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actually, this is one is an attempt to somewhat even out the incredibly biased and very little watched "WE the people" series from the History channel a few months back. Yes, Matt Damon was in it......b.k. barunt wrote:Wow. I can tell that's gonna be a real unbiased objective view of American history there.
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... You know, pro-American or something.Phatscotty wrote:actually, this is one is an attempt to somewhat even out the incredibly biased and very little watched "WE the people" series from the History channel a few months back. Yes, Matt Damon was in it......b.k. barunt wrote:Wow. I can tell that's gonna be a real unbiased objective view of American history there.
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besides, what is wrong with celebrating achievements? What you mean by biased?
ok well let's discuss that after it is available to be viewed, and then comment? Micheal Moore has been a busy boy though.Nobunaga wrote:... You know, pro-American or something.Phatscotty wrote:actually, this is one is an attempt to somewhat even out the incredibly biased and very little watched "WE the people" series from the History channel a few months back. Yes, Matt Damon was in it......b.k. barunt wrote:Wow. I can tell that's gonna be a real unbiased objective view of American history there.
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besides, what is wrong with celebrating achievements? What you mean by biased?
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yes, a parodySymmetry wrote:That's got to be the most homoerotic trailer I've seen for a long time. Is it a parody?
It was quite homoerotic, wasn't it? A bunch of big, sweaty men with their big tools together like that...Symmetry wrote:That's got to be the most homoerotic trailer I've seen for a long time. Is it a parody?

Why the fixation on my ass?monster10 wrote:sym ur a dumb ass so no one cares
You continue to see what you want to see. I saw slavery, The contribution of Asians, The issue of native Americans, and even the Mexican army (remember the alamo? no?) You dont know how to view it. Check it out though if you have the history channel. Obama is doing the introductionSymmetry wrote:Why the fixation on my ass?monster10 wrote:sym ur a dumb ass so no one cares
And seriously- did you watch the trailer? Bunch of rugged men sweating it out, only two women turn up, shots of explosions and rocket launches. Ends with a massive orgasm.
No? Really?
Wow- I found the homoerotic aspects to be a parody.Phatscotty wrote:yes, a parodySymmetry wrote:That's got to be the most homoerotic trailer I've seen for a long time. Is it a parody?
America was not built by hand
America did not invent the engine
America did not invent the light bulb
America did not harness electricity
America did not invent the typewriter
America was not the first to land on the moon
It's all a parody. Seriously Symm, which parts did you find a parody?
Would you be happier If America did not celebrate it's achievements? Perhaps Americans should just watch anti-American Programming constantly?
I'm sure the show will be great, but the trailer is pretty homoerotic.Phatscotty wrote:You continue to see what you want to see. I saw slavery, The contribution of Asians, The issue of native Americans, and even the Mexican army (remember the alamo? no?) You dont know how to view it. Check it out though if you have the history channel. Obama is doing the introductionSymmetry wrote:Why the fixation on my ass?monster10 wrote:sym ur a dumb ass so no one cares
And seriously- did you watch the trailer? Bunch of rugged men sweating it out, only two women turn up, shots of explosions and rocket launches. Ends with a massive orgasm.
No? Really?
Symmetry wrote:I'm sure the show will be great, but the trailer is pretty homoerotic.Phatscotty wrote:You continue to see what you want to see. I saw slavery, The contribution of Asians, The issue of native Americans, and even the Mexican army (remember the alamo? no?) You dont know how to view it. Check it out though if you have the history channel. Obama is doing the introductionSymmetry wrote:Why the fixation on my ass?monster10 wrote:sym ur a dumb ass so no one cares
And seriously- did you watch the trailer? Bunch of rugged men sweating it out, only two women turn up, shots of explosions and rocket launches. Ends with a massive orgasm.
No? Really?
If you want a serious criticism of the programme based on the trailer, I'd just point out that it seems to view the history of America as solely post-colonial. History, apparently, only started after the Europeans arrived.

