Soon To Be Permaband

[King_Herpes]

They just need something to get into, like arts and crafts or something, maybe pottery.

This is the best advice I've read from this entire thread. Now maybe we should all calm down and enjoy ourselves a nice bowl of raspberries.

[sinctheassasin]

They just need something to get into, like arts and crafts or something, maybe pottery.

This is the best advice I've read from this entire thread. Now maybe we should all calm down and enjoy ourselves a nice bowl of raspberries.

I like raspberries!

Anyway, I agree with mini, this is a stupid thread.

[AAFitz]

MOD EDIT


Goodbye Crool World
Honibaz

Aside from one post out of the last dozen, I'd say this topic is sufficiently off topic.


--Andy

Lmao, this was funny as hell. I've only got through the first page, and this thread already has me cracking up.


Ok, now let me say something on topic. I'm going to try to be neutral here, which I think is where I am. On the one hand, whenever I've pm'd mods directly I've always gotten a response. The ones I know are usually friendly and seem to be nice people. On the other hand, this banning stuff is starting to bother me. I see threads everyday. 1 day bans, perma bans, and some of them 'appear' based on the little information that I have to be not befitting of the crime. I would like to see admin cut back a little with this, but then again that is not my decision to make, and I don't have all the information that they do.

Yes, but at the same time... you also will find a lot less flaming and personal attacks. Im hardly saying ban more, but I dont think there is anyone that questions their resolve. Its honestly only such a change, because it really got so much further out of hand, than any professional gaming site would have allowed for so long. I admit it was fun, and part of me misses it, but this is a little more grown up, and just from an educational stand point, it has to be better for any kids that are playing and reading.

I posted this before, but the main reason I believe that the changes took place, are simply because the owner(s) simply didnt want to be associated, let alone be responsible for some of the really nasty posts and threads that were being made. It was getting like new york before the ghostbusters came in and saved the day from the toxic negativity. This is without a doubt a transition period. I have no doubt that the forum will simply find its own rythym again. I admit that some may leave to find a more free open forum, but I think most of them were here, because they couldnt find that anywhere else...certainly not on a gaming site with a game as good as this one.

So, Id hate to see all banned too, but it is nice to see that now open personal attacks, ridiculous profanity, incessant spamming usually meant to annoy, and bigotry most of all do not clutter the forum.

No longer are posters afraid to post their opinion, because 5 kids will come in and harrass them beyond all reasonable ediquite on a professional game site. Those that are just here to release their anger simply have to find another way to express it.

It is unfortunate, that it does constrain us all to a degree, but like cheaters ruin the game, so do the posters that cant control themselves and ruin it for everyone.

In the end, those that like the game and the community will stay and enjoy, and those that dont will eventually move on to complain about something else, or even stay here and complain, but will be forced to do so within the posting guidelines.

Really, for the 99.99999% who wont ever read that. CC is just a little more grown up than it was before.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

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Reason: This post is a flame.This poster is trolling. My first complaint ever. This guy/gal is derailing, spamming and flaming a thread to intimidate B.K.Barunt into retaliation. He's baiting this guy, so he'll be perma-banned.

It's very apparent and even a blind man can see this.




YES! I made my first "push that abuse button" game!

Look at everyone trying to derail B.K. Barent's thread. It's just like days of old, when every Moderator's groupie went out of their way to derail threads that were pro-Flame forum. Did any of these brown-noses receive bans? NO!

Bias is the name of the game here, boys and girls. Right now we have several posters that are doing everything to perma-ban B.K.Barunt and to derail this thread.

Shame, shame and more shame,
General Stoneham

[AAFitz]

I want the membership to see why i was really permabanned when it happens. Fitz talks about all the filthy flames i'm guilty of and i know i've been guilty of such, but since my 1 week banz i don't recall really, i mean really flaming anyone.
Maybe fitz could show me one? He maintains (amazing fitz has to speak for andy) that the banz was justified by "other" posts, i'd like to see one from the time period we're talking about. I know he has the computer skills as he made quite a collage of quotes for me once, which is why he is my favorite of the admin's boys.
Don't let me down fitz.


