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[edocsil]

I suppose I don't understand why you are trying to force a claim? I would think if he had any info to share he would have done it a few days ago when people first started asking him what was up his sleeve. I'm pretty sure if he hasn't claimed by now, he's not going to.

They are probably looking for a role claim. While his role, if he isn't scum, probably doesn't provide any explanation for why he thinks herk needs to be lynched; it is possible that he could make a claim that is convincing enough that at least some people will conclude that he isn't scum but just a single minded and possibly misguided townie.

I understand they are looking for a role claim, I just feel like if he was GOING to role claim he would have done it by now in his rampage against herk.

Never claim till you are pressured, suicide otherwise. Aage as scum just isn't clicking for me, the times I have been on opposite sides as him he has been a careful, crafty player. Lets hear a claim out of him, maybe something will explain his behavior that differs from his norm.

[strike wolf]

Well, I've never been in a game with Aage where he was mafia. I was in him where he was in a game as a third party Schitzo who basically acted as town and a game where he was a town member and his play today doesn't seem to fit with those games. In both those games he was more defensive of other people he thought were townies and he rarely advocated a lynch of someone. Most of the time he tried to defend lynch subjects on the basis that he wasn't sure they were scum. So the way Aage has become half obsessed with lynching Herk (scratch that make it fully obsessed) in this game doesn't fit with what I've noted from him acting as a townie in past games.

[strike wolf]

Day 2 is getting long winded.
Why don't we vote for no lynch
So we can go to Night already

Umm are you serious about this? I'll admit that this day has gone in a bit of a circle but that's definitely no reason for a no lynch. I know you are still upset about town lynching Daze with the understanding that we would get results out of it based on town's involvement. However more than anything the death of a high profile mafia member with possible connections, a player coming out and claiming to be a part of the town group that killed the mafia person and the people who voted for that person or with that person are frankly better sources of information and I honestly can't name any times that a no lynch on Day 2 would do anyone any good. Has it happened to the benefit of the town? probably particularly in smaller games where each townie life is much more valuable but in a game this size, it's even more important to pressure these lynches so we can get as much information from the day. People don't come out to rally against or for other players for no lynches so that provides more information and information in a game this big is vital especially early when there are still loads of players alive and a lot of mud in the water.

[FloresDelMal]

I understand they are looking for a role claim, I just feel like if he was GOING to role claim he would have done it by now in his rampage against herk.

ok claiming 101 usually you avoid to claim as long as you can, but you should claim for example if:

1: you are about to be lynched
2: you caught scum fake claiming and you can counterclaiming
3: you got the dirt on scum and that info needs to be shared
4: the game is near its end, everyone is out of leads, and even thought is regrettable a mass claim is needed
5: there might be other cases when a claim is due, but nothing comes to my mind atm

Day 2 is getting long winded.
Why don't we vote for no lynch
So we can go to Night already

sweetheart if you don't want to play, then just don't do it, but don't waste our time and patience, please.

wtf?
Firstly stop abusing the sizze function, it's getting annoying.
Secondly this is the whole point of mafia, and if discussions are getting too long winded for you, you should think about playing mafia.
This screams to me that you a) do not care what the town do, or about finding scum b) have a night action you can't wait to use again.

While I doubt the bandwagon will change now, this is a huge scumtell

that being said FOS violet, noob or not, she is starting to abuse, and inexperience can only account for so much.

[theherkman]

Still waiting for Aage to say something... ANYTHING that could convince us not to lynch him...

[Thezzaruz]

I understand they are looking for a role claim, I just feel like if he was GOING to role claim he would have done it by now in his rampage against herk.

Role claims rarely come unless the votes are there though (this early in a game at least).

No kidding, Vi. Dang...

Agreed. That was really strange by VioIet...

[theherkman]

I understand they are looking for a role claim, I just feel like if he was GOING to role claim he would have done it by now in his rampage against herk.

Role claims rarely come unless the votes are there though (this early in a game at least).

The votes are there now.

[karelpietertje]

L-2 is too risky I think. If he is some extreme protown power role I don't want to give the power to any two mobsters to finish it off, even if that'll get us some 'info'.
But aage's next post better be a claim.

[aage]

Nice try, vioIet but I guess it's best if I spoke of both our roles.

We're scumbuddies.