I'm not sure how my statement was "way off"- I was pretty clear that I was interested in the trailer, and what it was showing. Heads up though- England, Spain and France are European countries. I'm not gonna get into a pissing contest on this one, but I do feel I should clarify what I meant- I had serious doubts (entirely based on the trailer) that the series would not really deal with the civilisations of the current US before colonisation. I'd be interested to know if it did, or if it took the "history was imported" line.Phatscotty wrote:Symmetry wrote:I'm sure the show will be great, but the trailer is pretty homoerotic.Phatscotty wrote:You continue to see what you want to see. I saw slavery, The contribution of Asians, The issue of native Americans, and even the Mexican army (remember the alamo? no?) You dont know how to view it. Check it out though if you have the history channel. Obama is doing the introductionSymmetry wrote:Why the fixation on my ass?monster10 wrote:sym ur a dumb ass so no one cares
And seriously- did you watch the trailer? Bunch of rugged men sweating it out, only two women turn up, shots of explosions and rocket launches. Ends with a massive orgasm.
No? Really?
If you want a serious criticism of the programme based on the trailer, I'd just point out that it seems to view the history of America as solely post-colonial. History, apparently, only started after the Europeans arrived.
after viewing part 1, your statement is shown to be way off. I did not notice bias any which way. and most of the first hour was about england, spain, and france and even africa. the entire segment was pre-America, PRE-VICTORY over England
very well putSymmetry wrote:Wow- I found the homoerotic aspects to be a parody.Phatscotty wrote:yes, a parodySymmetry wrote:That's got to be the most homoerotic trailer I've seen for a long time. Is it a parody?
America was not built by hand
America did not invent the engine
America did not invent the light bulb
America did not harness electricity
America did not invent the typewriter
America was not the first to land on the moon
It's all a parody. Seriously Symm, which parts did you find a parody?
Would you be happier If America did not celebrate it's achievements? Perhaps Americans should just watch anti-American Programming constantly?
If you want to debate the rest, I can only tell you that I don't think that America was built by hand, but rather through a series of geological processes.
I don't know what you mean when you say that Americans invented the engine, as "engine" is pretty vague. I'm guessing you don't mean siege engines, for example.
Claims for the invention of the lightbulb are all over the place, and I'm not even gonna start on that one.
Allesandro Volta, an Italian, is as far as I know, was the first person to harness electricity with his early batteries, but that's up for debate too.
Typewriter, there are some doubts, but sure- I'll give you that.
Land on the moon- well the Soviets managed a crash landing, but certainly Americans were the first men on the moon.
But anyway- that wasn't really my point. Yeah- more the homoerotic stuff.
no dude, thats just most of the things that popped out in the trailer. nothing homo-erotic about prideSymmetry wrote:Wow- I found the homoerotic aspects to be a parody.Phatscotty wrote:yes, a parodySymmetry wrote:That's got to be the most homoerotic trailer I've seen for a long time. Is it a parody?
America was not built by hand
America did not invent the engine
America did not invent the light bulb
America did not harness electricity
America did not invent the typewriter
America was not the first to land on the moon
It's all a parody. Seriously Symm, which parts did you find a parody?
Would you be happier If America did not celebrate it's achievements? Perhaps Americans should just watch anti-American Programming constantly?
If you want to debate the rest, I can only tell you that I don't think that America was built by hand, but rather through a series of geological processes.
I don't know what you mean when you say that Americans invented the engine, as "engine" is pretty vague. I'm guessing you don't mean siege engines, for example.
Claims for the invention of the lightbulb are all over the place, and I'm not even gonna start on that one.
Allesandro Volta, an Italian, is as far as I know, was the first person to harness electricity with his early batteries, but that's up for debate too.
Typewriter, there are some doubts, but sure- I'll give you that.
Land on the moon- well the Soviets managed a crash landing, but certainly Americans were the first men on the moon.
But anyway- that wasn't really my point. Yeah- more the homoerotic stuff.
GeniusPhatscotty wrote:
no dude, thats just most of the things that popped out in the trailer. nothing homo-erotic about pride
omg whatever we are number one! omg sooooo #1 omg omg :breathe: you can't touch us we'll bomb you! USA! USA! omg omgSymmetry wrote:GeniusPhatscotty wrote:
no dude, thats just most of the things that popped out in the trailer. nothing homo-erotic about pride