Lunar War [GP, G, X] files on p.1

[Gilligan]

I think the landing sites need to be moved 1 px to the right... on the plus side, all the other territories are looking good to me, I don't see anything else that needs moving. Good job.

Alright, you got it.

[natty dread]

Oh! IN2 needs to move 1 down... sorry I didn't notice this before.

Also, can you post the large version coords as well?

[Gilligan]

Oh! IN2 needs to move 1 down... sorry I didn't notice this before.

Also, can you post the large version coords as well?

I'm sort of surprised I didn't notice it either...It's too early!

[natty dread]

Oh! IN2 needs to move 1 down... sorry I didn't notice this before.

Also, can you post the large version coords as well?

I'm sort of surprised I didn't notice it either...It's too early!

Oh, ok... well post them when you're done then

Also, I wonder when are we getting a mod review... There has been nothing but XML work being done for a while and everyone seems to be satisfied with the map, so why are we still sitting in the graphics workshop?

[natty dread]

I won't be working on this for the next 2 weeks as I won't have web access. Any feedback is still welcome and will be addressed when I return.

[Gilligan]

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[natty dread]

Thanks Gilligan.

On another note... can we finally get a mod review on this? Is there something that is holding up this map? There has been practically no graphical work to do for weeks.

[thenobodies80]

can we finally get a mod review on this? Is there something that is holding up this map? There has been practically no graphical work to do for weeks.

Welcome back Natty!
Don't worry your map is on my to do list, I just preferred to wait your return before posting.

Nobodies

[natty dread]

Welcome back Natty!
Don't worry your map is on my to do list, I just preferred to wait your return before posting.

Nobodies

Oh yeah, I kinda figured that might be the case, but thought it best to shake things up a bit...

& thanks, it's good to be back

[isaiah40]

Waiting, waiting ...

[thenobodies80]

ok, sorry to keep you waiting

Looking at the map I have two different feelings in the same time, the first tells me that the map looks good, the other tells me that there is still something to improve.
In the first post I find an excellent introduction that provides context and creates the right feeling to play on the map, unfortunately, this introduction will not be available during the game, if you could add a text like that to explain why there's a war on the moon, then it would be great!
Moreover, the map should look futuristic, but looking at it (no offense) seems to me to watch an episode of Thunderbirds nowadays. I think that the cause is the legend....it doesn't look futuristic...it's more a retro sci-fi look, maybe it was good in the 80's but not now, imo. Everything looks blurred and the metal effect (is it metal right?) on the legend looks more like the lunar ground than metal, also all those small squares....they look like my old electronic battleship game that i used to play when i was child...
Again the shuttles look blurred and they appear like suppository with wings.
The title font is really jagged, specially on the A letters.
The belligerents list in the legend is really hard to read if you look at it for more than a second (specially on the small version)
Try to make more prominent and visible the titles of the legend, some parts (like bRIEfing) get lost...

On the opposite side, i really like the moon/playable part of the map.

Although some of them may not please you, i hope that these thoughts can help you to maximize the potential of your map.
Looking forward your next update

Nobodies

[natty dread]

Thanks nobodies, I'll try to address these concerns with my next update...

Legend: I like the legend frame, you might have a point about the background though. I think I'll change the background & the font of the window titles, this should do it I hope...

Shuttles: I've spent lots of time working on the shuttles, according to people's feedback, and I was under the impression that most were satisfied with them now... if this is not so please let me know what more I should do with them.

Title: I could try redoing the title, although I kinda like the style of it.

Belligerents list: this is a tricky part, there's just so little room for it. Perhaps I should scrap it alltogether? I don't know that it is vital as gameplay information... The XML territory names are already in the form "USA landing site US1" etc. so they contain both the country name and the actual territory name on the map, so I'm not sure if the country names need to be specifically identified on the legend...

i really like the moon/playable part of the map.

Good, that means the biggest hurdle has already been overcome

[natty dread]

Does this improve things?

v35

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As for

In the first post I find an excellent introduction that provides context and creates the right feeling to play on the map, unfortunately, this introduction will not be available during the game, if you could add a text like that to explain why there's a war on the moon, then it would be great!

I'm not a huge fan on big walls of text... Really, most people on CC don't seem to that much care for the "story" of the map, they just want to play the map... the basic story here should be quite self evident: it's the future, countries are waging war on the moon. What else is there to know?

Anyway, I might not be opposed to adding a small length of text, but I'm not quite sure how to word it...

edit: how about:

In 2060 the superpowers of the world have found a new battleground: the moon with it's vast resources of Helium-3, the new fusion fuel.

[isaiah40]

I like the background to the computer screenish type information windows It makes the text there a lot easier to read IMHO!

As for the story line on the map, I think that the title says it all - there is a war going on on the moon! Just my (un)biased 2 cents worth.

[natty dread]

I like the background to the computer screenish type information windows It makes the text there a lot easier to read IMHO!

Yeah, I'm also quite satisfied with how it turned out. At first I didn't like the blue colour but it actually is a lot better for the text.

As for the story line on the map, I think that the title says it all - there is a war going on on the moon! Just my (un)biased 2 cents worth.

I feel the same way, but if the mods insist it I'm not too opposed to adding a short intro...

[ender516]

edit: how about:

In 2060 the superpowers of the world have found a new battleground: the moon with it's vast resources of Helium-3, the new fusion fuel.

This sets the stage well, but if you use this, remember you want "its" (possessive form of "it"), not "it's" (contraction of "it is").

[natty dread]

Ah, Ender the Paragon of Grammar saves the day again!

[natty dread]

...eh, I don't know. However I put it the text just seems cheesy and pasted-on... I don't know, it seems kinda redundant. It is 2060 - this can be seen from the title. Superpowers are fighting on the moon - this can be seen from the 8 countries on the map. They're fighting for Helium-3, duh, there are He-3 mines all over the map and they are the game objective...

Is this text really necessary?

This is how it would look:

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... and I still spelled it "it's"

[isaiah40]

I didn't see that Let's get this thing into BETA!! Well, okay how about Final Forge first!

[MarshalNey]

I actually like the flavor text; please keep it. Although, there's a star behind one of the 'o's in 'Moon' that make it look like 'Moan'. And if you wanted, you could make the font/color look more dramatic...

If you think the mention of Helium-3 seems redundant, then perhaps you could substitute a noun that explains why the helium is important. Really, most players will be in the dark about that- helium is the stuff in balloons... why are they fighting over it?

So, maybe say, "...the Moon and its vast deposits of fusion fuel..."

[natty dread]

Really, most players will be in the dark about that- helium is the stuff in balloons... why are they fighting over it?

Well those people probably won't know what fusion fuel is either...

[natty dread]

This is it...

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[ender516]

Ah, Ender the Paragon of Grammar saves the day again!

Hey, better me than some faceless grammar Nazi who flies in during Beta to embarrass you.

This is looking great!

[Industrial Helix]

I really like the blue background to the legend, nice improvement!

[natty dread]

I really like the blue background to the legend, nice improvement!

This is looking great!

Thanks guys

Hope we get this to FF soon.


btw. I just noticed, this map has now been exactly 9 months in development. Isn't it about time to birth this baby?