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Beckytheblondie wrote:My point is not to begin an argument with any of you about the advantages of team play; I'd lose that argument. But I raise what I believe to be an important issue. The current clans, their wars, competitions and challenges are all built upon the foundation of two-clan team play (Doubles, Triples, Quads). I understand the merits of team play... I know you're not a 'clan' if you can't work together, yada, yada, yada- it's clear.
But why must we continually operate under this framework. Why do the rules that govern actually govern?
I propose that multiple clans should be able to battle in a collective war...this happens in real life. 8 player doubles with four clans battling out seems interesting.
I propose that clans should engage in multiplayer singles battles, freestyle, terminator, assassin, and speed games. Why must the current constraints limit clan play so much? Is it because the governing oligarchy wants to play games that meet their preferences?
Are there any clans out there willing to break out of their present shackles to manumit themselves and appreciate all of the glorious games offered?
I know CLNBKY would open up its doors to 9 other players if we saw others interested in these options.
Kindest,
Bex


Very good post and points, can only see grudges forming between clans that "team up" in these types, and its tough to really claim a victor in these type of games because there are so many different variables that affect these gameplays and the bad play on one clan's side could create opportunities for a team that would not normally win the same game heads-up. Also could never see a clan like THOTA participating if this counted toward the ladder because as Lubawski just pointed out, certain players/clans are stuck with targets on their backs...Lubawski wrote:The Clan Olympics did this (like hwhr said) and it was fun while it lasted. It was FAR too much for one person to handle running though.
My biggest objection to playing 4 team dubs for example is that politics come in to play more than they should. I know, diplomacy is something that happens in war...this is a game, not a war. But if there is a 4 team game and team 1's clan is winning overall, you better believe that the other three clans are jumping on them to knock them down so they don't get another win. I guess that's my grudge with standard games too. Early leader syndrome kills you. It's always better to be in 2nd or 3rd place. There's just no fun in that for me.
When there are only two clans pitted together over a large number of games, it's all about which clan's strategies are better. Sure dice and drops can play a factor, but they get eliminated over the long haul. If you added two more clans to the mix, it's not about strategy, it's about diplomacy.
If there were another Clan Olympics, I think our clan would want to join. It was fun. I don't think we would accept a challenge like the one you described though Becky. I feel it would only create bad blood between clans.
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You would also need to get multiple clans to agree on settings, how to score (does 2nd place get points toward the standings?), etc. It is often hard for 2 sides to agree on the rules for a clan war, let alone 4 or more.Gold Knight wrote:Very good post and points, can only see grudges forming between clans that "team up" in these types, and its tough to really claim a victor in these type of games because there are so many different variables that affect these gameplays and the bad play on one clan's side could create opportunities for a team that would not normally win the same game heads-up. Also could never see a clan like THOTA participating if this counted toward the ladder because as Lubawski just pointed out, certain players/clans are stuck with targets on their backs...Lubawski wrote:The Clan Olympics did this (like hwhr said) and it was fun while it lasted. It was FAR too much for one person to handle running though.
My biggest objection to playing 4 team dubs for example is that politics come in to play more than they should. I know, diplomacy is something that happens in war...this is a game, not a war. But if there is a 4 team game and team 1's clan is winning overall, you better believe that the other three clans are jumping on them to knock them down so they don't get another win. I guess that's my grudge with standard games too. Early leader syndrome kills you. It's always better to be in 2nd or 3rd place. There's just no fun in that for me.
When there are only two clans pitted together over a large number of games, it's all about which clan's strategies are better. Sure dice and drops can play a factor, but they get eliminated over the long haul. If you added two more clans to the mix, it's not about strategy, it's about diplomacy.
If there were another Clan Olympics, I think our clan would want to join. It was fun. I don't think we would accept a challenge like the one you described though Becky. I feel it would only create bad blood between clans.
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Possible but unlikely in the next few months. How would you deal with the team games?Beckytheblondie wrote:Really good answers. I have no retorts except that I hope to see a Clan Olympics start up again soon!
Cloning has improved by leaps and bounds in the last few years.jpcloet wrote:Possible but unlikely in the next few months. How would you deal with the team games?Beckytheblondie wrote:Really good answers. I have no retorts except that I hope to see a Clan Olympics start up again soon!
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But that's exactly why I think some clans should be interested in this. As it breaks the first rule of Clan war, it opens up new opportunities for clansmen and women. Surely someone in intrigued?AgentSmith88 wrote:you are going to be hard pressed to find a clan that will play freestyle or speed, even if it doesn't count for clan war, etc. the first rule of almost every clan war (and in the clan league) is no freestyle, speed, manual, nuclear, etc. for gimmicky settings. gimmicky maps are another story though....
It is something worth considering. Some of the hard core clans may not do it, but we are but a small, fun and infant waring clan. PM my clan war organizer franny911 and we can see what KARMA is willing to do.Beckytheblondie wrote:But that's exactly why I think some clans should be interested in this. As it breaks the first rule of Clan war, it opens up new opportunities for clansmen and women. Surely someone in intrigued?AgentSmith88 wrote:you are going to be hard pressed to find a clan that will play freestyle or speed, even if it doesn't count for clan war, etc. the first rule of almost every clan war (and in the clan league) is no freestyle, speed, manual, nuclear, etc. for gimmicky settings. gimmicky maps are another story though....