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BigBallinStalin wrote:
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AndyDufresne wrote:I don't think I see the logic that because some vague threatening they in the world burn American flags/Christian Bibles/United States Constitutions, that that perfect way to combat this is...with more fire! Yeah!

There is something also very alarming by the very existence of the question: "Why isn't it okay to burn the Qur'an?"

"Why isn't it okay beat up homosexuals?"
"Why isn't it okay rape women in Congo?"
"Why isn't it okay to assassinate rights workers in Russia?"


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There is a huge, huge difference between supporting an action and supporting someone's freedom to do an action. Learn this difference. There's no need to push your morality onto other people.
[fail]Yeah don't push your morality on me, it's my freedom-protected right to rape rights workers, beat up women in Russia and assassinate homosexuals in Congo. [/fail]
i made another post while you were thinking about how to respond to my first one. if you read it then you might learn about initiation of force and why the two are different.
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jonesthecurl wrote:What's the answer?
I know!! All 3 of Andy's examples deal with harming other people while the original question is only harming an inanimate object. "Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose."
Just like Terry Jones's right to burn copies of the Qur'an stops just before my friend in Afghanistan's right not to be shot in the head by a pissed-off Taliban sniper.

I don't disagree with his right to do it. What I do disagree with is that doing it increases the chance that my friend won't be coming home.
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Night Strike wrote:
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Nightstrike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles...


He is a racist. He simply enjoys confirming it on a regular basis. No doubt he will eventually go too far and embarrass all of Team CC in doing so. In my opinion he just has. In any case, I hope he truly believes what he wrote because on my signature its viewable 7500 times, unless of course its deemed racist and unfit for the CC forums, as I personally think it should be.
I would highly prefer that if you want to spread that I'm a racist around the forum via your signature you should at least include my actual comment and not just one half of the sentence. The full quote is
Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?
but I would accept you just stopping at the first question mark. You can't cry racist if you have to edit the comment to make it fit your agenda. Same comment goes to AoG.
I made no comment about your quote in my signature. For all I know people think I agree with the sentiment. In any case, its a compound sentence and what comes after does not in any way minimize the statement made, which is that you think all muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended. The reason you are presenting this ridiculous statement is irrelevant, its that you made it that is important.

You try to justify your hatred of muslims because muslims in other countries spew hatred and are religious fanatics. Well, I agree with you there. Religious fanatics are extremist fanatics, and in my opinion are bordering on psychotic. I have no problem saying that ANYONE of any religion that is out burning bibles has lost touch with the primary teachings of their religion.

I think you have completely lost touch and dont understand why people are arguing against such reprehensible posts as yours. I think you have somehow become so entrenched in a liberal vs conservative battle, you simply fight the conservative side without even thinking and assume anyone suggesting a liberal idea is a liberal and will fight for the sake of fighting. I think what you fail to understand, and have proven on a regular basis, is that people are simply arguing their opinion on the subject, and not trying to put a liberal spin on it. You also seem to think that as people defend hatred and racism against muslims that they accept and do not denounce hatred and racism BY muslims, which is not at all the case. The people fighting against racism, and hatred and stereotyping an entire group by the actions of parts of that group as you have done, are fighting against ALL hatred, racism and stereotyping, because in the end, these are the very foundations of all hatred, and all war. It is because we have seen history repeat itself, we have seen different groups fight and kill each other and often the only reason being that one little difference, which is that their parents were born in a different place, and they have a very, very, very slightly different genetic structure. It is because they want those muslims that do to end their bible burnings, their flag burnings, their hatred of jews or christians. They want those christians and jews that do, to end their koran burnings of muslims which only fuel the fire of hatred, and can only lead to more war, more killing, more hatred, and all...absolutely all of it is for absolutely nothing. All religions are based on making the world better and treating other people well. There are exceptions in every bible, but the overwhelming text preaches not killing people because you disagree with them, but that is exactly what some in every religion do, and thereby burn the WORD of their own bibles. Its of course easier to see this not being constrained by any one bible and not constrained by any technicality and seeing the rational side of the entire situation, which is why it is the liberals that tend to argue these points, more often than some conservatives, assuming we are talking about conservatives that are constrained by the Bible, and self-righteously assume that hatred, killing and war are justified if protecting its word, when its very clear, it preaches the exact opposite message.

