eragon game thread. day 5. end game

[MeDeFe]

So do the 3rd partiers win if the scum win? That seems possible, but odd. I would assume it would be unfortunate for your average farmer for kull to over run the Empire...

Possinly, it depends on their specific conditions, and they might not all be the same. One thought, in a game with as many survivors/third party as this game seems to have the mafia might be required to outnumber all non-mafia, not just all the actual town, in order to win. If this is the case then it would be unwise for all the third partiers to go with the mafia as the mafia would have to kill at least half of them of in order to win.
At this point squirrel's case against ecodsil seems like the best thing we have had all game. It really should get us something to go on by following it up. Vote edocsil

I suppose town/mafia would also win if the other group is killed off. And any 3rd party survivors with appropriate conditions with them.

[wercool]

Holy shit.

This last two pages is quality mafia! My brain can't even comprehend everything that has been said, but I'll try and give some good info in this post.

agreed this amazing!
and ill take rainbow eater and voaden off alive now. (i didnt see that before)

[duday53]

Claim time. I just hope I don't get killed this night.

I am Eragon, a sk/joat. I get one kill a night and a special action like investigation or roleblock etc. I am masoned with spiesr and UTAlan who is my dragon, Saphira. I wonder if that role means that he can't talk or vote...

I tried to kill Cena night one (sorry haha) and investigate spiesr (came up third party).

Since my claim takes away two other options, I think there is a good chance we can easily lynch scum today. The only problem is that instead of there being a doctor, there are several role blockers. So from here I basically become vanilla. I wish we had found a replacement for UTAlan.. for all I know he could have a nightkill as well. But if I die, Saphira (in theory) would die. Since dragons can't live without their riders.

Anyways, after our lynch today if the role blockers could please block whoever is suspicious that would be awesome. I would like to live, and use night actions. Oh and if I die, then you know that the people who were blocked didn't kill me. Understand?

[Mr. Squirrel]

Claim time. I just hope I don't get killed this night.

I am Eragon, a sk/joat. I get one kill a night and a special action like investigation or roleblock etc. I am masoned with spiesr and UTAlan who is my dragon, Saphira. I wonder if that role means that he can't talk or vote...

I tried to kill Cena night one (sorry haha) and investigate spiesr (came up third party).

Since my claim takes away two other options, I think there is a good chance we can easily lynch scum today. The only problem is that instead of there being a doctor, there are several role blockers. So from here I basically become vanilla. I wish we had found a replacement for UTAlan.. for all I know he could have a nightkill as well. But if I die, Saphira (in theory) would die. Since dragons can't live without their riders.

Anyways, after our lynch today if the role blockers could please block whoever is suspicious that would be awesome. I would like to live, and use night actions. Oh and if I die, then you know that the people who were blocked didn't kill me. Understand?

hold on. If the king is town, and eragon is 3rd party SK, who the f*ck is the scum in this game?

[safariguy5]

Alright, well I'll claim too. I'm Arya the elf, third party recruiter. I'm investigation proof, which means I'll always come up town. edocil and I are lovers. I recruited / night 1.

[edocsil]

the kull look like the only scum then. Quite funny. I am out of town for the weekend, but I assume it will be slow anyways. Once we all get back we will look to see who to lynch. In the mean time it would be good for the third parties and any other townies to roleclaim, else you will considered scum and lynched.


The f*ck???? I'm your lover? Do you mean eragon is you lover?

[duday53]

Claim time. I just hope I don't get killed this night.

I am Eragon, a sk/joat. I get one kill a night and a special action like investigation or roleblock etc. I am masoned with spiesr and UTAlan who is my dragon, Saphira. I wonder if that role means that he can't talk or vote...

I tried to kill Cena night one (sorry haha) and investigate spiesr (came up third party).

Since my claim takes away two other options, I think there is a good chance we can easily lynch scum today. The only problem is that instead of there being a doctor, there are several role blockers. So from here I basically become vanilla. I wish we had found a replacement for UTAlan.. for all I know he could have a nightkill as well. But if I die, Saphira (in theory) would die. Since dragons can't live without their riders.

