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As noone has stepped up to explain why the problem is impossible, I choose to give ducttapers4JC credit for an unorthodox solution and invite him to propose the next problem or riddle.Ducttapers4JC wrote:There is one solution to this problem: cut a domino in half. (I hope my brother never notices that I worked this problem with his dominos then used super glue to fix it.....just kidding, I never actually cut it in half)
Wow. A doozy. OK- we know one translator speaks both Russian and Chinese, and that isn't Mr F or Mr R (given), Mr C. (given not to speak chinese), or Mr. S (who speaks Portugese and Russian) so that is either Mr. A or Mr. P. Try cases:Ducttapers4JC wrote:Ok, here is my riddle. It is complicated, but please try to post your work. A publishing company has hired six translators to translate their books into Portuguese, Russian, Swahili, Chinese, French, and Arabic. By coincidence, the last name of each translator begins with a letter that starts the name of one of the languages. Each translator can efficently translate two of the six languages, but no two of them can translate the same two languages. Each language can be translated be exactly two translators. None of the translators can write the language that starts with the same letter as his last name. Mr. S can write Russian and Portuguese. One of the translators can write both Russian and Chinese. Mr. F and Mr. R can write the four languages that do not start with the same letters as there last names. The translators whose last names begin with the same letter as the languages that Mr. R can translate can both write French. Nether of the translators who write Portuguese can write Chinese. Now here is the question. What two languages can Mr. A write?
Wow YoursFalsey, not only did you work that out fast, but your explination was more clear then mine would have been! Sence you got this right, the next riddle is your to post.YoursFalsey wrote:Wow. A doozy. OK- we know one translator speaks both Russian and Chinese, and that isn't Mr F or Mr R (given), Mr C. (given not to speak chinese), or Mr. S (who speaks Portugese and Russian) so that is either Mr. A or Mr. P. Try cases:Ducttapers4JC wrote:Ok, here is my riddle. It is complicated, but please try to post your work. A publishing company has hired six translators to translate their books into Portuguese, Russian, Swahili, Chinese, French, and Arabic. By coincidence, the last name of each translator begins with a letter that starts the name of one of the languages. Each translator can efficently translate two of the six languages, but no two of them can translate the same two languages. Each language can be translated be exactly two translators. None of the translators can write the language that starts with the same letter as his last name. Mr. S can write Russian and Portuguese. One of the translators can write both Russian and Chinese. Mr. F and Mr. R can write the four languages that do not start with the same letters as there last names. The translators whose last names begin with the same letter as the languages that Mr. R can translate can both write French. Nether of the translators who write Portuguese can write Chinese. Now here is the question. What two languages can Mr. A write?
Case I: Mr. A Speaks Russian and Chinese. This leads to a contradiction however- Neither Mr A nor Mr S speak French, and likewise, Neither Mr. F nor Mr. R do as they speak the other four languages between them. Thus the french speakers are Mr. C and Mr P, which means Mr. R speaks Portugese and Chinese which no translator speaks both. So Case II must hold-
Case II: Mr. P speaks Russian and Chinese. Mr. S speaks Russian and Port. The two French speakers are Mr. A and Mr. C, so Mr. R speaks Arabic and Chinese, leaving Mr. F to speak Portugese and Swahili. We need one more Arabic speaker and one more Swahili speaker- Mr. A doesn't speak Arabic, so he must be the 2nd swahili speaker leaving Mr C to speak French and Arabic.
So Mr. A speaks French and Swahili. Deep sigh of relief!
As always, I want to see work. (I am a math teacher, so I have an excuse.) Still, guessing at how you guessed, I'm going to suggest that you haven't figured all the ways you can duplicate one cube...natty_dread wrote:I'm going to guess 120?
720, or 6!YoursFalsey wrote:I've got nothing off the cuff so I am stealing a puzzle:
How many distinct ways are there to colour the six faces of a cube using six different colours, and applying a different colour to each face. Cubes which could be rotated to look the same as each other are not counted as distinct.