Honibaz

Once again, I do not remember using the words "filthy" flames, and I fully agree that I have not seen one instance of flaming or a real personal attack since your ban.

There was that one thread, where you were making fun of a 13 year old for being a little excited about beating a general and making a thread, but that was no where near a flame...and was really just funny to see.

The threads I remember off the top of my head, did include some personal attacks, perhaps even the open one against me stuck in my mind. I remember one against Andy too, and some random ones beyond that. I may or may not go through the trouble of finding them, and since it was a month ago, Im sorry I dont remember, but as I said, I knew when you hadnt posted for a day or two that you had been banned, and I remember not being surprised at all. Sorry I dont have more. Also, I am not saying you necessarily should have been banned. Im not accusing you of anything. I only posted that I was not surprised.

I cant start quoting your flaming, because it will look like I am saying what is acceptable, and what isnt and its really not my job to decide. I was only saying that what I saw, was enough not to be surprised that you were banned, but mostly, because I think you had just been banned which was clearly meant as a warning.

Either way... the difference in this conversation is huge. You disagree with me, and perhaps vice versa and thats what the forum is for. But the lack of personal attacks is a nice touch, and certainly makes it easier to understand your main point. Ironically, in that thread that you ultimately got banned for, I meant it as a discussion and simple counter point. It was you that took it completely personally, and as some kind of personal attack, which if you actually read it, was clear. Hell, from my point of view, I was actually trying to help you see that, but in the end, it seems you perhaps got a bit carried away, and no doubt, misunderstood, however much of my actual posts you read.

Either way, its a simple rule to not be perma bannned. Cut it with the personal attacks and flaming. You can then disagree, and post whatever you want for the most part, and get whatever message you want to get across...or at least posted.

[Timminz]

But what is obviously going on here is just some good ol' fashioned attention seeking by people who likely don't get enough in the non-CC areas of their lives. They just need something to get into, like arts and crafts or something, maybe pottery.

Obvious baiting.

But don't worry. It's not the kind that will get you in trouble.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

AaFitz says this and that and.......
Either way, its a simple rule to not be perma bannned. Cut it with the personal attacks and flaming. You can then disagree, and post whatever you want for the most part, and get whatever message you want to get across...or at least posted.
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Poor AaFitz, needs to write a darn "War and Peace: saga to try to get his repetitive personal attacks against B.K.Barunt across.

How can someone say so much, yet say so little.

The flaming, trolling and of course baiting is allowed, if you're on the "rightside" of the Moderators.

Just because you don't use naughty words or say something with a personal slight, it still can be very insulting to read all this crap by those who clearly are defending the Moderators.

Now I want everyone on the "rightside" to wash that fecal matter off their noses. Don't worry, C.C. will reward your loyalty at a later date.

Shame, shame and more shame, on top of the shame,
General Stoneham

[targetman377]

Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.

The answer to your question is simple: you don't pay for the forum. Multis are kicked out of their games, so they get 1 chance to buy back in as their punishment. In the forums, there are multiple warnings and small vacations before a large one, and no money is paid to participate on the forums, so there's no reason to be allowed to pay in order to come back. In fact, I would contend that it would increase the number of complaints regarding bans because then the people would complain that the bans are being used to increase revenue (and we all know they would cry out). Really, it's not a hard concept to understand.

As far as you getting permabanned (the correct spelling), I guess you're in luck. Didn't the public convince Andy to drop the maximum discipline length for a minor infraction to 6 months?

for minor infractions, yes. The perma ban option is still available for those who simply wont learn, or clearly go well beyond minor infractions.

Personally, I don't see why bk is acting so innocent and victim-like.
Although his "knotty" comment was not 30 day ban material, from what I have seen, he flames/trolls anybody who disagrees with him. He litters the forum with his bitching, and is keen to derail a topic as soon as he sees an opening where he can flame, troll, or simply be somewhat of a nuiscance...

Even if some of his flames are funny ( which I admit, most are) many are unneccesary, and neither add to the discussion norbenefit anybody but himself.

The smart, mature way to handle it ( although maybe less satisfying to those testosterone pumped "alpha" males) would have been to pm another mod and discuss it, and possibly bring lack and Andy in too, if they had the time.

