Wall and PM abuse Cleared

[Timminz]

I'm amazed this is still open. Long weekend, I guess.

To the OP; you really need to rethink the way you're looking at team strategy on that kind of map. There's nothing cheap, or unfair about the way they beat you. If that kind of strategy really bothers you, it is up to you to avoid the maps where that is a winning strategy. Stick to "standard" style maps, and you should be able to avoid losing like in that way.

[Royal Panda]

What a strange response to remove the ratings! You were quite welcome to your belief that it was a cheap tactic, and welcome to rate accordingly. What is abuse is posting a C&A thread without any evidence, wasting everyone's time. Either post the offending PM(s) or don't create a topic! If you're going to send it to a mod directly then don't post a thread!

The implication of you being easy points is definitely justifed. On Feudal Epic, a team that stacks on 1 player will almost exclusively beat a team that doesn't. So if you don't like to use that tactic, prepare to lose many a game on that map to teams that know what they're doing. It's the same principle as taking and defending a bonus in a no spoils game. The team that does that will almost always beat a team that takes no bonus at all, simple strategy!

[MrPanzerGeneral]

LOL, really?



These are the PM's between he/she and MNDuke. [

by MNDuke
Hi. We recently played in game Game 6639018 against one another. This was a feudal epic game. You left me and my teammates with a very bad rating. You gave us 1 star for gameplay and fair play and no stars for attitude as well as attaching the cheap tactics tag. Could you please explain to my why you chose to rate me and friends this way. I would appreciate it if you would withdraw this negative rating as it is unjustified. I don't know if you were upset because you lost or just confused as to how we were able to beat you. I can explain the strategy behind that map if you'd like.

Notwithstanding I think the report is spurious & agree with LMS et al....about the matter.
But in the light of other events I did find MNdukes above pm rather humourous........


23:32:21 - MNDuke: orange (mrpanzergeneral) you are foed for being idiot. congrats
23:33:24 - MNDuke: you insist on attacking me even though i have never made any such move torwards you
23:33:52 - MNDuke: why you continue to break my bonus and leave everyone elses is beyond me, as such you are an idiot and foed
04:48:48 - mihai13: look what you did, Duke! Now the general has two bonuses, while I'm still stuck with England. Go back and fix it
02:33:24 - MrPanzerGeneral eliminated MNDuke from the game

[Woodruff]

As per this complaint. Nothing wrong with asking others to foe someone. Unless it's mass pm spams.

That's a bunch of shit, quite frankly. It's cowardly and assinine.

That being said, if what LMX has posted is accurate, then what he did is NOT cowardly and assinine, nor is it "asking others to foe him", really.

Woody. Is it against the rules? NO.

Where did I say it was against the rules?

[Woodruff]

As I said I removed the wall posts, but I did report the PM. Will not post it here. I am not a poor loser. My scores alone show I lose quite a bit. BoganGod made a good argument that I did not see and so I removed the ratings, but the PM abuse and wall attack still stand as they were crass and rude after the first PM. They showed no proper discussion and insulted me personally after the first message.

If this is the way you're going to handle it (not posting the PMs, which I can respect), then at the very least, you need to forward the PMs you were sent on to the moderators (Lord Voldemort and such), so that they can effectively deal with it. Without their seeing those PMs, you have no argument at all.

[BoganGod]

As I said I removed the wall posts, but I did report the PM. Will not post it here. I am not a poor loser. My scores alone show I lose quite a bit. BoganGod made a good argument that I did not see and so I removed the ratings, but the PM abuse and wall attack still stand as they were crass and rude after the first PM. They showed no proper discussion and insulted me personally after the first message.

If this is the way you're going to handle it (not posting the PMs, which I can respect), then at the very least, you need to forward the PMs you were sent on to the moderators (Lord Voldemort and such), so that they can effectively deal with it. Without their seeing those PMs, you have no argument at all.

Gee your slipping woody. Read the thread, closely... He has said he will remove the rating, though he wishes he had the option to only remove the cheap tactics tag. He also mentioned that he had reported the pm's.... Come on mate your normally awake when you post

[Zyzyx Qyzyx]

Notwithstanding I think the report is spurious & agree with LMS et al....about the matter.
But in the light of other events I did find MNdukes above pm rather humourous........

No no no, your quoting the first PM which I had no issue with. The 2nd Pm was the one that was the problem. Like I said I reported it. Didn't know I had to leave the wall posting or I would not have deleted them for this. But the abuse still stand they did not discuss this with me rationally MNDukes started with a good and decent PM but the second degraded into slime and puss.

[Snowgun]

This is entertaining.

LMS and MNDUKE are good players, and they know their way around feudal. Period. And zyzxyzx or whatever his name is got taken. Period. No need to vindictively spike feedback at them, that's playground tactics.

However it doesn't surprise me that those two whiners got their panties in a bunch all over ONE negative feedback (who gives a shit, really). What surprises me is that they could formulate one grown-up PM asking to remove it during their hyperventilating, before they UNLEASHED their true selves in PM's #2 through whatever (which unfortunately won't see the light of day here).

I suggest that the BS from both sides cancel out and we all go our merry ways...

[king sam]

this is an adult gaming site. On occasions youwill encounter users that use for letter words, either grow thick skin to it or Foe & Rate Accordingly.

The chat in both messages are not enough for us to step in use the Foe system at your leisure.

