MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

[Senfive]

Only thing I can think of atm is that there is a day SK. Why else such a fast night with no sleep, and the continuation of day killings. I honestly think VGM has some explaining to do since the night came and went and he/she is still around after you post about wait until night....

[moz976]

I would like to know what Marv, Senfive, and VGM's xmen characters are.

this may or may not help us but I don't think it will hurt to ask.

[Senfive]

I would like to know what Marv, Senfive, and VGM's xmen characters are.

this may or may not help us but I don't think it will hurt to ask.

I already claimed what it was. go back through and you will see it.

[moz976]

wouldn't it be easier just to say it again?

I am Angel.

[Marvaddin]

Im Scott Summers, AKA Cyclops.

Wow, the night lasted for like 20 minutes...

About people still alive...
Its curious how AK had the lynch result like yesterday this time, and delayed the announce until 1 hour ago... This looks like a tip that Andy can really be a pro town Mayor.

In fact, I think that now we shouldnt care about hide our roles. If I remember well, Andy claimed to be a mayor, Senfive claimed to be a Hider, and I claimed to be a vanilla townie. I cant remember about the others, and I wont check all these pages. But lets share our roles, people. Of course someone will be lying, but I think its still a good way.

Moz, what are you saying about clean myself? I said already, I had not the feeling that trestain was so scummy, but I have announced I would vote to him, because I wouldnt support a no lynch. So, I was giving to any other person the chance to vote. I think this makes sure that I didnt vote to clean myself, or otherwise I would vote at the first chance, dont you think?

Anyway, why do you believe the 3rd people to vote, for example, would be more reliable? And you are forgetting something... if we still had 2 mafia members, what makes you think that both would be from same team, so one could vote to the other to "clean" himself? I mean, if they are from different teams, one could even start the lynch bandwagon, as he would do for any townie.

In fact, to me looks like you dislike the fact you are one of my main suspects and are retaliating... even asking for the names, that were never seriously considered in this game, for what? Possibly give vgm more ammo to talk about his theory and create a trap, with more bad feelings about him?

Oh, and senfive is the nightcrawler, if I remember well.

[vgmmaster]

I was certain that my gut feeling was correct about Trestain, and indeed it was.

Basically, I was saying either the town needs to trust in me and my role, or get me out of the town, if everyone is still going to worry about me in the back of their mind. I'd rather not be a worry if you all are going to be paranoid about me.

Also VGM, the mafia may not get a shot this night, as it was pointed out by someone the 'day' mafia might be the only thing left (Hence the reason sully died today). Thus, the night will be a calm night. But if there is a death, we may be looking at everything wrong.


--Andy

Senfive, read the bolded part. In my opinion, I belive Andy is foreshadowing something here. He mentions about a day mafia. Yes, I believe that may be correct, but if my suspicion is correct, all of the mafia members are dead (8 total). Perhaps I may be misreading Andy's post, but I wonder if he is a day SK.

I believe there is only one way to find out.

VOTE: Andy

My vote is not a vote to lynch nor do I want a lynch. My vote is to see if my suspicion is correct. I can't say much, due to certain reasons, but I believe I may have something here.

Also, my name is Professor Charles Xavier.

[dussle]

trestain, (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia") has been lynched.

Send in your NIGHT choices!

I reall thought he was innnocent!! Nice job guys!!!

[dussle]

And if anyone's wondering, I'm the Juggernaut, who's real name I think is Cain Marcum, I'm forgetting, but that sound right.

[vgmmaster]

And if anyone's wondering, I'm the Juggernaut, who's real name I think is Cain Marcum, I'm forgetting, but that sound right.

Interesting.

If we do use the name theory, you just became suspicious. Now, Trestain pushed against my vote theory quite strongly, and oddly enough, he was mafia. (Somebody who I expected and voted for on 2 or 3 different days as well).

I did have an idea concerning my andy vote, but I have something else in mind.

Unvote: Andy
FOS: Andy
SFOS: Dussle

If my name theory is correct, you are scum. I refrained from voting against you as I want to see what other people think, but I believe everybody else claimed, and they have seemingly Pro-Town names.

[dussle]

And if anyone's wondering, I'm the Juggernaut, who's real name I think is Cain Marcum, I'm forgetting, but that sound right.

Interesting.

If we do use the name theory, you just became suspicious. Now, Trestain pushed against my vote theory quite strongly, and oddly enough, he was mafia. (Somebody who I expected and voted for on 2 or 3 different days as well).

I did have an idea concerning my andy vote, but I have something else in mind.

Unvote: Andy
FOS: Andy
SFOS: Dussle

If my name theory is correct, you are scum. I refrained from voting against you as I want to see what other people think, but I believe everybody else claimed, and they have seemingly Pro-Town names.

Ok, whiz kid, we've been through this like a million times. The name thing is a lie. Speaking of which who is the Juggernaut? Any X-Men nerds wanna enlighten me?

[vgmmaster]

And if anyone's wondering, I'm the Juggernaut, who's real name I think is Cain Marcum, I'm forgetting, but that sound right.

Interesting.