No, seriously. We're sisters, town aligned, I'm bulletproof and Vi is unlynchable. We can talk at night.
I've been focussing on THM because I simply don't buy the "we're team rocket" claim (which was also unnecessary, which is imo another reason to distrust). This is what I've been saying all day though, so it doesn't really matter.
Fairly easy-to-test claims, so I suggest you go ahead if you don't believe me(/us)...

Also, THM, scum or not, please keep the "nonsense-post"count low... There's 2 posts of you on this page and none of them contains any information (not to mention the fact that they contain 1 sentence).

[aage]

ok claiming 101 usually you avoid to claim as long as you can, but you should claim for example if:

1: you are about to be lynched
2: you caught scum fake claiming and you can counterclaiming
3: you got the dirt on scum and that info needs to be shared
4: the game is near its end, everyone is out of leads, and even thought is regrettable a mass claim is needed
5: there might be other cases when a claim is due, but nothing comes to my mind atm

Exactly. But why didn't you mention this list when THM decided to claim out of nowhere that he caught a scum? To me that seriously looked like a preventive claim (as in, "dont kill me i'm a very important person") which in my book only scum people do (or, as possibly in this case, noob people do, or people who are so paranoid they can't even handle a FoS against them).

[Haggis_McMutton]

Nice try, vioIet but I guess it's best if I spoke of both our roles.

We're scumbuddies.

No, seriously. We're sisters, town aligned, I'm bulletproof and Vi is unlynchable. We can talk at night.
I've been focussing on THM because I simply don't buy the "we're team rocket" claim (which was also unnecessary, which is imo another reason to distrust). This is what I've been saying all day though, so it doesn't really matter.
Fairly easy-to-test claims, so I suggest you go ahead if you don't believe me(/us)...

Also, THM, scum or not, please keep the "nonsense-post"count low... There's 2 posts of you on this page and none of them contains any information (not to mention the fact that they contain 1 sentence).

Woah, that's an interesting claim.
If it's true, it certainly makes Violet's actions today more understandable.

Still I'm going to ask: Violet, can you confirm this?

Have to say, if this is a bluff it's a damn good one ...

[TheSaxlad]

Im gonna wait till Vi comes out and confirms this, but Aage's story seems to be tight.

However saying vi is unlynchable, doesn't that just make us less likely to vote vioIet for a lynch. An interesting way for mafia to protect mafia. Maybe what aage said at first is more true...

We're scumbuddies.

P.S would I be right in saying bulletproof is unnightkillable?

[TheSaxlad]

Nice try, vioIet but I guess it's best if I spoke of both our roles.

We're scumbuddies.

No, seriously. We're sisters, town aligned, I'm bulletproof and Vi is unlynchable. We can talk at night.
I've been focussing on THM because I simply don't buy the "we're team rocket" claim (which was also unnecessary, which is imo another reason to distrust). This is what I've been saying all day though, so it doesn't really matter.
Fairly easy-to-test claims, so I suggest you go ahead if you don't believe me(/us)...

Also, THM, scum or not, please keep the "nonsense-post"count low... There's 2 posts of you on this page and none of them contains any information (not to mention the fact that they contain 1 sentence).

Plus we get to see if the earlier theory of a punisher was right...

[naxus]

I would still like to hear form naxus and snes whenever they have the chance, but I've seen enough at this point from aage to get on this wagon,
Vote Aage

What would you like to know from me? I posted my opinion a few pages ago and was firmly ignored. For now ill vote aage if just to force a claim

Skimmer! Now I'm sure you're scum!

But just to be polite I'll ask again.

I'm an innocent but torn young man, that was sent into the war in place of my older brother. I'm not sure how much else I can post, so I'll leave it at that.

Where the hell did this come from? Noone really pressured you and you have small amount of votes on you. Why say anything?

This post from early day one was a joke response to Violet asking "Blake: who are you?"
It was mistaken by many as a claim, or at the very least flavor to his role.
In hind sight knowing this happened before the first night,(therefor depending on the mod; mafia typically knowing each others names, but not knowing each other's roles) I am curious as to why you reacted so strongly to him posting this "information"?

I misinterpreted the joke as a partially serious claim and felt that for someone to claim in a thirty person game with a premium prize in the first 10 odd pages with no pressure was just a terrible thing to do. Looking back, I agree that i overreacted but for good reason.