Also please read over the community guidelines, especially if your going to post i the forums.

And lastly as LV had already said this right now has been a closed incident on the questionable rating ways of this player. It will be Noted and if in the future this continues with him/her then he/she will be warned as per the guidelines.

Cleared/Closed.

KS

[Woodruff]

this is an adult gaming site. On occasions youwill encounter users that use for letter words, either grow thick skin to it or Foe & Rate Accordingly.

I understand what you're saying and I do agree with the gist of the ruling, but given that he already "rated accordingly" which LED to the PMs...

[wreckead]

As per this complaint. Nothing wrong with asking others to foe someone. Unless it's mass pm spams.

That's a bunch of shit, quite frankly. It's cowardly and assinine.

That being said, if what LMX has posted is accurate, then what he did is NOT cowardly and assinine, nor is it "asking others to foe him", really.

its a downright low tactic to affect somebody that you personally dont like, and is definately abuse of the foe system, people should make up their own minds from the experiences of playing people themselves.

btw did you say unless its mass pm spams jef? heres a little quote from one of your many abusive pm's to me

I thinking about pm'ing my friends list, which is large, and have em foe you.

so in your own words this is wrong? personally i prefer woodruffs

people should be able to foe/ rate who and what they please but based on their experiences and not coherse others to do likewise.........

[jefjef]

As per this complaint. Nothing wrong with asking others to foe someone. Unless it's mass pm spams.

That's a bunch of shit, quite frankly. It's cowardly and assinine.

That being said, if what LMX has posted is accurate, then what he did is NOT cowardly and assinine, nor is it "asking others to foe him", really.

its a downright low tactic to affect somebody that you personally dont like, and is definately abuse of the foe system. btw did you say unless its mass pm spams jef? heres a little quote from one of your many abusive pm's to me

I thinking about pm'ing my friends list, which is large, and have em foe you.

so in your own words this is wrong?

personally i prefer woodruffs

If you think I have violated some rules file a complaint.

You are rather vindictive of getting caught cheating with forget69. Put it behind ya. Foe me as I and others have you foed you.

[wreckead]

As per this complaint. Nothing wrong with asking others to foe someone. Unless it's mass pm spams.

That's a bunch of shit, quite frankly. It's cowardly and assinine.

That being said, if what LMX has posted is accurate, then what he did is NOT cowardly and assinine, nor is it "asking others to foe him", really.

its a downright low tactic to affect somebody that you personally dont like, and is definately abuse of the foe system. btw did you say unless its mass pm spams jef? heres a little quote from one of your many abusive pm's to me

I thinking about pm'ing my friends list, which is large, and have em foe you.

so in your own words this is wrong?

personally i prefer woodruffs

If you think I have violated some rules file a complaint.

You are rather vindictive of getting caught cheating with forget69. Put it behind ya. Foe me as I and others have you foed you.

sry mods i know this is getting of topic:

to foe you for no reason would just bring me down to your level my friend........but i am an adult


btw how many times do you need to flame me on that? please refrain from flaming and posting stuff not relevent to the thread , i was just making a point about this issue........

[BoganGod]

As per this complaint. Nothing wrong with asking others to foe someone. Unless it's mass pm spams.

That's a bunch of shit, quite frankly. It's cowardly and assinine.

That being said, if what LMX has posted is accurate, then what he did is NOT cowardly and assinine, nor is it "asking others to foe him", really.

its a downright low tactic to affect somebody that you personally dont like, and is definately abuse of the foe system, people should make up their own minds from the experiences of playing people themselves.

btw did you say unless its mass pm spams jef? heres a little quote from one of your many abusive pm's to me

I thinking about pm'ing my friends list, which is large, and have em foe you.

so in your own words this is wrong? personally i prefer woodruffs

people should be able to foe/ rate who and what they please but based on their experiences and not coherse others to do likewise.........

Please admit you have a crush on JefJef, and move on <yawns> if the pm's JefJef sends you are so bad report him. Otherwise it just looks like your editing the "quotes" that you post. Seriously get over him calling you a cheat. You got busted. You were caught cheating, so and any other player are well within rights to call you a cheat. If you continue stalking JefJef and baiting him, you will cross the line sooner rather than later, and get slapped on the wrist again.

[king sam]

sry mods i know this is getting of topic:
to foe you for no reason would just bring me down to your level my friend........but i am an adult
btw how many times do you need to flame me on that? please refrain from flaming and posting stuff not relevent to the thread , i was just making a point about this issue........

If you think I have violated some rules file a complaint.
You are rather vindictive of getting caught cheating with forget69. Put it behind ya. Foe me as I and others have you foed you.

You can Foe anyone for any reason at all even if you havent played in a game with them.
To include:

• the person annoys you in the forums
• a friend or a clan member told you the person played cheap or wasnt a good sport
• the person has been found guilty of a vioaltion on here and you dont want to associate with them

All of those are some reasons that people can have for Foe'ing people. And the Foe system is not monitored causethere is really no abuse that can come out of this. If someone doesnt want to play with you then play with the millions of others.

By the way JefJef's post which I quoted above was not a flame. In the future all that report a post need to do so with caution. By all means report a post if it violates a rule in the community guidelines, but dont report a post cause another user got the better of you in the thread and this is what you try to do to save face. Their is a guideline about report a post abuse as well.

This case has been Closed and will now be locked, take your arguement with each other elsewhere.

KS