So, Im sorry for that massive paragraph, but that is one thought, and one reason, and the main reason why your quote, which was very much a separate statement stands. Its because there is nothing you can write after that part of the statement to justify it, except perhaps, "this is an example of a racist and ridiculous stereotyping of an entire group, of which obviously not all members, or anywhere near all members are guilty of making threats or violence every time their bible is threatened."

Im sorry you said it too. Its beyond disappointing to read, as all the racist statements Ive seen you type have been. Ive been very, very fortunate to have been raised in a home with someone who actively fought against racism, and put himself on the line physically to fight the injustice of it. Ive been very fortunate to be surrounded by people who are educated and who understand the ridiculous nature of all racism. What I did not know is that there really were ignorant people out there like yourself, who will essentially push such racism and hatred, and in this case the clear goal being to simply push a political agenda. It is one of the main reasons I must leave this place, because while I truly hope the world is not as corrupt as it seems in here at times, it is very clear I will not be able to hold on to that delusion for much longer if I stay, and I very much would like to hold on to the delusion that people like you are no longer part of society. Had you retracted, or said you misspoke, that would be fine. No doubt Ive done the same a thousand times, but since you obviously are defending your statement, and somehow think the last part of the compound sentence justifies the first part, Ill leave what you wrote, and allow others to form their own opinions.
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AAFitz wrote:
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Army of GOD wrote:No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.
No this is not sterotyping and it's quite accurate. The average Muslim will get very angry when their faith is attacked.
Utterly ridiculous as always. For one thing, being angry is hardly comparable to making threats and causing violence. For another, its ridiculous to say the average muslim gets any more angry than any average Christian. In fact, in this case, we have a group of Christians burning books, and many posting against muslims as if they all act a certain way as a group.

But then, you dont really care about reality, only spreading hate because youve chosen a side and will say anything to spread that hate in hopes for a fight...even though it is completely against the very religion of Christianity which you pretend to defend.

Now that is accurate.
First of all, if any group gets more (angry, excited, etc) than any other group, then a larger amount of that group will naturally get over excited.

Second, the example of "burning books" doesn't really count as an example of anger.

Simply put, the facts speak for themselves. Any attack on Christians generally gets mild protest by Christians.

Any attack on Islam gets riots in Indonesia. Make a funny movie ... RIOTS. Draw a silly comic ... RIOTS.

This really has nothing to do with terrorism, although like governments terrorists will exploit it.
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tzor wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
tzor wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.
No this is not sterotyping and it's quite accurate. The average Muslim will get very angry when their faith is attacked.
Utterly ridiculous as always. For one thing, being angry is hardly comparable to making threats and causing violence. For another, its ridiculous to say the average muslim gets any more angry than any average Christian. In fact, in this case, we have a group of Christians burning books, and many posting against muslims as if they all act a certain way as a group.

But then, you dont really care about reality, only spreading hate because youve chosen a side and will say anything to spread that hate in hopes for a fight...even though it is completely against the very religion of Christianity which you pretend to defend.

Now that is accurate.
First of all, if any group gets more (angry, excited, etc) than any other group, then a larger amount of that group will naturally get over excited.

Second, the example of "burning books" doesn't really count as an example of anger.

Simply put, the facts speak for themselves. Any attack on Christians generally gets mild protest by Christians.

Any attack on Islam gets riots in Indonesia. Make a funny movie ... RIOTS. Draw a silly comic ... RIOTS.

This really has nothing to do with terrorism, although like governments terrorists will exploit it.
First of all, your first of all, means nothing to the situation, and certainly depends upon the group, and what is making them angry. There is no reason to assume that is the case.

