UnMafia 3 (1/19) *OVAR* GO GO GO!!!

[VioIet]

I'm fed up with this bs about every move I make in this game being universally criticised. It's bs.

Poor Nag. I feel that way too sometimes. I think people are just criticizing you so much because they think you are good player. So in that case, take it as a compliment.

Also on Day 1 there are really no leads and nothing much to go off on- except for this huge lead that commander has given us. So they will criticize and analyze the smallest of things. Its something I've had to get use to. And its not just you- people have been hard on me, flores, victor and ga7.

If it makes you feel any better, I think you are probably the smartest person in this game for voting Commander. It was a good move and he deserved it.

But I could've sworn I was actually the first to vote him. I guess not

[ga7]

I'm fed up with this bs about every move I make in this game being universally criticised. It's bs.

Geez, I know you received PMS to play this but still... Your moves were criticised maybe because they didn't make sense for most people? Even after reading your explanation I don't know either what you were expecting with your Commander vote (again, we are not gonna get answers from his side for now) or why you claimed. Well I suppose you claimed because you "gave up". Now scum will probably NK you because of it, so I guess your problem is solved? Sigh...

It's really hard to find a case on Day 1, and when people "just want him lynch, no claim, no replacement!" it's screwing the chances of town. Violet, it is not ok to get yourself in a position where you have to claim at L-1 if you're an useful role like tracker. When you saw the votes starting to pile up on you, instead of stubbornly stay on your case and act like an expiatory victim saying it's ok to lynch you, maybe you should have considered the value you have as townie who has a night action. It's a general tip applicable to anyone because after Briars and this I'm starting to tire from some people considering it's ok to be against the whole town because they're "right". If that game was not enough evidence, yes people doing that will end up lynched, no it's not helping town in any way because you usually can't tell apart townies from scum on the wagon since it was a pretty justified vote. Now, I'm not saying you should have given up your views on Commander, but it would be good to add some nuances to one's pursuit of a case when you have a wagon on you. It might not have been, but I have a feeling this could have been avoidable.
Anyway, mafia can be played in many ways and is more interesting when it's done so but I think that advice was general enough to apply to many people, so don't take it personally =)

[ga7]

Btw seeing as Chu had pity on us I think L-2 should be considered L-1 while Victor is alive, which hopefully won't be for too long

[VioIet]

I'm not backing down from my stance on commander. My vote will stay on him for this entire Day 1. And probably Day 2 and Day 3.. and so on if he survives- and it has not yet been proven/confirmed/verified that he is town.

I never told anyone to vote for me- everyone who did so needs to take accountability for those votes and bringing me to L1. From my understand, I received votes for being silent during the whole ga7/nag debate and flores/victor discussion, and also for "overreacting" over commander. I probably also received some votes for defending flores.

Anyway, I'm not usually so good at avoiding votes. I had no defense except for claiming my role. That is why i never provided a defense - I'm not so good at those. Basically only thing i can say is "i am town, don't vote for me," which is not a very compelling defense.

And of course I want to help the town. But maybe you all don't quite understand just how much the commander situation irked me. So backing down from my position on commander, in order to avoid votes- is not something i am willing to do. I think its more fulfilling to stand up for the choice I want to make.

I think some people know exactly what it was that irked commander. I will find out somehow.

[FloresDelMal]

I'm not backing down from my stance on commander. My vote will stay on him for this entire Day 1. And probably Day 2 and Day 3.. and so on if he survives- and it has not yet been proven/confirmed/verified that he is town.

sweetheart everyone needs to take advice sometimes, and never is too late for start, sticking that way too your point against all odds, is not committed, is plainly stubborn, doesn't help anyone, certainly doesn't help you, seriously you are a tracker, use your powers, wait that commander get's replaced and track him, that's how you will find out, not going into some kind of principle strike.

[nagerous]

Too busy to give input for two days still but Nag that was a stupid move. A simple search would have informed you you have the power to kill roles with an extra life, while others are unharmed. The fact you're in this game probably means there's a super sk. It's clear you weren't giving much of a f*ck but doing so erratically doesn't help town's case, well done

Well perhaps if this is true you should have kept this information to yourself rather than announcing it to the scum exposing the actual power of this role

[ga7]

Why do you think scum would be as lazy as you to not perform a simple search? Besides that way you might actually use it properly -_-

[edocsil]

Too busy to give input for two days still but Nag that was a stupid move. A simple search would have informed you you have the power to kill roles with an extra life, while others are unharmed. The fact you're in this game probably means there's a super sk. It's clear you weren't giving much of a f*ck but doing so erratically doesn't help town's case, well done

Well perhaps if this is true you should have kept this information to yourself rather than announcing it to the scum exposing the actual power of this role

Any of us can use the mafia wiki.

