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Protesters attempt to storm the Parliament
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshdJZruH_0

another angle of same attempt with interesting* commentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiTRVe3ZxpY

Communists seize the Acropolis and drape the hammesickle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s87jTa8A-Gw

May day protests and the "guys on black bikes" clash with protesters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WCIJOSHbS8

protesters take over TV studio (quite awkward)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejICwCTnx8


And the resistance. (hospitals and transportation shut down, implications for US)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D-eJm-jjkk
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ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
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Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
(not mine....Yours.)

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Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
Not mine. In my country the people are protesting to make the government cut spending not vice versa. Now if the subject was cracking down on illegal immigration, you might have a point! But then that would be government sponsored violence.
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bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
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tzor wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
Not mine. In my country the people are protesting to make the government cut spending not vice versa. Now if the subject was cracking down on illegal immigration, you might have a point! But then that would be government sponsored violence.
Well, the Greek government sure isn't doing much spending. Something to do with a "down with taxes" mentality.
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Timminz wrote: Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates?
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Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
(not mine....Yours.)
As an impartial observer I might comment that - with 83% of Canada's exports going to the United States (the third highest one-nation trade dependency in the world after only Swaziland and Lesotho) - whatever happens to the US today happens to Canada in triplicate next week.

If the US loses a finger on Monday, Canada loses an arm on Friday.

This is an unfortunate situation for Canada to be in; whereas the U.S. could suddenly make a decision to do something different to avert its fate (I doubt it will), Canada has no control over the destiny that awaits it. It is resigned to simply hoping things turn out best for the US. :(

That said, the centralized nature of policing in Canada (outside Quebec and Ontario, of course) puts it in a much better position to, tactically, respond to restraints of civil authority. Also, Canadians have much more docile personalities relative to Americans, and especially to Greeks, which mitigates how robust civil contingency operations have to become (in fact, though they don't like to admit it, Americans tend to be more docile, themselves, than continental Europeans - perhaps not to the extent of Canadians, though).
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Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
You certainly don't recall the xyz affair.
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Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.
It's simple really. While there are large portions of the US that come from Germany, England and Itally, there are only a few places with significant French populations. That's why no one jokes about the surrendering Italians.

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tzor wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
Not mine. In my country the people are protesting to make the government cut spending not vice versa.
And how's that working out for ya?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


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Johnny Rockets wrote:
tzor wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
Not mine. In my country the people are protesting to make the government cut spending not vice versa.
And how's that working out for ya?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


Too little, too late I'm thinking.

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If I'm not mistaken, isn't Canada's gross debt higher than America's (as a percentage of GDP)?

I know it costs a lot to field paratroopers to commit human rights atrocities in Somalia, or to jail Quebecois freedom fighters, but - aside from Munchkin City's version of Fascist Imperialism - what is Canada spending all that money on, one wonders? Recharging Dave Onley's electric scooter?
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nesterdude wrote:
Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
You certainly don't recall the xyz affair.
We've got long memories.
Because yea...that was like...over 200 years ago...

I don't know what's wrong with the Americans when it comes to the French. I actually root for France in soccer and the Olympics, though I have very, very little French blood in me.
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Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
The British kicked their arse repeatedly throughout the Hundred Year War, the Gemans kicked their arse in WWI, then bitch slapped them in WWII, the Vietnamese kicked their arse after WWII and they had to cry to us for help.

Are you fooking serious?


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saxitoxin wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
(not mine....Yours.)
As an impartial observer I might comment that - with 83% of Canada's exports going to the United States (the third highest one-nation trade dependency in the world after only Swaziland and Lesotho) - whatever happens to the US today happens to Canada in triplicate next week.

If the US loses a finger on Monday, Canada loses an arm on Friday.

This is an unfortunate situation for Canada to be in; whereas the U.S. could suddenly make a decision to do something different to avert its fate (I doubt it will), Canada has no control over the destiny that awaits it. It is resigned to simply hoping things turn out best for the US. :(

That said, the centralized nature of policing in Canada (outside Quebec and Ontario, of course) puts it in a much better position to, tactically, respond to restraints of civil authority. Also, Canadians have much more docile personalities relative to Americans, and especially to Greeks, which mitigates how robust civil contingency operations have to become (in fact, though they don't like to admit it, Americans tend to be more docile, themselves, than continental Europeans - perhaps not to the extent of Canadians, though).

Good point. The global recession nailed our manufacturing centres, mostly Ontario, but our Agriculture and commodities weathered us through better than most other countries in the world.

We sit on some of the largest deposits of oil and minerals, have a great agricultural output, and vast timber reserves. Coupled with good ( well, good enough...) social safety nets, and free healthcare, I'm sure we can struggle through the U.S. demise while we find better trading agreements than nafta in cutomers like India and China.

That is until you invade our asses of course.

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In the list of crimes of imperialism committed by France against the United States one cannot forget that that nation, conspiring with the racist British colony-makers, intended to grant recognition to the slave-owning Confederate States, a move that prompted Tsar Alexander to threaten war against the UK and France and to send the Imperial Fleets to protect New York and San Francisco.