You also could relieve your trolling desires on many other sites, that have less consequences, and possibly more angering effects, which I presume is your motive (pissing people off while you have a good laugh)

for example, facebook and myspace are great place to flame. Lots of people, nothing they can really take away. There are billions of forums out their for people like you... I bet you could find an entire forum dedicated to flaming, where they might ban you for being nice.

If you really want to flame me about this post, go ahead, but remember I have done nothin to you

well put sinctheassasin i agree with what you just said 120%

[targetman377]

Targetman and Kotaro have done nothing but spam, bait and flame in this thread. The things that they constantly condemn is just what they're doing. Seeing that NS has posted in this thread, and the fact that it's continued, I must assume that the mods are simply ignoring that issue. Sad, really... Could the favouritism be anymore obvious?

hector i am not spamming the thread nor am i flaming anyone i am simple disagree with honzibal that his ban is unfair and is a victim in this whole thing i am staying on topic. the second anyone disagrees with you guys you immediately say that i am derailing the thread i am not nor have i flamed anyone.

[notyou2]

I started the "knickers in a knot" thread to prove a point. I fail to see the difference between the 2 phrases. But, perhaps BK's phrase was not the reason for the ban, though it appears to be.

Can someone, in authority, please advise the difference between the phrases and why when one poster uses it in a thread, and another uses it as the title of the thread, one is banned and one is not even notified in any way, shape, or form, and in fact one moderator took part in the thread repeatedly.

I'm as confused as the moderators appear to be.

[targetman377]

MOD EDIT


Goodbye Crool World
Honibaz

Aside from one post out of the last dozen, I'd say this topic is sufficiently off topic.


--Andy

Lmao, this was funny as hell. I've only got through the first page, and this thread already has me cracking up.


Ok, now let me say something on topic. I'm going to try to be neutral here, which I think is where I am. On the one hand, whenever I've pm'd mods directly I've always gotten a response. The ones I know are usually friendly and seem to be nice people. On the other hand, this banning stuff is starting to bother me. I see threads everyday. 1 day bans, perma bans, and some of them 'appear' based on the little information that I have to be not befitting of the crime. I would like to see admin cut back a little with this, but then again that is not my decision to make, and I don't have all the information that they do.

Yes, but at the same time... you also will find a lot less flaming and personal attacks. Im hardly saying ban more, but I dont think there is anyone that questions their resolve. Its honestly only such a change, because it really got so much further out of hand, than any professional gaming site would have allowed for so long. I admit it was fun, and part of me misses it, but this is a little more grown up, and just from an educational stand point, it has to be better for any kids that are playing and reading.

I posted this before, but the main reason I believe that the changes took place, are simply because the owner(s) simply didnt want to be associated, let alone be responsible for some of the really nasty posts and threads that were being made. It was getting like new york before the ghostbusters came in and saved the day from the toxic negativity. This is without a doubt a transition period. I have no doubt that the forum will simply find its own rythym again. I admit that some may leave to find a more free open forum, but I think most of them were here, because they couldnt find that anywhere else...certainly not on a gaming site with a game as good as this one.

So, Id hate to see all banned too, but it is nice to see that now open personal attacks, ridiculous profanity, incessant spamming usually meant to annoy, and bigotry most of all do not clutter the forum.

No longer are posters afraid to post their opinion, because 5 kids will come in and harrass them beyond all reasonable ediquite on a professional game site. Those that are just here to release their anger simply have to find another way to express it.

It is unfortunate, that it does constrain us all to a degree, but like cheaters ruin the game, so do the posters that cant control themselves and ruin it for everyone.

In the end, those that like the game and the community will stay and enjoy, and those that dont will eventually move on to complain about something else, or even stay here and complain, but will be forced to do so within the posting guidelines.

Really, for the 99.99999% who wont ever read that. CC is just a little more grown up than it was before.

thank you it needed to be said

[targetman377]

This is for those of you who refuse to believe that our beloved admins abuse their authority here in banning those they just don't like.

