Is this cheating?

[Harijan]

I was always under the impression that at CC we are not supposed to share account information, or log in to other players accounts with or without their permission. It appears now that it has become acceptable for friends to share account information and cover for one another when a player goes out of town, or otherwise cannot make their turns.

I personally think this is bullshit.

I hate clans. I think they are for total pussies who can't win games on their own.

So now because someone is stupid enough to blatantly share their account info, a player in one of my games gets to go on vacation without worrying about his CC games.

Now, what happens if the player who is substituting is much more skilled than the original player?

I didn't sign up for a game against an entire clan, I just want to play the person who started the game. This bait-n-switch crap is pretty fucking gay.

Irregardless of my personal opinions though, is it against the rules to log in a buddies account and play their turns when they can't?

Game Info:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6223599

[tims_girl_ashley]

yes it is legal. What he is doing is called account sitting

[TheForgivenOne]

From the FAQ under Help

17. Can I let another player take a turn for me when I am away from the game?
You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game. It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Babysitters should only do what is necessary to take the turn(s) and should not interact with the community, start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.

[Tisha]

cre8tiff isn't in a clan, and his babysitter, major-tom, is 100 points less than he is..

some more on Account-Sitting:

* Players are allowed to account-sit for others as long as they are not opponents within the game. When sitting for a player, you need to post who you are and how long you will be sitting for the player so that other players in the game are aware of who they are actually playing.
* Being on another player's account for ANY reason other than taking turns when they are in danger of missing a turn is not allowed. Abuse of this privilege can be considered account sharing and could result in a Bust for both accounts.

[Harijan]

Meh. again, gay. If you can't play the game, you should miss your turn. Just another notch in the care-bearification that has become CC.

[jefjef]

Meh. again, gay. If you can't play the game, you should miss your turn. Just another notch in the care-bearification that has become CC.

I don't even understand your negativity towards account sitting. I do a lot of sitting and it is a challenge to step into an ongoing game not knowing exactly what the plan is etc... If it's a fog game then the sitter really doesn't know exactly whats going on. me and other sitters try to just play a maintenance game so the account holder can finish it. Also other peeps in the game doesn't have to wait 24 hours + 24 hours + 24 hours... As one who plays for FREE I'm sure you can appreciate that.

Lighten up. It is just a game.

[cpurcell]

Are you kidding me?!?! I'm not even going to bother arguing with you, because you're obviously an imbecile, but I can say this: Welcome to my foe list.

---C

[Evil Semp]

Moving this to Q&A where it belongs.

[ljex]

Everyone please stop jumping on the op, we are all entitled to our opinion.

Also ConquerClub is designed for the casual gamer something that entails not always being there to take your turns. Thus you are allowed to use sitters to cover your turn in order to not miss.

[Commander62890]

I can't believe you're defending this moron, Ljex. What a fucking douchebag.

Irregardless

Gotta love it, right Ljex?

[ljex]

I can't believe you're defending this moron, Ljex. What an fucking douchebag.

I sincerely hope that was thrown in just to piss me off...

Irregardless

Gotta love it, right Ljex?

I did catch this when i first read just a little too angry to comment.

For those who dont know, irregardless is something people say generally to sound smarter but it is not an actual word. If you think about it, it means without without regard. The correct term is regardless (without regard).

[natty dread]

Irregardles is a double negative

[squishyg]

Irregardles is a double negative

irregardles is a misspelled double negative

[Commander62890]

I can't believe you're defending this moron, Ljex. What an fucking douchebag.

I sincerely hope that was thrown in just to piss me off...

Edited!

Yeah, I was going to say "an idiot," but when I chose to use different words, I forgot to change the "an" to an "a." No biggie.

[Lubawski]

Let's see if I have this right:

Anything you don't like is gay.
You would rather win via forfeit (by missed turns) than earn your victory with superior strategy.
You are angry at anyone who goes on vacation (do you live in your mother's basement?) and has to have a sitter.
You believe CC should trump real life, yet you are freemium.
You hate clans because they are groups of people who enjoy playing together.
You have roughly a 10th grade vocabulary (obvious because of the use of irregardless).
You have roughly an 8th grade maturity level (references to things you don't like as gay, and bashing the Care Bears).

Ok. Here's my advice. Go to your school's guidance counselor and ask if they can refer you to an anger management specialist. Also ask if you can talk to someone about those "strange" feelings you are having when you are in the locker room changing before gym class. Last, and most importantly, don't complain about someone having a real life where they actually have to be absent from CC, then have enough social skills to have found people on this site who can cover from them so they don't have to miss turns. Good luck with your many unresolved issues.

[jrl332005]

Very nicely put, I have to ask. Are you a god? That was the best bashing of another person that I have ever seen! I bow down at your feet.