"I will not cooperate in such action; and I will not acquiesce. On the contrary, I shall accept the recognition of the independence of the Confederate States by France and Great Britain as a casus belli for Russia. And in order that the governments of France and Great Britain may understand that this is no idle threat; I will send our Pacific fleet to San Francisco and our Atlantic fleet to New York. "
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Johnny Rockets wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
(not mine....Yours.)
As an impartial observer I might comment that - with 83% of Canada's exports going to the United States (the third highest one-nation trade dependency in the world after only Swaziland and Lesotho) - whatever happens to the US today happens to Canada in triplicate next week.

If the US loses a finger on Monday, Canada loses an arm on Friday.

This is an unfortunate situation for Canada to be in; whereas the U.S. could suddenly make a decision to do something different to avert its fate (I doubt it will), Canada has no control over the destiny that awaits it. It is resigned to simply hoping things turn out best for the US. :(

That said, the centralized nature of policing in Canada (outside Quebec and Ontario, of course) puts it in a much better position to, tactically, respond to restraints of civil authority. Also, Canadians have much more docile personalities relative to Americans, and especially to Greeks, which mitigates how robust civil contingency operations have to become (in fact, though they don't like to admit it, Americans tend to be more docile, themselves, than continental Europeans - perhaps not to the extent of Canadians, though).

Good point. The global recession nailed our manufacturing centres, mostly Ontario, but our Agriculture and commodities weathered us through better than most other countries in the world.

We sit on some of the largest deposits of oil and minerals, have a great agricultural output, and vast timber reserves. Coupled with good ( well, good enough...) social safety nets, and free healthcare, I'm sure we can struggle through the U.S. demise while we find better trading agreements than nafta in cutomers like India and China.

That is until you invade our asses of course.

Johnny Rockets
First, "you" does not mean "me" as "I" am not an American.

Second, the point is not debatable. The fact that 100% of Canadians have access to preventative medicine as opposed to 94% of American will not, nor has ever, stopped the abeyance of civil authority, nor riots, war or general depravation.

If the US suffers an economic collapse the conditions of general misery in the United States will be compounded by factors of ten on the Canadian population. If 83% of Canada's exprot market dries up there is nothing, and I truly mean nothing, that will prevent the implosion of Canadian civil society. The continued viability of Canada as a functioning, independent nation state will - most likely - come into question. Canada will not survive the 10-15 years it will take to develop new markets and economic paradigms. Canada will probably not survive 10-15 months.

Third, the catastrophe you are imagining is, inherently and throughout history, accomplished through a corresponding change in worldview. If your prediction comes to pass, the international organization of nation-states will devolve into a traditional order in which powerful states take what they need from their lesser neighbors. Your cheerleading is cheerleading Canada to tributary state status with the United States as Suzerain (if that isn't already the case).

As much as I detest Canadian racist imperialism and sycophancy, even I would not like to see that happen.

Canadians have limited talents and are deeply unimpressive. Anyone who is even moderately good at what they do - in literature, the theater, skiing of whatever - tends to become a national figure. And anyone who stands out at all from the crowd tends to be praised to the skies and given the Order of Canada at once. - The Baron Moran, UK High Commissioner to Canada
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b.k. barunt wrote:
Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
The British kicked their arse repeatedly throughout the Hundred Year War, the Gemans kicked their arse in WWI, then bitch slapped them in WWII, the Vietnamese kicked their arse after WWII and they had to cry to us for help.

Are you fooking serious?


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Uh......read up a little Honibaz.

Heres a list of every major battle the French we're involved in.

[http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles ... tories.asp


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Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
I don't know. I heard it originally about Euro Disney....I think we should make jokes about the Germans surrendering. They totally got their asses kicked. And now they make nice cars and good beer....
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Johnny Rockets wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:
Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
The British kicked their arse repeatedly throughout the Hundred Year War, the Gemans kicked their arse in WWI, then bitch slapped them in WWII, the Vietnamese kicked their arse after WWII and they had to cry to us for help.

Are you fooking serious?


Honibaz
Uh......read up a little Honibaz.

Heres a list of every major battle the French we're involved in.

[http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles ... tories.asp


JRock
LOL, funny link ---

First - it was great, for me as a person who opposed NATO intervention in the Kuwait-Iraq dispute, to learn that the 4,000 French troops ("French" being a questionable term as they were mostly Legionnaires from Africa, not actual French citizens) in Saudi Arabia "won" Desert Storm!

Second - I notice a lot of battles conveniently didn't make the list, including the Battle of Spicheren (1/5 the French force killed or injured), the Battle of Mars-la-Tour (130,000 French troops defeated by 30,000 Germans under the legendary Prussian warlord Generaloberst Constantin von Alvensleben), the Battle of Arcis-sur-Aube (opening to eventual capture of Paris by Austria), etc.