Second, burning books is the epitome of anger, especially in this case. It is destruction for the sake of making a point, and one that they wont stand for another religion for their land.

The rest is irrelevant to anything whether its perfectly accurate or not.

The point that you have completely avoided, is that the statement suggests all muslims use threats and violence every time their bible is attacked. You said it wasnt stereotyping. It was a stupid statement on your part.
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AndyDufresne wrote:Fighting ignorance with ignorance never works.


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Oh fine, Andy. Why not just shut this whole forum down then?


PS that was a great post fitz. Probably wasted here, however.
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What's wrong with you people. Don't make me take tzor's side.

When has explosm.net and the cyanide and happiness comic ever made the news by causing riots and bombing? Oh wait never.


Now you're all lying to yourselves just to keep from admitting retard christians are only going to kill you if you're an abortionist. I have to admit I prefer that to one blowing up a crowd anywhere.
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2dimes wrote:What's wrong with you people. Don't make me take tzor's side.

When has explosm.net and the cyanide and happiness comic ever made the news by causing riots and bombing? Oh wait never.


Now you're all lying to yourselves just to keep from admitting retard christians are only going to kill you if you're an abortionist. I have to admit I prefer that to one blowing up a crowd anywhere.
dimes, if you love tzor that much why don't you marry him?
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heavycola wrote:
2dimes wrote:What's wrong with you people. Don't make me take tzor's side.

When has explosm.net and the cyanide and happiness comic ever made the news by causing riots and bombing? Oh wait never.


Now you're all lying to yourselves just to keep from admitting retard christians are only going to kill you if you're an abortionist. I have to admit I prefer that to one blowing up a crowd anywhere.
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Woodruff wrote:
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Army of GOD wrote:No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.
No this is not sterotyping and it's quite accurate. The average Muslim will get very angry when their faith is attacked.
You definitely run with a different Muslim crowd than I do. And it absolutely was stereotyping....without question.
Even if it's 99.9999999999999% accurate it's stereotyping. Being accurate even for a huge sample size doesn't make it ok.

If you prejudge anyone based on the people they are similar or even related to it still could be wrong. Do you sexually assault teen age boys? You know because there were catholics in the news for it. You can PM me if you don't want the answer to stoke the boiler on the train of hate.

Woody, I must run with different muslims too. Any time I have angered a Jehova's witness or Morman dude it was quite a bit different from the lebonese guys. I have not met any but one of the Lebonese guys I worked with told me about his trip to Syria and even he said those guys are pretty scary and were mean to him. I'm sorry but there hasn't been decent raging christian group in quite a while.


Face it regardless of how offensive the Westburo Baptists are I'd rather see them at a funeral for my family member than a suicide bomber. Maybe I'm just a suicide bomber bigot but I'm going to have to stereotype them and say I'm not a fan.
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Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
tzor wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.
No this is not sterotyping and it's quite accurate. The average Muslim will get very angry when their faith is attacked.
Utterly ridiculous as always. For one thing, being angry is hardly comparable to making threats and causing violence. For another, its ridiculous to say the average muslim gets any more angry than any average Christian. In fact, in this case, we have a group of Christians burning books, and many posting against muslims as if they all act a certain way as a group.

But then, you dont really care about reality, only spreading hate because youve chosen a side and will say anything to spread that hate in hopes for a fight...even though it is completely against the very religion of Christianity which you pretend to defend.