I received a 30 day ban - which i just returned from - for telling aafitz that he was behaving "like a little girl with her panties in a wad". Fitz himself PMed me when he found out, apologizing and assuring me it wasn't him that reported it - i already knew that. It was andydufresne waiting and watching intently for anything he could nail me on.

Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.

Right now, at this present time, there is a thread about people getting their "knickers in a knot" here on this forum. Will they be disciplined for it? What's the difference between "panties in a wad" and "knickers in a knot"?
You tell me.

I just caught andy in a lie on xelabale's "Post Poll" thread and being the dastardly dude that i am i rubbed his face in it. So . . . <starts singing I'll be seeing you>

Just so y'all know how things work here.


Goodbye Crool World
Honibaz

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Reason: This post is a flame.This poster is trolling. My first complaint ever. This guy/gal is derailing, spamming and flaming a thread to intimidate B.K.Barunt into retaliation. He's baiting this guy, so he'll be perma-banned.

It's very apparent and even a blind man can see this.




YES! I made my first "push that abuse button" game!

Look at everyone trying to derail B.K. Barent's thread. It's just like days of old, when every Moderator's groupie went out of their way to derail threads that were pro-Flame forum. Did any of these brown-noses receive bans? NO!

Bias is the name of the game here, boys and girls. Right now we have several posters that are doing everything to perma-ban B.K.Barunt and to derail this thread.

Shame, shame and more shame,
General Stoneham

that is the origianal post General stoneham and we are not off topic. BK said that he was a victim in all of this and did nothing wrong. we are disagree with him on this and you think that we are derailing this thread? i am not trying to bait anyone here i am simple saying YOU ARE WRONG!!! last time i cheeked TELLING SOMEONE there wrong is not BAITING ok or everyone in turtle soup would be banned cause that all they do there!!!!!! the fact of the matter is this Hezoblar says that the admins are favoring people that stand up for them. WE ARE TELLING HIM HE IS DOING THE SAME THING when someone disagrees with him he just labels us a troll or foe's us.if that is not picking favorites than i don't know what is

[targetman377]

I started the "knickers in a knot" thread to prove a point. I fail to see the difference between the 2 phrases. But, perhaps BK's phrase was not the reason for the ban, though it appears to be.

Can someone, in authority, please advise the difference between the phrases and why when one poster uses it in a thread, and another uses it as the title of the thread, one is banned and one is not even notified in any way, shape, or form, and in fact one moderator took part in the thread repeatedly.

I'm as confused as the moderators appear to be.

the difference i think is clear you used it as your title of the thread you did not tell some that they were. but i am confused to. by that i will agree if the reason that BK was banned on that ONE POST then his ban is unfair however during that time he was spamming and derailing threads also which needs to be brought in to light also. and BK's past has something to do with it he has been banned before the reason the same you should not just go back to your old posting habits you WILL get banned again

[Georgerx7di]

Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.

The answer to your question is simple: you don't pay for the forum. Multis are kicked out of their games, so they get 1 chance to buy back in as their punishment. In the forums, there are multiple warnings and small vacations before a large one, and no money is paid to participate on the forums, so there's no reason to be allowed to pay in order to come back. In fact, I would contend that it would increase the number of complaints regarding bans because then the people would complain that the bans are being used to increase revenue (and we all know they would cry out). Really, it's not a hard concept to understand.

As far as you getting permabanned (the correct spelling), I guess you're in luck. Didn't the public convince Andy to drop the maximum discipline length for a minor infraction to 6 months?

You know it's scary, but in the short lifespan i have left here i might get to actually like you. This is the second time you have stepped in and done the right (and i must say efficient) thing when andy would not. That is a well thought out and i must admit plausible answer - you must share it with andy (yeah i know, he already knew it - i don't believe you and i'm not alone). It's plausible enough that i can accept it. I still think it's wrong for andy to foist cheaters on us to make a few extra bucks, but i can see the logic in your argument insofar as why he doesn't have to do the same for flamers.

As much as i admire your stepping in, i despise andy's lack of respect for the membership here. There were a number of people who asked that question and not just "troublemakers" like me. I consider his lack of response to it to be uncivil and cowardly, and my outspokeness on that is why i made this thread.