[NOBODYIMPORTANT]

I side on the BULLSHIT side. I am very new. I don't believe the game is fair to all. I have tried the tips, I have played conservative AND suicidal as well as attack and auto attack and can only pull a 20% win rate. It's proven that a coin flipped "X" times won't always be 50/50, but is usually close. Babysitters? Do they pay the memership for them too? When I attack and attack and lose all my men just to get one spoil, it's very disheartening. I have tried it all, and the last thing I need is not having every advantage I can. Do you think LEE would have said "screw it" if GRANT slept in for a weekend? In that case, how about half of this place sits in for me so I can become a captain, then i'll take control until i'm a cook again. Then we will repeat the process. In fact why play the game at all? That makes MUCH more sense. Let's expand this to all things. How about the freakin' OLYMPICS. Don't you people have pride in what you do? Gee.....i'm going on vacation, so i'll start some new games. How about PLANNING to end them before you leave. OOPS, they may WHINE like the original poster.....I have added money to my paypal to buy a membership, but am leery. I want to start a new account just to "see" if my theory is correct before I pay to support this website, but that's against the rules. I PLAY FAIR. I've loved this game forever and don't want an unfair advantage, I want to win on my own credentials. If I go on "vacation", so should my rating. Get yourself a pillow for your sore asses. P.S.-Sign me: "PLAYS MY OWN FUCKING GAMES AND LOSES BECAUSE EITHER I PLAY LIKE SHIT OR PEOPLE ARE CHEATING. Also, do you let people sleep with your wife while you are gone too? SIGN ME UP. I'll babysit.......shit.

[AndyDufresne]

I side on the BULLSHIT side. I am very new. I don't believe the game is fair to all. I have tried the tips, I have played conservative AND suicidal as well as attack and auto attack and can only pull a 20% win rate. It's proven that a coin flipped "X" times won't always be 50/50, but is usually close. Babysitters? Do they pay the memership for them too? When I attack and attack and lose all my men just to get one spoil, it's very disheartening

Sometimes in games with Spoils, getting a spoil at the extreme cost of your troops isn't worth it. So sometimes forgo getting a spoil, if it means you keep yourself at roughly the same strength you started your turn with. That can be a good rule to play by. Always try to end your turns at roughly the same strength (or better) than your last turn. Try not to dig yourself into any holes.

And make sure that you are keep away from assaults that don't have a lot of upside, like 4vs2, 3vs1, 2vs1, etc.


--Andy

[iamkoolerthanu]

Please, try and stay on topic, and away from possible flaming

[Commander62890]

Sometimes in games with Spoils, getting a spoil at the extreme cost of your troops isn't worth it. So sometimes forgo getting a spoil, if it means you keep yourself at roughly the same strength you started your turn with. That can be a good rule to play by. Always try to end your turns at roughly the same strength (or better) than your last turn. Try not to dig yourself into any holes.

This is really only useful in flat rate multiplayer games and stale escalating games, Andy
It's sound advice, of course, but it only applies to a relatively small amount of games.

And make sure that you are keep away from assaults that don't have a lot of upside, like 4vs2, 3vs1, 2vs1, etc.

4v2 is fine, and you'll want to go for it almost every time you have the opportunity to in 1v1s and team games. 3v1 is trickier; definitely try it if you need to break a bonus or eliminate a player, but it is also useful in knocking an enemy down in territory count, if that affects their deployment. I think 2v1s should really only break bonuses and eliminate players, though there may be certain situations I am not thinking of where it would be useful. All of this applies mainly to 1v1s and team, of course. And, since NOBODYIMPORTANT plays a lot of 1v1s, I guess some of that could help him.



As for NOBODYIMPORTANT's post... I'll let someone else handle it. I don't talk to cooks.



Oh, and Lubawski? Fucking awesome post, man. Loved it.

[stuart133]

As for NOBODYIMPORTANT's post... I'll let someone else handle it. I don't talk to cooks.

Hey, nothing wrong with cooks, he could just be new ... or hasn't played much. Then again he does seem to be a massive moron, so I will give you that one

Ahhh, I really wish I never quit CC when I was still new, this is far too much fun.
To get back on topic, account sitting is a good thing, some games go on for much longer than you plan, there is a 3 yr game somewhere, now I bet both players still in it have used sitters at some point. Obviously it can be abused, but most people on here are here for fun, not rankings, so that doesn't happen that much.

So grow up and stop flaming your opponents because you can't beat them using teh mad skillz

[WorldCup4James]

I was always under the impression that at CC we are not supposed to share account information, or log in to other players accounts with or without their permission. It appears now that it has become acceptable for friends to share account information and cover for one another when a player goes out of town, or otherwise cannot make their turns.

I personally think this is bullshit.

I hate clans. I think they are for total pussies who can't win games on their own.

So now because someone is stupid enough to blatantly share their account info, a player in one of my games gets to go on vacation without worrying about his CC games.

Now, what happens if the player who is substituting is much more skilled than the original player?

I didn't sign up for a game against an entire clan, I just want to play the person who started the game. This bait-n-switch crap is pretty fucking gay.

Irregardless of my personal opinions though, is it against the rules to log in a buddies account and play their turns when they can't?

Game Info:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6223599

It's allowed, but I don't like it either. I guess I can live with it as long as the person tells me and isn't playing as another person in the same game.
Check out my tournament please!