Now that is accurate.
Both sides have legitimate reasons. It's their right to burn the Koran, no matter what I think about it. I would only like the media to please FUCKING STOP (really, does the world need to hear about this60 times a day?) painting this like America is holding a Koran burning, when it is really just one dude burning books
I haven't actually heard it said once that "America is holding a Koran burning" nor anything remotely similar to that...what news are you watching?
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BigBallinStalin wrote: "If you get down to it, you'll realize that white Christians are responsible for almost everything that is wrong with the world today.
I would have to strongly disagree with this statement. Power-mongers are responsible for almost everything that is wrong with the world today. Some Christians just happen to also be power-mongers.
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tzor wrote:Second, the example of "burning books" doesn't really count as an example of anger.
Why wouldn't it?
tzor wrote:Simply put, the facts speak for themselves. Any attack on Christians generally gets mild protest by Christians.
Any attack on Islam gets riots in Indonesia. Make a funny movie ... RIOTS. Draw a silly comic ... RIOTS.
This really has nothing to do with terrorism, although like governments terrorists will exploit it.
I disagree...it has EVERYTHING to do with terrorism. It is the extremists who are doing the threatening over things like the silly comics. Christianity happens to have not nearly as many extremists any longer, and so not nearly as much is made of it.
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Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote: Both sides have legitimate reasons. It's their right to burn the Koran, no matter what I think about it. I would only like the media to please FUCKING STOP (really, does the world need to hear about this60 times a day?) painting this like America is holding a Koran burning, when it is really just one dude burning books
I haven't actually heard it said once that "America is holding a Koran burning" nor anything remotely similar to that...what news are you watching?
Agreed, I think the media should be exposing the guy and his little church group as the isolated thing they are, so the idea that they represent the rest of the US&A can be properly challenged and dismissed.
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2dimes wrote:Woody, I must run with different muslims too. Any time I have angered a Jehova's witness or Morman dude it was quite a bit different from the lebonese guys. I have not met any but one of the Lebonese guys I worked with told me about his trip to Syria and even he said those guys are pretty scary and were mean to him. I'm sorry but there hasn't been decent raging christian group in quite a while.
You must, because the Muslims that I know find those various comic strips to range from funny to stupid to mildly offensive. They're certainly not worked up about them at all.
2dimes wrote:Face it regardless of how offensive the Westburo Baptists are I'd rather see them at a funeral for my family member than a suicide bomber.
Oh, no argument. Muslim extremists are worse than Christian extremists...I agree with that wholeheartedly. It doesn't change at all the point that "the average Muslim" doesn't react all the way tzor is trying to imply they do.
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Well, I've been pretty carefull to make sure I don't offend muslims regarding Islam. Partly because I've seen them get riled about other lesser things and would not want to find out I'm dealing with the wrong dude and just never knew. On the other hand I wouldn't fear slighting the pope, any westburo dude, or the top of any christian church you choose to their face. I know I'm not going to make the news dead or recovering.
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BigBallinStalin wrote: "If you get down to it, you'll realize that white Christians are responsible for almost everything that is wrong with the world today.
I would have to strongly disagree with this statement. Power-mongers are responsible for almost everything that is wrong with the world today. Some Christians just happen to also be power-mongers.
This one is tricky. I would say (and I realise I'm stereotyping) the real powerfull people that are running the nato military seem to publicly claim the Christian label. Though it's changing up some now that it's become ok to admit "I went to church because my mom made me go." I watched the movie "W" and it claims George is a "born again christian."

The public claim "I'm christian." goes for Obama and pretty much every president it's standard. I think even Bill Clinton went to church didn't he?
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AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Nightstrike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles...


He is a racist. He simply enjoys confirming it on a regular basis. No doubt he will eventually go too far and embarrass all of Team CC in doing so. In my opinion he just has. In any case, I hope he truly believes what he wrote because on my signature its viewable 7500 times, unless of course its deemed racist and unfit for the CC forums, as I personally think it should be.
I would highly prefer that if you want to spread that I'm a racist around the forum via your signature you should at least include my actual comment and not just one half of the sentence. The full quote is
Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?
but I would accept you just stopping at the first question mark. You can't cry racist if you have to edit the comment to make it fit your agenda. Same comment goes to AoG.
I made no comment about your quote in my signature. For all I know people think I agree with the sentiment. In any case, its a compound sentence and what comes after does not in any way minimize the statement made, which is that you think all muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended. The reason you are presenting this ridiculous statement is irrelevant, its that you made it that is important.