I want the membership to see why i was really permabanned when it happens. Fitz talks about all the filthy flames i'm guilty of and i know i've been guilty of such, but since my 1 week banz i don't recall really, i mean really flaming anyone.
Maybe fitz could show me one? He maintains (amazing fitz has to speak for andy) that the banz was justified by "other" posts, i'd like to see one from the time period we're talking about. I know he has the computer skills as he made quite a collage of quotes for me once, which is why he is my favorite of the admin's boys.
Don't let me down fitz.


Honibaz

To sum up what he said above, BK claims not to have flamed anyone since his 1 week ban.

Then this

I'm off from work for a few days.





Joking. There was recently that woodruff thread where he had "had enough". It was on page 12 and had degenerated into random bullshit. I was just thinking the day before that someone should lock that piece. I think andy locked it at the right time.
There should be some leeway for threads, but they shouldn't go on forever.

Pretty shoddy attempt to bail andy out there, but i'm sure you'll get brownie points for it nonetheless.

You were "just thinking the day before" - really??! Strange, as today Aug. 31 at 5:19 AM is when it went off topic with theprowler's post. The post prior to that was Chaosfactor denying that it was him that threatened Woodruff. Like i said, pretty shoddy. Andy locked it at 3:45 PM today, which seems somewhat contradictory to andy's "a couple days" - this wasn't even 12 fooking hrs! No "reminder" from a mod either, as andy could've done without locking it.

This is a perfect example of the hypocritical heavy handed modding here, and also a good example of how they always have a brownnosing shill waiting in the wings to back them up.


Really soon to be permaband
Honibaz

From this thread
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 3&start=15

He clearly appears to be flaming me here. I don't know this guy, and as best as I can remember have never had ill words before with him. Just happened to be posting in the same thread, which was about off topic threads being locked. Anyway, this is hypocritical. This guy claims that he doesn't flame anymore, and then for no apparent reason flames me. And if he does get banned again, he or someone else will claim that it was for no reason. I'm not saying all bans are right, but in this case I could see why this guy has been banned so many times.

[niMic]

b.k. barunt does seem to have a seriously inflated ego. As far as I know (and honestly I don't really know far at all), the world doesn't revolve around you, nor does CC. I would continue, but my Moderator puppet masters (All Hail the Moderators) have asked (read: told) me to go easy on you yet, and then later attack, spam, (pillage, murder) and generally be a pain in furious and quite un-righteous Mod-Sanctioned anger.

You are warned (not that there is anything you can do about the matter; your fate is sealed, dissident).

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Here's the scoop on the BIG CRIME that that evil B.K.Barunt is guilty of! Please, if you're under the age of 13, please leave the room or building immediately!
Don't look at the monitor, please unplug your computer now as we are approaching FLAMING at it's worse!

Georgerx7di wrote:
I'm off from work for a few days.





Joking. There was recently that woodruff thread where he had "had enough". It was on page 12 and had degenerated into random bullshit. I was just thinking the day before that someone should lock that piece. I think andy locked it at the right time.
There should be some leeway for threads, but they shouldn't go on forever.
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b.k.barunt wrote:
Pretty shoddy attempt to bail andy out there, but i'm sure you'll get brownie points for it nonetheless.

You were "just thinking the day before" - really??! Strange, as today Aug. 31 at 5:19 AM is when it went off topic with theprowler's post. The post prior to that was Chaosfactor denying that it was him that threatened Woodruff. Like i said, pretty shoddy. Andy locked it at 3:45 PM today, which seems somewhat contradictory to andy's "a couple days" - this wasn't even 12 fooking hrs! No "reminder" from a mod either, as andy could've done without locking it.

This is a perfect example of the hypocritical heavy handed modding here, and also a good example of how they always have a brownnosing shill waiting in the wings to back them up.


Really soon to be permaband
Honibaz



Well, I think someone owes B.K.Barunt an apology. Where's the flame? Is it the same needling you do whenever you get your pants in a........