[karelpietertje]

Even if they're sisters, one of them might be scum.
I suggest a cop investigates one of them tonight.
I wonder, do you both die if one of you dies?

[theherkman]

I say we don't even investigate. He admits to being scum and I see no reason not to lynch. Seriously, man. Are you really saying not to lynch someone who admits to scum?

[Haggis_McMutton]

I say we don't even investigate. He admits to being scum and I see no reason not to lynch. Seriously, man. Are you really saying not to lynch someone who admits to scum?

He didn't admit to being scum, the "we're scumbuddies" thing was a joke, he says he's town bellow.

However, karel has a good point, it completely slipped my mind, but traditionally siblings/lovers are one town, one scum, aren't they?

[naxus]

Nice try, vioIet but I guess it's best if I spoke of both our roles.

We're scumbuddies.

No, seriously. We're sisters, town aligned, I'm bulletproof and Vi is unlynchable. We can talk at night.
I've been focussing on THM because I simply don't buy the "we're team rocket" claim (which was also unnecessary, which is imo another reason to distrust). This is what I've been saying all day though, so it doesn't really matter.
Fairly easy-to-test claims, so I suggest you go ahead if you don't believe me(/us)...

Also, THM, scum or not, please keep the "nonsense-post"count low... There's 2 posts of you on this page and none of them contains any information (not to mention the fact that they contain 1 sentence).

If we want to test this out i say we try and lynch vi. If its true then there tested and she lives if not then we know there lying and vi will be gone

unvote vote Violet

[Haggis_McMutton]

Nice try, vioIet but I guess it's best if I spoke of both our roles.

We're scumbuddies.

No, seriously. We're sisters, town aligned, I'm bulletproof and Vi is unlynchable. We can talk at night.
I've been focussing on THM because I simply don't buy the "we're team rocket" claim (which was also unnecessary, which is imo another reason to distrust). This is what I've been saying all day though, so it doesn't really matter.
Fairly easy-to-test claims, so I suggest you go ahead if you don't believe me(/us)...

Also, THM, scum or not, please keep the "nonsense-post"count low... There's 2 posts of you on this page and none of them contains any information (not to mention the fact that they contain 1 sentence).

If we want to test this out i say we try and lynch vi. If its true then there tested and she lives if not then we know there lying and vi will be gone

unvote vote Violet

It is so obvious that that's what he's suggesting.
First we need to discuss the possibilities a bit more before we do that.

At the very least we need Violet to back up his claim.

[karelpietertje]

indeed. Violet's reaction is key.

Haggis, I don't think aage would try to make us try lynch vio. it only takes her saying that it isn't true for us to be 100% sure aage is scum.

[aage]

Sure, let's test it.

unvote vote violet

If that's what it takes to convince you guys...

As far as I know I'm town and VioIet's too... We're not lovers but sisters, which is something else, if you kill one of us the other doesn't die. Squirrel might have some weird revenge mechanic I don't know about but that's pure speculation.

Also, THM, you really are an idiot, aren't you? You're profile says you're from USofA so I don't see how you could misinterprete that joke. It was in English.

@karelpietje above me
Dude, she already made that seriously weird move that would have gotten her lynched. The only explanation for it would be her trying to get lynched instead of me, but not getting lynched since she is lynchproof. Please tell me what you think she did that for if not for this?

[naxus]

indeed. Violet's reaction is key.

Haggis, I don't think aage would try to make us try lynch vio. it only takes her saying that it isn't true for us to be 100% sure aage is scum.

Unless Aage is lying about violet being a part of his "team/group" and is just trying to cast suspicion on Her for the next day/night phase.

[aage]

Why would I cast suspicion on my sister? I merely hope a doc is smart enough to protect her...

[naxus]

If your lying is the only reason i can think of.

[Haggis_McMutton]

As far as I know I'm town and VioIet's too... We're not lovers but sisters, which is something else, if you kill one of us the other doesn't die. Squirrel might have some weird revenge mechanic I don't know about but that's pure speculation.

Afaik sibling/lovers are used interchangeably. Of course it's quite likely squirrel mixed things up a bit, however if you don't both die when one dies, why would you be called lovers? You'd be just masons.

Were you specifically told Violet was town, or are you assuming?