Quentin Tarantino Mafia Night 3 (Mafia Win!)

[nagerous]

That's what I was thinking about Mr. White, he wasn't the baddest bad ass in the history of Tarrantino films, Mr. Blonde in comparison was an evil son of a bitch and the mafia would have to be huge to accommodate all the Tarrantino criminals, like Ving Rhames (Marcellus 'does he look like a bitch' Wallace) from Pulp Fiction, Bill from Kill Bill etc. so there is every possibility that Mr. White could be a town role. That being said I still can't get the logic from where Mandy is going with his very odd and sudden role claim.

But I'm wondering if it's in general moral "who's good in the movie and who isn't" or "protagonists of the movie are town and antagonists are mafia".

Like, in Pulp Fiction, Jules Winnfield is a protagonist, but he's essentially "evil" if we were to think about what his job actually is.

Mr. White was a protagonist in Reservoir Dogs, but he was also "evil" in a sense (while Mr. Orange was "good" [undercover cop]).

And there are so many ultimate antagonists from all of the Tarintino flicks (Bill, Wallace, Hans Landa from Inglorious Basterds, Joe Cabot, etc.) that Mr. White just doesn't seem right for a mafia role.

I definitely agree with you and that is the point I was trying to make. In Pulp fiction it is a bit more blurred as to who the bad guys are in my opinion and that is partly because of the story tale aspect. Bruce Willis is obviously a good guy and a bit of a maverick but are Jules and Vincent protagonists in the classic sense, not necessarily. The only real people I didn't like/empathise with in Pulp Fiction really were those two fucked up rapists.

[Army of GOD]

Perhaps Mandy and pmc are the rapists...

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Jester

Survivor

Upon research, I concluded that perhaps mandy is one of these roles. In essence, either he wins by convincing everyone to lynch him (Jester-not as likely), or he wins regardless of which side is victorious as long as he still is alive (Survivor), which could be why he claimed to be scum, thereby ensuring the real mafs would protect him.

Or he could be trying to convince us to think either of those conditions. The old WIFOM.

Rapists: Zed and Maynard. lol I forgot about those guys.
-The Dude abides

[Fircoal]

That being said I still can't get the logic from where Mandy is going with his very odd and sudden role claim.

IT'S MANDY!!! Are you asking for Mandy to have LOGIC behind his insane crazy theories? That's NAWT HOW MAFIA WORKS!!!! Mandy is known for his crazy theories, this sounds exactly like the Mandy that I know from the past. Due to it being Day 1, I am prepared to follow him on this lynch.

Unvote Vote: pmchung

[Army of GOD]

I was thinking Jester too, TG.

But, I don't get why you think he'd be a survivor? Why would the mafia protect him if they knew he wasn't a part of their group?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Well he claimed to be Mr. White. If we're speaking from the movie, Mr. White is scum (diamond thief), so claiming to be Mr. White could be a fake claim. By claiming this he would draw fire by lynch or by night kill by a possible town vigilante, and the mafia would know to protect him, thereby negating the NK. They could also have some sort of tracker role, and try and trace who tried to kill mandy. If he did convince them he were mafia, then he wins if they win. And apparently he's crazy, according to Fircoal, so I don't know.

-TG

[nagerous]

Lol meta-gaming both mandy and the mod I can guarantee he isn't a jester. I can understand why someone who has never played with him would think it but this is how he operates, this is how he plays the game. If this turns out the case that he is a jester then I'll be disappointed with the mod for including such a 'shit' role in this promising game.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

EBWOP
AoG-

What I mean in a shorter version is maybe with his role the mafs don't know he's not really part of them. They only think he is.

[Fircoal]

Lol meta-gaming both mandy and the mod I can guarantee he isn't a jester. I can understand why someone who has never played with him would think it but this is how he operates, this is how he plays the game. If this turns out the case that he is a jester then I'll be disappointed with the mod for including such a 'shit' role in this promising game.

I put in jesters...