Sick, sick and on top of more sick,
General Stoneham

[hecter]

hector i am not spamming the thread nor am i flaming anyone i am simple disagree with honzibal that his ban is unfair and is a victim in this whole thing i am staying on topic. the second anyone disagrees with you guys you immediately say that i am derailing the thread i am not nor have i flamed anyone.

O rly?

i am on his foe list and i am happy about that!!!!!! at least i think . B.K needs to grow up and stop wasting space here and leave maybe it has something to do with the fact that he is a troll. complains about anything like i said before GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE you are not immune to punishment. and when you do get punished and YOU KNOW!!!! yes B.K does know what he gets banned for and no its not for questioning authority!! when you continue to walk on the line and think you are not crossing it that is breaking the rules. JUST stop i don't even want to read another one of his dumb threads.

That doesn't constitute flaming? You certainly weren't nice. I mean, saying he's a waste of space? That's pretty hurtful...

good one Kotaro

thank you it needed to be said

i know i mean NO FLAMING is so confusing as a rule right!

Know what else is a confusing rule?

Subject: Community Guidelines

Spam is posting for the sole intention of being annoying.
There are a million ways you shouldn't be annoying, but ones worth mentioning:

• ...
  • "QFE", "QFT" etc. do not qualify as "a meaningful post", add why you agree with the quote.
• Posting only, or lots of, smilies.
• Posting about yourself in a thread that is not specifically about you.
• ...

[AAFitz]

I think what really is funny about the whole situation of banning, is that those being banned seem to be complaining that there are too many bans, but at the same time are arguing that others should be banned. Most wont come right out and say it of course, because by default, if they say "player x" should be banned, and "player x" hasnt said anything as bad as they have, which is typically the case, than it justifies the ban on them even more than it did in the first place.

Instead, hints of favoritism are suggested, and mod pets etc, but not once does a "bannee" post a direct quote of what someone should be banned for. The reason of course, is that most stay within they guidelines, they arent making personal attacks, and to date, that has been what most every ban has been for.

I hate to use an analogy here, because its fairly uneccessary, but its like the guy that just got pulled over and issued a ticket for going 90mph, and pointing over at the guy going 66mph. The more he argues the guy going 66 deserves a ticket for speeding, the more he argues that he deserves one himself. Further, in this case, most of them are arguing that 90mph should be ok at the same time.

So, to those that think the mods are being unfair and not banning enough people, I suggest posting who you think deserves a ban and for what, instead of crying favoritism, unless of course you actually think that the bans are actually justified, and that more simply should be handed out. Simply put, you cant have it both ways. You really cant argue that there are way too many bans, and at the same time that far too many other people are flaming others and deserve bans. Certainly, examples of a player going too far can be posted, but again, its usually a self defeating argument unless in the case of the analogy, someone gets a ticket for going 67, and the other person gets off for going 66. If you want the person to get a ban for 66, you admit that 67 deserves one, but at least that does ask for a reasonable amount of fairness. The key is using the radar to compare the two speeds...which as I said, typically isnt done.

[Kotaro]

Oh no hecter. He stated that the guy was WASTING SPACE?!? What a serious offense. Calling his multiple thread about bitching about a ban dumb? Stating a fact, that he is a troll?!?

WHAT SERIOUS FLAMES!! This must be treated like a national security risk. Now.

Soon to be banned isn't soon enough.

As for spam, this whole thread is spam. b.k. is a spammer. Get over it.

[BoganGod]

Kotaro your been way to harsh. BK is not a spammer, he is just a poor misunderstood homophobic gent, who prefers to say not play. CC is a broad church, surely there is room for a minor bigot to say witty off topic things. He has toned down on his gay hate in recent months. I would hate to see him banned, as at least 1/8th of what he/she/it says is funny.

Last thing I would like to see is multiple threads devoted to "Bring back BK" here is hoping he/she/it doesn't become the next dancingmustard.

[jefjef]

his post was made by Kotaro who is currently on your ignore list........ This troll is soon to be banned. (Being monitored VERY closely as per good inside info) Keep it talking & posting BK. As for BK soon to be banned maybe CC will see their own double standards.

[BoganGod]

his post was made by Kotaro who is currently on your ignore list........ This troll is soon to be banned. (Being monitored VERY closely as per good inside info) Keep it talking & posting BK. As for BK soon to be banned maybe CC will see their own double standards.