Anyways, after our lynch today if the role blockers could please block whoever is suspicious that would be awesome. I would like to live, and use night actions. Oh and if I die, then you know that the people who were blocked didn't kill me. Understand?

hold on. If the king is town, and eragon is 3rd party SK, who the f*ck is the scum in this game?

I went back and read my role pm, and it doesn't really say if I'm third party or town. I just said third party because I am masoned with people (usually means 3rd party but maybe not in this game) and because he described my role as a sk/joat. Also, in the books Eragon has the option to join the empire.

[Khiva]

But are you on the same side as Naxus? I was okay with the idea you were the 'evil' but plucky rebels to his 'just' kingship so if you guys didn't kill him who did?

[spiesr]

You know safari, your claim sounds just far too scummy in my opinion. Are you sure that you aren't some sort group that is against the (at this point seemingly non-existent) town? Did you read it wrong or did you just slightly alter your alignment when you claimed to make you seem less scummy?

What does a third party recruiter actually do in a game where nearly everyone seems to be third party anyway? What "third party" do you work for safari? You must not be a survivor like me, because recruiting people to survivor makes zero sense at all...

[Khiva]

Eh I just looked at my last post and it doesn't make as much sense as I thought when I wrote it so i'll try again: I was ok with the idea duday might be Luke Skywalker to naxus's Emperor, but if you guys didn't want him dead who is supposed to?

[safariguy5]

You know safari, your claim sounds just far too scummy in my opinion. Are you sure that you aren't some sort group that is against the (at this point seemingly non-existent) town? Did you read it wrong or did you just slightly alter your alignment when you claimed to make you seem less scummy?

What does a third party recruiter actually do in a game where nearly everyone seems to be third party anyway? What "third party" do you work for safari? You must not be a survivor like me, because recruiting people to survivor makes zero sense at all...

All I know is that I'm on the side of edocil. Also, since I'm varden, this makes me allied with eragon and saphira. Don't look at me, I didn't write these pm's. I'm kind of wondering about who is scum too. My role pm does not list me as red like the kull.

[cena-rules]

Wow, amazing mafia. Been working 12 hour days so not had much chance

Alright, well I'll claim too. I'm Arya the elf, third party recruiter. I'm investigation proof, which means I'll always come up town. edocil and I are lovers. I recruited / night 1.

First off this is one of the vaguest role claims ever

a) recruited to what??
b) successful?
c) Youre lovers with a guard? I dont think so honey
d) Arya as a recruiter?

Oh wait, RE and vodean are listed as dead. It would help if you removed their names from the alive to prevent confusion wercool. In that case...

unvote vote Thezzaurus for submarining.

Also, after the mafia we have had, you vote for someone submarining? This makes little sense as there has been many arguments for either side

All I know is that I'm on the side of edocil. Also, since I'm varden, this makes me allied with eragon and saphira. Don't look at me, I didn't write these pm's. I'm kind of wondering about who is scum too. My role pm does not list me as red like the kull.

I spose the question is.....you know the kull are red how?

My thoughts would be for a mass claim, would love to hear some good arguments about it. It would only be effective if we have all but the scum on board.

I think most people have claimed now, so IMO a mass claim would be respectable and will help us find scum as there are many mason groups to help confirm/deny the roles


vote safariguy

Unless your lover steps forward and admits it, you are pretty much bang on scum IMO

[edocsil]

I wonder if my pm is right..... this is too confusing.. btw we had a kull modkilled

[cena-rules]

I wonder if my pm is right..... this is too confusing.. btw we had a kull modkilled

Ah yes, my bad Well edocsil, does it mention safari in our pm?

[edocsil]

Nope. Either he is lyning or wercool really screwed up the pms. Arya would be in a relationship with Eragon, not me. If there was no eragon claiming already I would say wercool really screwed up, but now? I have no idea.

Just a heads up im, going out for the fourth. I sugest cation with lynching untill after, likely I am not the only one leaving. It will also give everyone else a chance to claim as well.

[cena-rules]

Im going to stick with him being scum

[spiesr]

The way I see it we need to choose between edocsil and safariguy to lynch today. Safari's claim seems worse, but I think that edcosil might give us more information...

Also, I will not be able to post this weekend as I will be out of town.