[pmchugh]

lolwut

I'm Mr. White. Given how insanely supportive pmchugh has been towards me, I must conclude that he is Mr. Orange and that we are going to mason up in the near future, but he has been briefed about it in advance. Also, given that Mr. Orange was a mole, I think that it is a fairly logical to assume that his role in this game is Mafia Spy. In fact, I have played Mafia Spy once (in the Braveheart game) and I played the Day 1 much the same as pmchugh is playing now.

unvote vote pmchugh

So cause I agreed with you in what was, to me anyway, fishing for a reaction on another player on day 1 that means I am affiliated with you?

First off, who would be stupid enoguh to affiliate themselves with another player over such a small thing. Certianly not me, if you do a bit of meta-gaming.

Secondly, thats quite a ridiculous theory and there was absolutely no point in claiming that early.

Honestly there is nothing more to defend as the only reason you gave is that I agreed with you.

[Army of GOD]

I feel can't help but think mandy's a jester. Do jesters win if the mafia NKs them?

[Fircoal]

I feel can't help but think mandy's a jester. Do jesters win if the mafia NKs them?

nozel

[lalaland]

I feel can't help but think mandy's a jester. Do jesters win if the mafia NKs them?

not usually...

[nagerous]

The answer is never, unless it is one of Fircoal's reverse jesters. Anyway, quit putting forward the theory that mandy is a jester, it's a dumb one.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

nag(2)-pmchugh, aage
tailgunner(2)-spurgistan, flores
Violet(1)-lalaland
fircoal(1)-edocsil
spurgistan(1)-colton
MeDeFe(2)-AoG, aage
lalaland(1)-VioIet
aage(2)-tailgunner, nag
pmchugh(2)-mandy, fircoal

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Hmm, some people haven't posted much (flores especially). With ga7 ready and willing to get in, post who you guys want prodded. Good discussion so far, no deadline yet...

[ga7]

Flores told me I might need to replace her... So I'm ready Saf.

[safariguy5]

Flores told me I might need to replace her... So I'm ready Saf.

Announcement

ga7 has replaces FloresDelMal.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

nag(2)-pmchugh, aage
tailgunner(1)-spurgistan
Violet(1)-lalaland
fircoal(1)-edocsil
spurgistan(1)-colton
MeDeFe(2)-AoG, aage
lalaland(1)-VioIet
aage(2)-tailgunner, nag
pmchugh(2)-mandy, fircoal

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

[VioIet]

Can we decide not to lynch anyone for Day 1? I am impatient for night time. No reason.

[Fircoal]

Can we decide not to lynch anyone for Day 1? I am impatient for night time. No reason.

That sounds very scummy...

However since Mandy, Frenchie-chan, Nag, and Pmc are in this game you're now only 5th on my lynch list. :3

[Army of GOD]

The answer is never, unless it is one of Fircoal's reverse jesters. Anyway, quit putting forward the theory that mandy is a jester, it's a dumb one.

Haha ok. I still don't completely understand the survival role thing, so I should probably just shut up.

unvote

You lucked out this time MeDeFe...

[lalaland]

Can we decide not to lynch anyone for Day 1? I am impatient for night time. No reason.

Um yeah... my vote is already on you, but revote VioIet in a non-joke vote way now.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Ok, i'm seriously confused. This may be because I'm relatively new to mafia or it may be because you people are MAKING NO FUCKING SENSE(prolly both)

1. Why the hell would Violet say that?
The only possible reason i can think of is that she's some sort of bulletproof townie and is trying to suggest she has a night action so that scum will try to kill her, but that's really a stretch.

2. What in Hank's name is going on with the whole mandy thing. Roleclaim out of the blue on day one only to present a really convoluted theory based on 2 "supportive" posts. There's no way he thought we'd actually lynch anyone based on that, so what was he trying to do? Confuse us? why?

Seriously, this is starting to feel like a Lost episode ...

[ga7]

Confirm. Will reread later... But I can confirm Mandy's main goal in all games is to have our sanity torn to shreds.

[colton24]

Oh crap, I forgot I was even in this game.