Mongol Empire Map [Quenched]

santon836 · Post by **santon836** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:53 pm

I like it.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:20 pm

yeah i like it too but it does not fit with the map, it looks like metal

for dummies · Post by **for dummies** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:38 pm

it needs to be played around with a little but i like it

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:42 pm

That's a great wall!

And no, the Great Wall of China is not brown.

If anything it should be a lighter grey. However I think it's just fine as it is.

Awesome map.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:06 pm

Guiscard, are you still considering the 'break' in the wall...hm...a few pages back ago?

--Andy

casper · Post by **casper** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:49 pm

I liked the brown one better too.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... l-SA14.jpg

Looks brown to me.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:00 am

Selective photo. The photo is taken at dusk and the surrounding country side is arid brown.

The best case for "brown" that can be made is that different sections have different colour. And early walls were made out earth, wood and brick. But even then the most accurate colour is not brown but orange.

That said the Jiankou section of the Great Wall, built during the Mongol Empire (1368) under the Ming dynasty used white stone. See photo.

Perhaps the wall should be a lighter grey?

Here are some more GWOC photos. Here.
Here.
Here (Excellent close view)

Osirus_Oblivion7 · Post by **Osirus_Oblivion7** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:13 pm

Great map, you did your homework.

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:48 am

I think that you should make a break in the wall like you said before

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:57 am

but otherwise i think that everything else is good and it is ready for army circles. This is a very good idea and well thought out!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:19 am

I think that red country have to many atack borders

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:41 am

qwert wrote:I think that red country have to many atack borders

Why does it matter if it has too many attack borders?
And, that's the point of it being an in-the-centre continent, to be able to attack a lot of areas.

But I do see why you think that, because if someone got the red area first, then it would be easy to attack other areas, but then it has to defend many areas too.

I think it's fine, no need to bother with making less attacking/defending borders.
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Good job =)

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:45 am

Only my opinion, i dont say that he must to change these.

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:05 pm

the red part has to have lots of attacking options because, although it can attack many other parts, this means that also many parts can attack it.

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:05 pm

that may not have made much sense....

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:06 pm

well if you want to hold these country you must have a lot army in these country

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:29 pm

OK guys lets see what you reckon to this little change.

A bit darker and a tinge of brown, also lengthened slightly. I tried adding a different section further along as Andy suggested but it looked ridiculous and out of shape. Map makers prerogative has scrapped that idea.

edit: I tried lightening it with the brown tinge but it looked too muddy, and any lighter than the previous version looked entirely too shiny for my liking.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:34 pm

Its look blur, these what i see, maybe others guys have better eye.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:41 pm

Looks good. I would suggest trying to add some more definition to the edges though, if you get what I mean.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:41 pm

No, it is blurred in an attempt to match the 'sharpness' of the mountains. If a few people think its too much blur I can sharpen it again no problem. This update is more concerned with the colour and length.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:55 pm

Colour and length are good.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:58 pm

Don't know what the fascination with brown is about. As I have shown at least one part of the Great Wall in that period was constructed out of white stone...

HOWEVER - that's a good intermediary colour. I like it. It doesn't look like mud or wood. You can tell the wall is made out of stone.

Grey with brown tinge - excellent!

If the wall is to be broken the broken stone could be highlighted with a lighter grey.

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:00 pm

what ever happened to the Fukien sea route?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:01 pm

Lost it a while back after much debate. Extended the grey cont to keraits and kalinbaliq instead.

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:02 pm

somehow the wall seems out of place compared to the other boundaries and the map altogether.Is it just me or should it be less 3-D?