This list seems very picked-and-chosen. :P
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saxitoxin wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:Consider this whole event a preview of what's going to go down in YOUR country.
(not mine....Yours.)
As an impartial observer I might comment that - with 83% of Canada's exports going to the United States (the third highest one-nation trade dependency in the world after only Swaziland and Lesotho) - whatever happens to the US today happens to Canada in triplicate next week.

If the US loses a finger on Monday, Canada loses an arm on Friday.

This is an unfortunate situation for Canada to be in; whereas the U.S. could suddenly make a decision to do something different to avert its fate (I doubt it will), Canada has no control over the destiny that awaits it. It is resigned to simply hoping things turn out best for the US. :(

That said, the centralized nature of policing in Canada (outside Quebec and Ontario, of course) puts it in a much better position to, tactically, respond to restraints of civil authority. Also, Canadians have much more docile personalities relative to Americans, and especially to Greeks, which mitigates how robust civil contingency operations have to become (in fact, though they don't like to admit it, Americans tend to be more docile, themselves, than continental Europeans - perhaps not to the extent of Canadians, though).

Good point. The global recession nailed our manufacturing centres, mostly Ontario, but our Agriculture and commodities weathered us through better than most other countries in the world.

We sit on some of the largest deposits of oil and minerals, have a great agricultural output, and vast timber reserves. Coupled with good ( well, good enough...) social safety nets, and free healthcare, I'm sure we can struggle through the U.S. demise while we find better trading agreements than nafta in cutomers like India and China.

That is until you invade our asses of course.

Johnny Rockets
First, "you" does not mean "me" as "I" am not an American.

Second, the point is not debatable. The fact that 100% of Canadians have access to preventative medicine as opposed to 94% of American will not, nor has ever, stopped the abeyance of civil authority, nor riots, war or general depravation.

If the US suffers an economic collapse the conditions of general misery in the United States will be compounded by factors of ten on the Canadian population. If 83% of Canada's exprot market dries up there is nothing, and I truly mean nothing, that will prevent the implosion of Canadian civil society. The continued viability of Canada as a functioning, independent nation state will - most likely - come into question. Canada will not survive the 10-15 years it will take to develop new markets and economic paradigms. Canada will probably not survive 10-15 months.

Third, the catastrophe you are imagining is, inherently and throughout history, accomplished through a corresponding change in worldview. If your prediction comes to pass, the international organization of nation-states will devolve into a traditional order in which powerful states take what they need from their lesser neighbors. Your cheerleading is cheerleading Canada to tributary state status with the United States as Suzerain (if that isn't already the case).

As much as I detest Canadian racist imperialism and sycophancy, even I would not like to see that happen.

Canadians have limited talents and are deeply unimpressive. Anyone who is even moderately good at what they do - in literature, the theater, skiing of whatever - tends to become a national figure. And anyone who stands out at all from the crowd tends to be praised to the skies and given the Order of Canada at once. - The Baron Moran, UK High Commissioner to Canada
Simmer Down.

First of all, congrats. Your not an American.
Secondly, of course universal health care will not prevent civil unrest. But it does provide an improved quality of life that weighs to the positive side of the scale in civil attitude.
If the shit truly hits the fan, well more than likely a military element will be included in the equation and yup, Canada will be bent over a table.

And Baron Moran was a pompous f*ck wit.

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saxitoxin wrote:
Johnny Rockets wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:
Timminz wrote:
bedub1 wrote:ooo...i see smoke....did france surrender?
Off-topic: why is it that Americans are such ingrates towards the French? Historically they've done a whole lot to support you guys, but as soon as the USA thought they were a bigger world power, they started trying to belittle the French at every opportunity.

I recommend visiting Versailles, specifically the Hall of Battles, to anyone who would like to see over 1100 years of France "surrendering".
The British kicked their arse repeatedly throughout the Hundred Year War, the Gemans kicked their arse in WWI, then bitch slapped them in WWII, the Vietnamese kicked their arse after WWII and they had to cry to us for help.

Are you fooking serious?


Honibaz
Uh......read up a little Honibaz.

Heres a list of every major battle the French we're involved in.

[http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles ... tories.asp


JRock
LOL, funny link ---

First - it was great, for me as a person who opposed NATO intervention in the Kuwait-Iraq dispute, to learn that the 4,000 French troops ("French" being a questionable term as they were mostly Legionnaires from Africa, not actual French citizens) in Saudi Arabia "won" Desert Storm!

Second - I notice a lot of battles conveniently didn't make the list, including the Battle of Spicheren (1/5 the French force killed or injured), the Battle of Mars-la-Tour (130,000 French troops defeated by 30,000 Germans under the legendary Prussian warlord Generaloberst Constantin von Alvensleben), the Battle of Arcis-sur-Aube (opening to eventual capture of Paris by Austria), etc.

This list seems very picked-and-chosen. :P

I'm sure it's not 100% comprehensive, but the stigma of cheese eating surrender monkeys is a little off base. They did have a significant number of military victories in their history.

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Johnny Rockets wrote: And Baron Moran was a pompous f*ck wit.
Ah, the elegance of dialog with a Canadian. A pinnacle in forensic speech. The embodiment of class and refinement.
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