You try to justify your hatred of muslims because muslims in other countries spew hatred and are religious fanatics. Well, I agree with you there. Religious fanatics are extremist fanatics, and in my opinion are bordering on psychotic. I have no problem saying that ANYONE of any religion that is out burning bibles has lost touch with the primary teachings of their religion.

I think you have completely lost touch and dont understand why people are arguing against such reprehensible posts as yours. I think you have somehow become so entrenched in a liberal vs conservative battle, you simply fight the conservative side without even thinking and assume anyone suggesting a liberal idea is a liberal and will fight for the sake of fighting. I think what you fail to understand, and have proven on a regular basis, is that people are simply arguing their opinion on the subject, and not trying to put a liberal spin on it. You also seem to think that as people defend hatred and racism against muslims that they accept and do not denounce hatred and racism BY muslims, which is not at all the case. The people fighting against racism, and hatred and stereotyping an entire group by the actions of parts of that group as you have done, are fighting against ALL hatred, racism and stereotyping, because in the end, these are the very foundations of all hatred, and all war. It is because we have seen history repeat itself, we have seen different groups fight and kill each other and often the only reason being that one little difference, which is that their parents were born in a different place, and they have a very, very, very slightly different genetic structure. It is because they want those muslims that do to end their bible burnings, their flag burnings, their hatred of jews or christians. They want those christians and jews that do, to end their koran burnings of muslims which only fuel the fire of hatred, and can only lead to more war, more killing, more hatred, and all...absolutely all of it is for absolutely nothing. All religions are based on making the world better and treating other people well. There are exceptions in every bible, but the overwhelming text preaches not killing people because you disagree with them, but that is exactly what some in every religion do, and thereby burn the WORD of their own bibles. Its of course easier to see this not being constrained by any one bible and not constrained by any technicality and seeing the rational side of the entire situation, which is why it is the liberals that tend to argue these points, more often than some conservatives, assuming we are talking about conservatives that are constrained by the Bible, and self-righteously assume that hatred, killing and war are justified if protecting its word, when its very clear, it preaches the exact opposite message.

So, Im sorry for that massive paragraph, but that is one thought, and one reason, and the main reason why your quote, which was very much a separate statement stands. Its because there is nothing you can write after that part of the statement to justify it, except perhaps, "this is an example of a racist and ridiculous stereotyping of an entire group, of which obviously not all members, or anywhere near all members are guilty of making threats or violence every time their bible is threatened."

Im sorry you said it too. Its beyond disappointing to read, as all the racist statements Ive seen you type have been. Ive been very, very fortunate to have been raised in a home with someone who actively fought against racism, and put himself on the line physically to fight the injustice of it. Ive been very fortunate to be surrounded by people who are educated and who understand the ridiculous nature of all racism. What I did not know is that there really were ignorant people out there like yourself, who will essentially push such racism and hatred, and in this case the clear goal being to simply push a political agenda. It is one of the main reasons I must leave this place, because while I truly hope the world is not as corrupt as it seems in here at times, it is very clear I will not be able to hold on to that delusion for much longer if I stay, and I very much would like to hold on to the delusion that people like you are no longer part of society. Had you retracted, or said you misspoke, that would be fine. No doubt Ive done the same a thousand times, but since you obviously are defending your statement, and somehow think the last part of the compound sentence justifies the first part, Ill leave what you wrote, and allow others to form their own opinions.
Your entire diatribe still fails to answer the question about how a statement about Muslims is racist. Islam is a religion, not a race, so it's impossible to be racist towards a religion. Yes, the post was very probably a generalization/stereotype, but that has nothing to do with racism. Furthermore, I never once said I agreed with what this church group was doing in burning the Koran. I asked a simple comparison question about similar actions taken toward two different religions with very different responses to those actions. The fact that you see racism in a simple question about religion is pretty remarkable.
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saraith wrote:
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jonesthecurl wrote:What's the answer?
I know!! All 3 of Andy's examples deal with harming other people while the original question is only harming an inanimate object. "Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose."
Just like Terry Jones's right to burn copies of the Qur'an stops just before my friend in Afghanistan's right not to be shot in the head by a pissed-off Taliban sniper.