(I stole this from http://www.mathmos.net/puzzles/combination.html but there are no solutions posted, so you'll to get one the old-fashioned way- by solving the puzzle!)

I think you have reduced it too far. You are right as far as the first three colours are concerned. Imagine "a" on top, "b" on the bottom, and "c" on the front. Now you have three colours to go on the right, back and left sides. Those can be arranged six ways for a total of 5x6 or 30 patterns. You went astray assuming that those last two colours "will give the same pattern (after rotation)". With a, b, c, and d as described, if e is on the right, there is no way to rotate it and put it on the left without swapping some other pair.jonesthecurl wrote:no.
Put colour "a" on side 1 (that's any side at all).
At this point the only colour that matters is the colour on the opposite face - any adjacent face being coloured at this point will be covered later in the prob.
There are five colours which can go on the opposit face. Add colour "b".
The third colour to be added can be any colour - it will be adjacent to "a" and "b" no matter what you do - all solutions are equivalent at this point. Add colour "c" to one of the faces.
So there are 5 ways of adding the first three colours.
Once again, the opposite face is the inportant one - there are three colours which can be added to the face opposite colour "c".
Add colour "d".
Now the addition of the remaining two colours will give the same pattern (after rotation) no matter which way you do it. Add colours "e" and "f".
So if I'm right, and I think I am, there are 5x3 combinations. That's, uh, 15.
ahh, I didn't think it far enough. gg guysHowever, even with color a on the bottom, you can rotate a given painted cube 4 ways. (Pick a given side other then top or bottom and rotate it to face North, East, South, or West.) So each possible arrangement is repeated 4 times in the list of 120 arrangements we just made. 120/4=30 so there are 30 arrangements once we compensate for that repetition

I also like the four answer, but don't have the math to back it up yet. However, consider. There were 10 people at the party, so he asked 9 people how many hands they shook. Possible answers ranged from 0 to 8 (since nobody shook their own hand or their spouse's hand.) Since each of the nine people answered a different answer, it follows each answer was given once.nippersean wrote:She shook 4 peoples hands I think - can't do the maths though.
Yes, you have it just right. That is the very reasoning used in the solutions in the book. Thanks again, Messrs. Gardner and Owe. You're up for the next puzzle, YoursFalsey.YoursFalsey wrote:Now I have the math- figured it out during homeroom this morning!
Somebody told the speaker they shook 8 hands- every hand they could legally shake since spousal-shaking and self-shaking are off limits. Was it the speaker's wife? No, because in that case, each of the other people he asked shook at least one hand- the speaker's wife- and again somebody had to shake 0 hands. So someone (Call that individual A) shook 8 hands. A's spouse is the only person who didn't shake A's hand, so the spouse (Call the spouse a) must be the person who shook 0 hands. So we know one of the couples, A and a, accounted for the 8 and 0 answers.
Somebody told the speaker they shook 7 hands. Was it his wife? If it was, then again we have a contradiction- everyone remaining had to shake hands both with A and with the speaker's wife, yet somebody remains who only shook 1 hand. So someone other then the speakers wife (Call them B) is the person who shook 7 hands. Likewise, B's spouse (b) must be the person who shook hands with A but nobody else. So one of the couples, B and b, accounted for the 7 and 1 answers.
Similar logic will show that C and c answered 6 and 2, D and d answered 5 and 3. The only unaccounted for answer is 4, so that must be the answer the speaker recieved from his wife. (And as it turns out, 4 is also the number of hands the speaker shook.)
Congratulations ender- that was a damn fine puzzle! Thanks also to nippersean, for providing the impetus that started me down the road to the answer.
Details, details...nippersean wrote:No problem Yours, just a small point, I didn't provide the impetus to your answer, I provided the answer.
OK, a quick and simple one: {stolen from Raymond Smullyan}Hurry up then with with the next one!