If we do use the name theory, you just became suspicious. Now, Trestain pushed against my vote theory quite strongly, and oddly enough, he was mafia. (Somebody who I expected and voted for on 2 or 3 different days as well).

I did have an idea concerning my andy vote, but I have something else in mind.

Unvote: Andy
FOS: Andy
SFOS: Dussle

If my name theory is correct, you are scum. I refrained from voting against you as I want to see what other people think, but I believe everybody else claimed, and they have seemingly Pro-Town names.

Ok, whiz kid, we've been through this like a million times. The name thing is a lie. Speaking of which who is the Juggernaut? Any X-Men nerds wanna enlighten me?

Remember when Trestain's name was Pyro? Pyro never allied with the x-men, and Trestain was a mafia member oddly enough. Coincidence, perhaps so.

However, Sully (aka Jamie Madrox), was a doctor. He was a doctor's (Moira MacTaggert) assistant. Is it still a coincidence? I don't know.

Plus, Trestain pushed strongly againsy my theory. Oddly enough, you're doing the same exact thing.

In most cases, I'd believe you were a townie (considering your role was replaced multiple times), but with this information, I believe you are the day SK.

VOTE: Dussle

[dussle]

And if anyone's wondering, I'm the Juggernaut, who's real name I think is Cain Marcum, I'm forgetting, but that sound right.

Interesting.

If we do use the name theory, you just became suspicious. Now, Trestain pushed against my vote theory quite strongly, and oddly enough, he was mafia. (Somebody who I expected and voted for on 2 or 3 different days as well).

I did have an idea concerning my andy vote, but I have something else in mind.

Unvote: Andy
FOS: Andy
SFOS: Dussle

If my name theory is correct, you are scum. I refrained from voting against you as I want to see what other people think, but I believe everybody else claimed, and they have seemingly Pro-Town names.

Ok, whiz kid, we've been through this like a million times. The name thing is a lie. Speaking of which who is the Juggernaut? Any X-Men nerds wanna enlighten me?

Remember when Trestain's name was Pyro? Pyro never allied with the x-men, and Trestain was a mafia member oddly enough. Coincidence, perhaps so.

However, Sully (aka Jamie Madrox), was a doctor. He was a doctor's (Moira MacTaggert) assistant. Is it still a coincidence? I don't know.

Plus, Trestain pushed strongly againsy my theory. Oddly enough, you're doing the same exact thing.

In most cases, I'd believe you were a townie (considering your role was replaced multiple times), but with this information, I believe you are the day SK.

VOTE: Dussle

I haven't pushed against your stupid theory until you voted for me until the influence of said stupid theory. Btw, you didn't unvote your other random suspect, Andy.

[vgmmaster]

Um, look at the quote in your previous post. I did unvote Andy.

Also, my theory was correct against Trestain. I believe it could work against you as well.

If you (or anybody else) have any better ideas, I'm all ears. However, I'm not getting a good vibe from you currently.

I do suspect you and Andy the most out of anybody however at this current moment.

[reverend_kyle]

[trestain]

bah

i knew i sj=hould have made up a name. enjoy the rest of the game

[vgmmaster]

bah

i knew i sj=hould have made up a name. enjoy the rest of the game

You tried to fight against me long and hard Trestain. Good game.

Vgm 2 - Trestain - 0

[reverend_kyle]

bah

i knew i sj=hould have made up a name. enjoy the rest of the game

You tried to fight against me long and hard Trestain. Good game.

Vgm 2 - Trestain - 0

Reverend kyle 98..

I'd pwn your ass.

[Senfive]

And if anyone's wondering, I'm the Juggernaut, who's real name I think is Cain Marcum, I'm forgetting, but that sound right.

Interesting.

If we do use the name theory, you just became suspicious. Now, Trestain pushed against my vote theory quite strongly, and oddly enough, he was mafia. (Somebody who I expected and voted for on 2 or 3 different days as well).

I did have an idea concerning my andy vote, but I have something else in mind.

Unvote: Andy
FOS: Andy
SFOS: Dussle

If my name theory is correct, you are scum. I refrained from voting against you as I want to see what other people think, but I believe everybody else claimed, and they have seemingly Pro-Town names.

Ok, whiz kid, we've been through this like a million times. The name thing is a lie. Speaking of which who is the Juggernaut? Any X-Men nerds wanna enlighten me?

Remember when Trestain's name was Pyro? Pyro never allied with the x-men, and Trestain was a mafia member oddly enough. Coincidence, perhaps so.

However, Sully (aka Jamie Madrox), was a doctor. He was a doctor's (Moira MacTaggert) assistant. Is it still a coincidence? I don't know.

Plus, Trestain pushed strongly againsy my theory. Oddly enough, you're doing the same exact thing.

In most cases, I'd believe you were a townie (considering your role was replaced multiple times), but with this information, I believe you are the day SK.

VOTE: Dussle

I haven't pushed against your stupid theory until you voted for me until the influence of said stupid theory. Btw, you didn't unvote your other random suspect, Andy.

I am still very very weary of you VGM but you might just might be on to something. I have to ponder about this. I still want to hear from Andy....