I don't disagree with his right to do it. What I do disagree with is that doing it increases the chance that my friend won't be coming home.
Actually, his right to burn it does not stop as you yourself mentioned in the 2nd sentence of your post. I hate the fact that people in America are allowed to burn flags as an act of protest (ceremonial burning of a worn flag is completely legitimate), but that does not give me the permission to retaliate against them or their family for doing it. The Taliban will kill American soldiers simply for being in that region because we took away their power to rule and enslave. If captured, they might blame it on American extremists burning the Koran, but I have a feeling it's safe to bet 99% of them would have been attacking American troops anyway. It's just another tool for the Taliban to attempt to justify their own actions of violence and oppression, but all attempts at justification do not take away from the fact that they are simply after power for themselves.
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Do you feel they're judging you unfairly based on a narrow criteria that doesn't really define you Nightstrike?
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Re: Koran burning will endanger US lives: Petraeus

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Night Strike wrote: Your entire diatribe still fails to answer the question about how a statement about Muslims is racist. Islam is a religion, not a race, so it's impossible to be racist towards a religion. Yes, the post was very probably a generalization/stereotype, but that has nothing to do with racism. Furthermore, I never once said I agreed with what this church group was doing in burning the Koran. I asked a simple comparison question about similar actions taken toward two different religions with very different responses to those actions. The fact that you see racism in a simple question about religion is pretty remarkable.

Don't worry, I already addressed that. It's not racism, but pretty bad bigotry, which is equally bad.

You essentially said "Muslims are angry and violent" which I think is equivalent to "Jews are greedy and selfish". Both of those statements aren't true, but they're still both offensive.
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Re: Koran burning will endanger US lives: Petraeus

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instead of burning the koran, why bother fucking around? Just burn thousands and thousands and millions of billions of Muslim babies.
and do it all sneaky like.
wrap them up in the stars and stripes set fire to the flags, the Muslims watching al Jazeera will cheer, then as the flags burn away, it exposes all the Muslim babies and then tvs across the middle east will be pelted with shoes. WW3 will commence that week and the world economic situation will be sorted.

Also, poor quality haircuts will be averted due to poor understanding of English. Everyone's a winner. (unless you just happen to be a Muslim baby wrapped in a gasoline soaked red white and blue flag)
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Re: Koran burning will endanger US lives: Petraeus

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Army of GOD wrote:
Night Strike wrote: Your entire diatribe still fails to answer the question about how a statement about Muslims is racist. Islam is a religion, not a race, so it's impossible to be racist towards a religion. Yes, the post was very probably a generalization/stereotype, but that has nothing to do with racism. Furthermore, I never once said I agreed with what this church group was doing in burning the Koran. I asked a simple comparison question about similar actions taken toward two different religions with very different responses to those actions. The fact that you see racism in a simple question about religion is pretty remarkable.

Don't worry, I already addressed that. It's not racism, but pretty bad bigotry, which is equally bad.

You essentially said "Muslims are angry and violent" which I think is equivalent to "Jews are greedy and selfish". Both of those statements aren't true, but they're still both offensive.
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Re: Koran burning will endanger US lives: Petraeus

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Pedronicus wrote:instead of burning the koran, why bother fucking around? Just burn thousands and thousands and millions of billions of Muslim babies.
and do it all sneaky like.
wrap them up in the stars and stripes set fire to the flags, the Muslims watching al Jazeera will cheer, then as the flags burn away, it exposes all the Muslim babies and then tvs across the middle east will be pelted with shoes. WW3 will commence that week and the world economic situation will be sorted.

Also, poor quality haircuts will be averted due to poor understanding of English. Everyone's a winner. (unless you just happen to be a Muslim baby wrapped in a gasoline soaked red white and blue flag)
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