JefJef my naive young friend, CC noting double standards will happen after america wins the war on "terror/everything", and after the proverbial camel walks through the eye of a needle, not a minute before. Whilst teenagers/children are mods, CC will continue to be run in an emotional kneejerk reactionary fashion without any consistency.

[Kotaro]

Last thing I would like to see is multiple threads devoted to "Bring back BK" here is hoping he/she/it doesn't become the next dancingmustard.

Dancingmustard, while a spammer, was not a troll. Bk is, as you state, a bigot, racist, none contributing member of CC. Hell, he doesn't even play games. It's really pathetic, and one wonders why he sticks around, or how he even noticed he was banned for 30 days.

And don't quite jefjef's posts, it makes you look dumber by association.

[jefjef]

his post was made by Kotaro who is currently on your ignore list........ This troll is soon to be banned. (Being monitored VERY closely as per good inside info) Keep it talking & posting BK. As for BK soon to be banned maybe CC will see their own double standards.

JefJef my naive young friend, CC noting double standards will happen after america wins the war on "terror/everything", and after the proverbial camel walks through the eye of a needle, not a minute before. Whilst teenagers/children are mods, CC will continue to be run in an emotional kneejerk reactionary fashion without any consistency.

You are correct Bogan. But even they grow tired of kotaro as many of us have.

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I think what really is funny about the whole situation of banning, is that those being banned seem to be complaining that there are too many bans, but at the same time are arguing that others should be banned. Most wont come right out and say it of course, because by default, if they say "player x" should be banned, and "player x" hasnt said anything as bad as they have, which is typically the case, than it justifies the ban on them even more than it did in the first place.

Instead, hints of favoritism are suggested, and mod pets etc, but not once does a "bannee" post a direct quote of what someone should be banned for. The reason of course, is that most stay within they guidelines, they arent making personal attacks, and to date, that has been what most every ban has been for.

I hate to use an analogy here, because its fairly uneccessary, but its like the guy that just got pulled over and issued a ticket for going 90mph, and pointing over at the guy going 66mph. The more he argues the guy going 66 deserves a ticket for speeding, the more he argues that he deserves one himself. Further, in this case, most of them are arguing that 90mph should be ok at the same time.

So, to those that think the mods are being unfair and not banning enough people, I suggest posting who you think deserves a ban and for what, instead of crying favoritism, unless of course you actually think that the bans are actually justified, and that more simply should be handed out. Simply put, you cant have it both ways. You really cant argue that there are way too many bans, and at the same time that far too many other people are flaming others and deserve bans. Certainly, examples of a player going too far can be posted, but again, its usually a self defeating argument unless in the case of the analogy, someone gets a ticket for going 67, and the other person gets off for going 66. If you want the person to get a ban for 66, you admit that 67 deserves one, but at least that does ask for a reasonable amount of fairness. The key is using the radar to compare the two speeds...which as I said, typically isnt done.

AA I doubt many paople read what you write, but surprisingly I did. Who's asking for people to be banned? Saying there is favouritism does not equate to wanting others banned. It's asking for equal treatment, that's all. If everyone got banned for flaming equally, then that would be a different issue. As it stands some get punished, others don't - for the same thing. You don't see that as unfair? If you get banned, then you see someone doing the same thing you did and nothing happening, won't you get pissed off? Then there are 2 solutions - ban everyone who does it, or don't ban anyone and apologise to those you banned. So ask yourself a question, have you seen more "ban everyone" threads, or more "reinstate so and so" threads?

The reason you don't see quotes saying what bad things other people said is because they don't want to get others banned.

Your analogy is inaccurate. Take kotaro's contribution to this thread. If you were being kind you could say that at the minimum he's baiting BK in order to get him banned, at the minimum. If BK's going 90, kotaro's driving next to him on the wrong side of the road giving him the finger, and no-one seems to care. Additionally, no-one's told us what the speed limit is. All we know is that 70 is definitely ok, 100 definitely not, and in between is the mod's to do with as they see fit. In fact, there's different speed limits for different people.