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And yet, you're a fan of SultanofSurreal, a prime example of this?thegreekdog wrote:I've been reading through some of the C&A and General Discussion fora recently and I've noticed a growing trend. Namely, there is a trend of people being complete assholes to others. This trend is ultimately disturbing to me, mostly because newer/inexperienced players (or players looking for help) are the targets of this assholery. I question whether the same comments would be made in real life to the people (I suspect the answer is no). I understand that there is leniency with respect to these types of comments on this site (and others), but without provocation these types of comments are destructive and unnecessary.
An example from youtube.com really caught my attention. I unfortunately no longer have the link, but there was a young boy (probably 10 or 11) who posted a video of himself talking about Ken Griffey Jr. and how great a baseball player he was. Among the comments was a wonderful sentence by a user that said, "f*ck off you piece of shit. Get a real life you fat f*ck." It angered me that someone (whether a teenager or an adult) would decide this was a good idea and a worthwhile thing to post.
Is anyone else disturbed by this sort of thing? Does anyone see this kind of internet ridiculousness popping up in real life?
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
Agreed. I can be an asshole on CC, but I'm nice IRL, I promise.Frigidus wrote:I personally like being able to be more frank with people on the internet is a good thing. I couldn't imagine having a passionate argument with someone IRL (I'm fairly withdrawn), but being able to hash things out online without worrying about how I present myself has allowed me to better understand and fine-tune my arguments on various subjects.
EDIT: This is, of course, different than people that insult those that slight them in any way. That is, depending on the circumstances, hilarious or highly annoying.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
The best way to deal with these people is to not take what they say seriously. They sure aren't taking it seriously, so why give a shit about what they think?laughingcavalier wrote:I hear this Greekdog.
First post I made on CC was a sug in the Sugs&Bugs (one that got implemented lately). Someone was so gratuitously rude to me about it, I didn't make another post for a year.
The habits learned out of this internet anonymity are really nasty. On a gaming site like this, you get a lot of testosterone & bragadocio, not tempered with much experience of the world, and guys do say stuff here they wouldn't dream of saying to someone's face. It can take all the fun out of a game.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
thegreekdog wrote:I've been reading through some of the C&A and General Discussion fora recently and I've noticed a growing trend. Namely, there is a trend of people being complete assholes to others. This trend is ultimately disturbing to me, mostly because newer/inexperienced players (or players looking for help) are the targets of this assholery. I question whether the same comments would be made in real life to the people (I suspect the answer is no). I understand that there is leniency with respect to these types of comments on this site (and others), but without provocation these types of comments are destructive and unnecessary.
An example from youtube.com really caught my attention. I unfortunately no longer have the link, but there was a young boy (probably 10 or 11) who posted a video of himself talking about Ken Griffey Jr. and how great a baseball player he was. Among the comments was a wonderful sentence by a user that said, "f*ck off you piece of shit. Get a real life you fat f*ck." It angered me that someone (whether a teenager or an adult) would decide this was a good idea and a worthwhile thing to post.
Is anyone else disturbed by this sort of thing? Does anyone see this kind of internet ridiculousness popping up in real life?

The solution here is beer. When you're in a bar and discussing something you know nothing about and don't understand beer will help you not care about any of that and argue like a total dickbag.Frigidus wrote:I personally like being able to be more frank with people on the internet is a good thing. I couldn't imagine having a passionate argument with someone IRL (I'm fairly withdrawn), but being able to hash things out online without worrying about how I present myself has allowed me to better understand and fine-tune my arguments on various subjects.
But Snorri's point is also valid, we could just supply everyone with beer and make sure people attain a basic level of asshole in RL that is similar to the level commonly attained on the internet.Incandenza wrote:Frigidus wins the thread so breathtakingly as to be potentially unprecedented.
It's simple: some people are assholes. Some people are restrained from being assholes by societal norms. Freed of such, cloaked in the welcoming anonymity of the internet, they join the in-all-phases-of-life assholes in being assholes on said internet. Not much can be done about curbing assholish behavior, save for adopting really restrictive policies that would really take the fun out of teh intarwebs. Hell, every so often, I'm a bit of an asshole on the internet, and I'm perfect in every way.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
Hit the nail on the head.Personally as a lifelong asshole I totally prefer to be a rude bastard to someone's face so I can see and judge my target's reactions better, it is much more satisfying that way.
No, its not. While some newspapers allow people to withhold their names and such, the almost never allow publishing of letters without a real name and address attached. There is a mound of law and legal precedence to dictate the boundaries. In almost all cases, people who present truly libelous and certainly threatening information, even just plain rudely insulting (you idiot is usually OK, you %$##^ is usually not) commentary is often not allowed.AndyDufresne wrote:It's like writing angry anonymous letters to people/newspapers. Except multiplied by a billion.
--Andy
Are you really SURE you are anonymous?Incandenza wrote:Frigidus wins the thread so breathtakingly as to be potentially unprecedented.
It's simple: some people are assholes. Some people are restrained from being assholes by societal norms. Freed of such, cloaked in the welcoming anonymity of the internet, they join the in-all-phases-of-life assholes in being assholes on said internet. Not much can be done about curbing assholish behavior, save for adopting really restrictive policies that would really take the fun out of teh intarwebs. Hell, every so often, I'm a bit of an asshole on the internet, and I'm perfect in every way.