[Fircoal]

Too busy to give input for two days still but Nag that was a stupid move. A simple search would have informed you you have the power to kill roles with an extra life, while others are unharmed. The fact you're in this game probably means there's a super sk. It's clear you weren't giving much of a f*ck but doing so erratically doesn't help town's case, well done

Well perhaps if this is true you should have kept this information to yourself rather than announcing it to the scum exposing the actual power of this role

Any of us can use the mafia wiki.

I don't put my roles on mafia wiki

[edocsil]

Why do you think scum would be as lazy as you to not perform a simple search? Besides that way you might actually use it properly -_-

Actually where the hell did you find it, it isn't on the wiki. Is it a role Fir has used before?

[FloresDelMal]

Why do you think scum would be as lazy as you to not perform a simple search? Besides that way you might actually use it properly -_-

Actually where the hell did you find it, it isn't on the wiki. Is it a role Fir has used before?

i think it was used in unmafia 2, some ppl rather obsesive could check the previous games of mods for try to guess the set up, anyway sounds credible unvote nag

[TheSaxlad]

Vote VioIet. Hahahahahaha!!! Jk, unvote (as I think the rest of you should). We really don't want to kill off an investigative role.

does this not mean vioiet was lynched as any votes in bold contribute towards the vote count and the lynch is made even if there is an unvote afterwards?

[aage]

Vote VioIet. Hahahahahaha!!! Jk, unvote (as I think the rest of you should). We really don't want to kill off an investigative role.

does this not mean vioiet was lynched as any votes in bold contribute towards the vote count and the lynch is made even if there is an unvote afterwards?

How dare you question ChuMod?!

[Fircoal]

Vote VioIet. Hahahahahaha!!! Jk, unvote (as I think the rest of you should). We really don't want to kill off an investigative role.

does this not mean vioiet was lynched as any votes in bold contribute towards the vote count and the lynch is made even if there is an unvote afterwards?

Yes under normal circumstances she'd be lynched, but honestly Victor was just acting like an idiot, and I don't want to ruin the game for everyone else because of that.

[Skoffin]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

[FloresDelMal]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

nice catch skoff vote victor

[Victor Sullivan]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

nice catch skoff vote victor

Yeah, nice catch, skoff: vote vic- hey wait! You sly dog, almost got me to vote myself!

[The Weird One]

I am a Town Tracker. Each night I am able to track someone. For instance if I decide to track person A, I can find out what their night action was.
My first time ever having this role too, and I was excited about it. So kind of a bummer. Town will definitely be at a loss if I am lynched.

Obviously unvote, but cause unvotes aren't counted I am going to VOTE TWO, he has few votes, so it will put my vote somewhere where it will do little harm.

unvotes aren't necessary, but they still get counted. unvote . . .her claim sounded legitimate. I really don't see any other direction to go with this...so far, this looks like the scum are having a field day. It's day 1 and three [alleged] pro-townies have already made convincing roleclaims...

[Fircoal]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them.

I make whatever comments I want.

[strike wolf]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

Sounds legitimate vote victor

[Iliad]

Vote victor. I don't buy his jester act, that only started after other people mentioned that there might be jesters in this game. Finding it quite unlikely that he wins with town

[edocsil]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

[TheSaxlad]

agreeing with everyone else here.

vote victor

[aage]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

I think you've jumped on a conclusion too soon... Even if Fircoal would be saying he is acting like an idiot, it could be because he's a jester since that requires him to be acting like an idiot. Still I think this whole argument is flawed since I like to metagame which tells me Victor must be mafia in each of his games atm. And I don't really buy that.

[The Weird One]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

I think you've jumped on a conclusion too soon... Even if Fircoal would be saying he is acting like an idiot, it could be because he's a jester since that requires him to be acting like an idiot. Still I think this whole argument is flawed since I like to metagame which tells me Victor must be mafia in each of his games atm. And I don't really buy that.

I have to agree. Saying someone's acting like an idiot doesn't mean that their role doesn't require them to act like an idiot. I still say we leave him to be nk'ed just to be safe. I don't mean to be jumping to anyone's defense, it just seems like the most reasonable thing to do. That being said; I realixe that we don't have any other leads, so, for the sake of progressing the game, lynch away I guess... I just think that, even if they're a jester, acting like one can still be called "stupid" because, well, you act stupid to get yourself lynched...hopefully I made some sort of sense and didn't just paint a large bull'seye on my throat...