part I hopped the bandwagon because of the Mafia community being so inactive these days, just look at how many games day ones ended with a no lynch, it's ridiculous, it may be scummy but it's neccesary gameplay, it no one is scummy, lynch someone random (or at least get a claim out of them) anything for evidence, otherwise the day is void and the killers get a head start.

Honestly I have no valid justification for any of my other actions, and I completely agree it was scummy. I didn't vote because I have little knowledge of the roles, and I didn't want to hammer when others here have a better idea of the setup than me. I can tell I am the best lead for today, so if you wish for me to claim and save you the trouble of wasting valuable discussion time, I will.

Wow brutal honesty or playing the passive card? I am not sure how to take this. It could be a bluff but what are the odds that people would back down? IMO no one would take such a risk without a solid claim but then again you were going to get bandwaggoned regardless of what you said, fircoals case was simply too good when we have no other options presented

unvote for now.

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I'm Haley, a tracker, Last night I tracked William he didn't go anywhere.

[pmchugh]

I'm Haley, a tracker, Last night I tracked William he didn't go anywhere.

Intresting, although I disagree with the early claim discussion is always good. Two questions though:

Will can you confirm that you went nowhere last night?
Is this Haley character one who is likely to be in the game and a townie?

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Haley is one of the six main characters, I would have near 100% chance of being counterclaimed if i were lying.
I hope we have a doc, for someone to claim cop day one, then be roleblocked, attacked and passed over for protection. I wonder if I have any chance?

[pmchugh]

Haley is one of the six main characters, I would have near 100% chance of being counterclaimed if i were lying.
I hope we have a doc, for someone to claim cop day one, then be roleblocked, attacked and passed over for protection. I wonder if I have any chance?

I checked out wikipedia and you claim checks out, presuming you aren't counter claimed.

[Fircoal]

I'm Haley, a tracker, Last night I tracked William he didn't go anywhere.

While I do realize that she is a main character and she is bound to be in it. I don't know if this claim is reliable. Haley really isn't much of a tracker IMO. Espeically when in the comic they never have her tracker and supposedly, Belkar was hired as the tracker. (Of course that was Roy's big mistake) Somehow I think this is a lure.

Also yes I've been reading too much Oots. I started from around 520 where I left off a couple of days ago, got caught up and then decided to read it all over again. XD

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Well, Belkar was a ranger in the series (and a day vig in this game), Haley was a scout, she was good at stealth and evasion, would you presume someone else more likely to have the role tracker? or perhaps a more appropriate role for said character?

[william18]

I'm Haley, a tracker, Last night I tracked William he didn't go anywhere.

Intresting, although I disagree with the early claim discussion is always good. Two questions though:

Will can you confirm that you went nowhere last night?
Is this Haley character one who is likely to be in the game and a townie?

Yeppers.

I find it interesting that / targeted me. What was your motivation?

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Not much, you were the only one to unvote off Sheep before he was lynched, I was still a bit suspicious of GA, but I had assumed that if GA were lying he would be investigated by the real cop anyways, not much to by a tracker result unless you are trying to prove he had no action.

[spiesr]

Claim seems okay so unvote then.

[Iliad]

Vote count
/-2 Fircoal, Medefe

takes 6 to lynch

[Stroop]

Is this Haley character one who is likely to be in the game and a townie?

Oh yes, very likely.

I am Haley. I'm not sure I should reveal my role, but I will if you people want me to.

vote /

[AceArtemis]

Is this Haley character one who is likely to be in the game and a townie?

Oh yes, very likely.

I am Haley. I'm not sure I should reveal my role, but I will if you people want me to.

vote /

I doubt Stroop would false counter-claim here, so I'm going to go with /. Vote: /

[Iliad]

Vote count
/-2 Fircoal, Medefe, stroop, aceartemis

takes 6 to lynch

[MeDeFe]

stroop and ace both voted to lynch Xykon "yesterday", that lends some credibility to stroop's claim and ace doesn't look like he's bandwagoning or something, unless this is a very elaborate ruse.

[pmchugh]

I see no reason why stroop would lie, scum for a tracker would not be a good trade.

unvote vote /

[william18]

People, lets not forget that / got my night action correct. There has to be some credibility there.

[pmchugh]

People, lets not forget that / got my night action correct. There has to be some credibility there.

Mafia tracker or cop, or you are his scum buddy there are plenty of things that could account for that. He has been counterclaimed, I can't see any reason to keep him alive.

[spiesr]

So, should I hammer or do we yet him get a response statement in first?

[Fircoal]

So, should I hammer or do we yet him get a response statement in first?

Response statement, there is no reason to pass up what could give us knowledge.

And I believe Stroop is most likely Haley, do the fact that I don't think Haley is a tracker and it was more a ploy to get the real Haley out.

[nagerous]

People, lets not forget that / got my night action correct. There has to be some credibility there.

Mafia tracker or cop, or you are his scum buddy there are plenty of things that could account for that. He has been counterclaimed, I can't see any reason to keep him alive.

Long-shot I know but is there any chance that Stroop could be lyncher. For those more knowledgeable about the theme, is there anyone who particularly targets this Haley character. I would hate to see a tracker gone especially after such a terrible night.

The wikipedia says:

Haley Starshine (Human Rogue, "Chaotic Good-ish"[n 26]): The Order's second-in-command,[n 27] she is skilled in stealth and deception, often serving as a scout for the party.

The scout part links well with the tracker claim, plus the fact that william18's night action was correct. Regardless, this appears like a win-win situation.

[MeDeFe]

People, lets not forget that / got my night action correct. There has to be some credibility there.

Mafia tracker or cop, or you are his scum buddy there are plenty of things that could account for that. He has been counterclaimed, I can't see any reason to keep him alive.

Long-shot I know but is there any chance that Stroop could be lyncher. For those more knowledgeable about the theme, is there anyone who particularly targets this Haley character. I would hate to see a tracker gone especially after such a terrible night.

The wikipedia says:

Haley Starshine (Human Rogue, "Chaotic Good-ish"[n 26]): The Order's second-in-command,[n 27] she is skilled in stealth and deception, often serving as a scout for the party.

The scout part links well with the tracker claim, plus the fact that william18's night action was correct. Regardless, this appears like a win-win situation.

Haley does have an arch-enemy in the webcomic.

[Stroop]

People, lets not forget that / got my night action correct. There has to be some credibility there.

Mafia tracker or cop, or you are his scum buddy there are plenty of things that could account for that. He has been counterclaimed, I can't see any reason to keep him alive.

Long-shot I know but is there any chance that Stroop could be lyncher. For those more knowledgeable about the theme, is there anyone who particularly targets this Haley character. I would hate to see a tracker gone especially after such a terrible night.

There is, actually. Crystal from the Thieves' Guild wants to kill Haley.

The wikipedia says:

Haley Starshine (Human Rogue, "Chaotic Good-ish"[n 26]): The Order's second-in-command,[n 27] she is skilled in stealth and deception, often serving as a scout for the party.

The scout part links well with the tracker claim, plus the fact that william18's night action was correct. Regardless, this appears like a win-win situation.

Well, like I said, if you people want me to give you a full claim, I will. You can compare how our claims fit the theme then. I would rather not claim though, if it can be prevented.