[safariguy5]

I'm a cult recruiter. Somehow, I'm green aligned just like the king. I also 100% claim that edocsil is my lover. If you lynch either of us, the other dies as well. Say what you will, but this is my claim. I might also add that I could have claimed something much less controversial considering I had zero pressure to claim. I don't really understand the mechanics of scum/town/third party, but I'm just going off what my pm says.

Blue is town from what I can see, green is some sort of third party role, and red is the scum role if I'm not mistaken. So it seems like a small town, small scum, large third party role.

I recruited / last night, he can confirm. Just saying that if I die, edocsil dies as well. Never read any of the books, don't know what the connection is. If we're the only two choices, then both of us are going to die. Also, edocsil has come under pressure earlier in the day. The reason why I was voting for the submariner is to deflect pressure off him because I knew that his death would be my death.

[cena-rules]

Well considering that you two are the scummiest, if we kill you then one of two things will happen

a) youre telling the truth and edocsil is youre lover and we get rid of our two most scummiest suspects
b) youre lieing and are scum, and we lose a scum

[Khiva]

I'm a cult recruiter. Somehow, I'm green aligned just like the king. I also 100% claim that edocsil is my lover. If you lynch either of us, the other dies as well. Say what you will, but this is my claim. I might also add that I could have claimed something much less controversial considering I had zero pressure to claim. I don't really understand the mechanics of scum/town/third party, but I'm just going off what my pm says.

Blue is town from what I can see, green is some sort of third party role, and red is the scum role if I'm not mistaken. So it seems like a small town, small scum, large third party role.

I recruited / last night, he can confirm. Just saying that if I die, edocsil dies as well. Never read any of the books, don't know what the connection is. If we're the only two choices, then both of us are going to die. Also, edocsil has come under pressure earlier in the day. The reason why I was voting for the submariner is to deflect pressure off him because I knew that his death would be my death.

Again I would say who is scum is relative and that I hope someone is lying otherwise it just feels like a bad setup. I would equate the Kull as stormtrooper/bounty hunters so a mafia vigilante makes more sense to me than a pro-town serial killer, and a lot more sense than a town aligned cult recruiter. The problem is non neutral 3rd parties should have their own victory conditions and thus be 3rd parties. But lets say you are green like the king who was also town, and you are on the right track so besides Angela the other two are your red named scum. Then I'm glad i'm not them since the town has six power roles (and counting) who mostly know each other, and what the vanillas are actually survivors who mostly know each other (and may be recruited for the town).

As (very) brief look at wikipedia leads me to think if Edocsil is supposed to be your lover he was either chosen at random to help balance your power or Wercool is using lovers in more of a you'll die if he stops giving you the antidote sense (Romantic).

[safariguy5]

Look, I'm just playing how my role pm told me to, not how I necessarily wanted to. I could have lied about my role to cover up the confusing parts of it, but how would I defend myself otherwise?

[wercool]

annuocement
the king should be blue. blue is town green is third party and red is scum.

1.vodean mafia Kull 1 (Vig/vote stealer)mod-killed day 2
3.Rainbow Eater 3rd party Dwarve (vanilla)mod-killed day 2
9. captainwalrus 3rd party human (vanilla)mod-killed day 2
4.cubfanpgh town Guard (Jailkeepers)mod-killed day 2
10. naxus town King 1(double voter/1 shot vig/joat)killed night 1

new version

1.vodean mafia Kull 1 (Vig/vote stealer)mod-killed day 2
3.Rainbow Eater 3rd party Dwarve (vanilla)mod-killed day 2
9. captainwalrus 3rd party human (vanilla)mod-killed day 2
4.cubfanpgh town Guard (Jailkeepers)mod-killed day 2
10. naxus town King 1(double voter/1 shot vig/joat)killed night 1

sorry about that

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Well that makes three allies nearly dead and one dead over the course of two days....and I have to claim twice, but at least that's a third of the players clear. (for now )

[duday53]

Okay, now that we have clarified that blue is town, red is scum, and green is 3rd party. I check my role pm again, and I'm 3rd party..

[cena-rules]

Ok, so hands up if you have a role pm with a red name