[Marvaddin]

Well, I dont really trust the names theory... but dussle is not reacting well when accused. And he never had participated really of the discussions, so I admit I cant read him properly. The single thing I consider a point favourable to him is the fact that many substitutions happened.

As Andy have been a bit cleaned to me by AK delay, my suspects now are just moz and from now dussle.

But, something I need to ask... vgm, whats your winning condition?

[vgmmaster]

Concerning my win condition, I'm unable to copy it word from word if that is what you want as that pm was auto-deleted because my inbox is too full.

However, my win condition is to eliminate all mafia.

Senfive, I don't blame you for wanting to suspect me. Unless I'm mistaken, my name theory is the reason why, correct? If that is so, then there are two things you can't deny. Trestain (Pyro) who never allied with the x-men was mafia. Sully (Jamie Madrox) was a doctor's assistant and ended up having the doctor power role.

You can be skeptical all you want, but you have to admit, it's very difficult to have so many coincidences, correct?

Concerning Andy though, I have an idea. However, this is my opinion. Dussle in my opinion, is acting the scummiest. I saw we vote for him. Then, for the next day, my plan will go into action (I don't know if it'll work or not though). You see, Andy's foreshadowing and his reverse psychology post makes me a little suspicious of him. The reverse psychology post makes me think he could possibly be suspicious as oddly enough, a mafia member in another game did the same exact thing. Plus, I think Andy may be using his high level of experience to throw us off guard, and therefore make it safer for himself if he is indeed scum. Plus, the think Houssam mentioned also makes me wonder if Andy is possibly the corrupt mayor. Earlier, people thought Houssam was just crazy. Now, I think Houssam may possibly be correct about Andy. After all, he was correct about Wicked (being one of the two evils).

Concerning Dussle though, we can say this. Dussle doesn't seem to fare well under pressure. It's possible he's just a newb (I never heard of him before this game), but it's also possible that he's scum. Also, only four votes are needed for a lynch, so the panic may be acceptable. Plus, if we follow the name theory, Dussle's name (juggernaut) is the scummiest of all of the claimed names. However, Marv mentioned that he was replaced many times. This is true, yet, just because they were replaced doesn't mean they can't be scum.

In my opinion, Andy and Dussle appear to be the scummiest at the moment. One thing I am curious about though. Who should we lynch first, Andy or Dussle? Andy has the experience and I think he could be using that in his favor. Dussle fits as scum, mainly due to the name theory.

I'm wlling to vote for Andy or Dussle the most. I just am split as to where I want to place my vote. Also, if I am day-killed, I believe that makes Dussle and/or Andy even more suspicious.

For now, I'll continue to vote for Dussle, but if we want to lynch Andy, I have no problem with that.

Also, Senfive, I wish that you trust me here. In my opinion, you're really the only person I think I can trust. The other people here, I suspect to one degree or another (some evidence is better than others as well).

If there's one other person I may possibly trust, it's marv. But that's only because I suspect everybody else more then him as well.

[dussle]

You can be skeptical all you want, but you have to admit, it's very difficult to have so many coincidences, correct?

2 matches out of so many deaths? Hardly difficult.

Concerning Dussle though, we can say this. Dussle doesn't seem to fare well under pressure. It's possible he's just a newb (I never heard of him before this game), but it's also possible that he's scum. Also, only four votes are needed for a lynch, so the panic may be acceptable.

Yes, I don't fare well under pressure when it takes three people swayed by you to kill me, but so far your only thing against me is the name theory. Do you really think lynching me on such a shaky, unproven theory is necessary? Sure, I wouldn't be too much of a loss to the town, I'll give you guys that. However, if the mafia is someone under the radar who could very easily outsmart all of us, I wouldn't want to die in the off chance that it'll take every one of us to kill the last/last few mafia.

[vgmmaster]

I only used Sully and Trestain as examples. Most of the other names match as well to some extent with the exception of one, possibly two names.

That's why I said "many coincidences".

Plus, 8 mafia members are already dead. I'm not really sure if there are any more. If I had to guess, there's one remaining killer, and it's a SK.

Also, here's something to think about as well. There were no nightkills. Either are killer is a daykiller, can only kill on certain numbered nights or has a certain amount of kills at his/her disposal, or there is an extra doc and they protected the right person.

[Senfive]

FOS Andy been more than 24 hours and have yet to hear from him on the short night. Also Moz what do you think about what VGM is posting? Is it all to get away from the fact that people suspect VGM at one point and we wants to shift it. VGM I will go with your name theory here but if you are wrong and I pray that you aren't then you are next. is that a deal? are you willing to put your life on the line since we only have one more day after this?

[vgmmaster]

I posted the possibility that I'm willing to vote for either Andy or Dussle. I'm more or less waiting for the town to decide what the best action is.

As I said earlier, the name theory points at Dussle.

Some possible evidence points at Andy.

[AndyDufresne]

Just to let everyone know, I'm around now. Had a busy day yesterday, and couldn't log on to Conquer Club. Even missed a turn in one of my games because of it. Anyways, I'll catch up and post in a few minutes.


--Andy