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Frigidus wrote:but now that it's become relatively popular it's suffered the usual downturn in coolness.
Dawkins has some interesting (and convincing) ideas, and I like the whole 'being able to live on through your contribution to the culture of humanity' thing, but recently I've been seeing him on TV and his whole slightly aggressive cynical style is a bit too much, in my opinion. He seems to be going for the whole sensationalist thing to make a quick buck these days, whereas he used to be much more widely respected in the field of Philosophy (at least to my knowledge).Skittles! wrote:Also, another book that just came out a few months ago
-The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins..
I would think some people would of heard of this book. I really like it, also, the last time I checked, it was the #1 best seller in Australia. Quite a good argument too.
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
The angstyness is not my main gripe with Catcher in the Rye. I DON'T find Holden relateable, likeable, or even compelling. He's not written as a character whose distance from the reader improves the story. It seems to me that he's meant to resonate within you, withstanding his foibles and goofs, but he certainly does not resonate within me.qeee1 wrote: I think Catcher speaks a certain truth, that has not found such beautiful or genuine expression anywhere else in literature, and to dismiss it because the main character is too angsty is a great tragedy. It's like dismissing Don Quixote for being too detatched from reality. Salinger's other works are also great, but Catcher is truly his master piece.
I really liked Catch-22. See, now, I think that's a good book to compare to Catcher in the Rye. Both are exceedingly masculinist with characters offensive to any sensible feminist, but Catch-22 caught me. Disliking the Catch-22 characters was enjoyable, dislking Holden Caulfield was not. *shrug*AndyDufresne wrote:Ah, one of my favorite authors...Joseph Heller.
I loved Catch-22...it was one of the few books I ever actually laughed out loud while reading.
And many other Heller books are pretty good, but I always smile when I think of Catch-22.
--Andy

I love D&D. I also find that few people know that the Narnia series is christian. I find that odd. Thank you for the recomendations though.CrazyAnglican wrote:17th Century novel "Tom Jones" (incredibly long, but funny if you can
hang with it)
"The Sun Also Rises" (hey this character makes no sense, oh okay he's
drunkhe makes sense now!)
Robert L. Asprin's Myth Adventures series: (Great humorous fantasy /
stay away from the Myth inc.
stuff not quite as good)
Anything by Raymond E. Fiest (probably the best fantasy writer you've
never heard of, can't recommend him
enough, especially his collaborative
works with Janny Wurts) Start with
"Magician: Apprentice" and its three rift
war saga sequels to set the stage, but
then go nuts! Hector if you played D&D
you will see him playing in a world very
similar.
J.R.R. Tolkien of course
and if you are receptive to Christian ideas anything by
C.S. Lewis (Hey, I'm an Anglican did you really think I wouldn't recommend him) put him on your must miss list if not. I highly recommend "The Screwtape letters" and "Mere Christianity"
I'll probably read "The God Delusion". Thanks for the recommendation.

hecter wrote:[ I also find that few people know that the Narnia series is christian. I find that odd.
Well, it's NOT like Don Quixote at all. I don't even know what that means to compare the two, though I like both.flashleg8 wrote: To btwonmeggy: I'll check out "Ficciones" by Jorge Luis Borges as well, I see from Amazon its a contemporary twist on Don Quixote (which I liked) so I'll give it a bash - though not in the original Spanish unfortunately!
French is really hard. I tried hard to learn it but I just couldn't.flashleg8 wrote:Trying at the moment to learn French (my fiancé’s French). It's hard, and I mean REALLY HARD (because my accent is atrocious [Glasgow] Everyone thinks I'm Germanbtownmeggy wrote: Go ahead and learn Spanish. It's easy, and I mean REALLY EASY. It'll open up a whole new world.).

French is stupidly difficult. I speak two other Romance languages, and have been working on learning French for years now, but it's not really coming to me. It's orthography and grammar are both very illogical and... contrary.flashleg8 wrote:Trying at the moment to learn French (my fiancé’s French). It's hard, and I mean REALLY HARD (because my accent is atrocious [Glasgow] Everyone thinks I'm Germanbtownmeggy wrote: Go ahead and learn Spanish. It's easy, and I mean REALLY EASY. It'll open up a whole new world.).
I know eh. I also don't know how french people understand each other because they speak so friggen fast. It's crazy. Anyway, if you want to know a hard language, try Klingon. I find it really tough.btownmeggy wrote:French is stupidly difficult. I speak two other Romance languages, and have been working on learning French for years now, but it's not really coming to me. It's orthography and grammar are both very illogical and... contrary.flashleg8 wrote:Trying at the moment to learn French (my fiancé’s French). It's hard, and I mean REALLY HARD (because my accent is atrocious [Glasgow] Everyone thinks I'm Germanbtownmeggy wrote: Go ahead and learn Spanish. It's easy, and I mean REALLY EASY. It'll open up a whole new world.).


