Red Dead Redemption Game Thread-TOWN WINS

[TA1LGUNN3R]

One for a completely unconvincing claim...

I'm not convinced that my claim was unconvincing.

-Tails

[Jace22]

ok that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for explaining safari. I've never played the game, so that's why I asked if it was a plausable claim

[edocsil]

One for a completely unconvincing claim...

I'm not convinced that my claim was unconvincing.

-Tails

Nor am I. I also hate massclaims, especially D1

[Jace22]

when's the deadline again

[naxus]

One for a completely unconvincing claim...

I'm not convinced that my claim was unconvincing.

-Tails

Nor am I. I also hate massclaims, especially D1

I would suggest agains this....

[safariguy5]

Ok, well since there's so few players, I think it's in everyone's best interest including mine to claim since we're not going to have a lot of days or nights for investigations/kills.

I'm Irish, Third Party survivor. I'm also sort of a bomb/suicide bomber where I can kill myself and someone else. This kind of goes against my whole needing to survive to win mechanic, so I'm just putting this out there. If you're town, I suggest not wasting an investigation on me. If you're mafia, don't waste a kill on me. Just trying to stay alive here.

And I guess if you really piss me off, I can always take you with me...although I really don't want to.

[aage]

Thank god, we get more time.

I am going to vote aage, I dislike how he pushed for commander to vote when he has so much power and so little motivation to currently vote for anyone. It would make it easy for him and a scumbuddy to lynch with only 8 players. Some simple logic based around one possible scum lynch verses 3 relatively random lynches could easily steer Commander in the wrong direction.

And the line "thanks for not taking the bait" got you nothing? Seeing Commander's response I think the same goes for him.

Anyway, I'm against the claiming and I seriously am confused by Safari's claim. Having the power to kill yourself in order to kill someone else is utterly useless as a survivor and I don't see Naxus giving that to you. Meaning you must be lying. unvote vote safari.

[safariguy5]

Seeing as how I've played some of the game, I can see how this would be suspicious. However, Irish was frequently drunk, unreliable, and basically out to save himself every time. Incompetence+will to live=deadly combo.

[edocsil]

Seeing as how I've played some of the game, I can see how this would be suspicious. However, Irish was frequently drunk, unreliable, and basically out to save himself every time. Incompetence+will to live=deadly combo.

So a clarification, do you also kill the person who casts the lynching vote as well? or can you only suicide on some during the night. I cannot accept your only ability causes you to lose.

[Victor Sullivan]

Sorry, I'm rather behind, but I saw your claim, edoc, so unvote. Things still aren't looking fantastic for us, but I think the best option thus far is to vote safariguy5. Like aage said, it seems silly to have your one ability thwart your win condition, but even if you are telling the truth, I hardly see a deficit to lynching you.

-Sully

[safariguy5]

Seeing as how I've played some of the game, I can see how this would be suspicious. However, Irish was frequently drunk, unreliable, and basically out to save himself every time. Incompetence+will to live=deadly combo.

So a clarification, do you also kill the person who casts the lynching vote as well? or can you only suicide on some during the night. I cannot accept your only ability causes you to lose.

My ability is a day ability so I could kill anyone right now. Incidentally, if you're town, this is a wasted lynch. You're gonna kill a third party survivor now instead of going for someone who hasn't claimed and is more likely scum. The whole point of me declaring with no votes on me was because I want to win. I had hoped that this would keep the town from wasting a lynch and the mafia from wasting a kill. The deterrent from pressuring me as you all are now is that I can daykill someone with me. I was concerned by not speaking up that the mafia would kill me in the night, thus depriving me from winning.

Yes, I know my ability is ridiculous, but if I did anything but tell the truth, you all would think I was scum. Seeing as how we have a CPR doc in addition to mafia running around with only 8 players, the odds of me getting whacked accidentally are quite high. Everyone wants to win, I'm playing my role aggressively, and greatly resisting the temptation of taking someone with me (fun as that may be, I would be losing).

[edocsil]

Seeing as how I've played some of the game, I can see how this would be suspicious. However, Irish was frequently drunk, unreliable, and basically out to save himself every time. Incompetence+will to live=deadly combo.

So a clarification, do you also kill the person who casts the lynching vote as well? or can you only suicide on some during the night. I cannot accept your only ability causes you to lose.

My ability is a day ability so I could kill anyone right now. Incidentally, if you're town, this is a wasted lynch. You're gonna kill a third party survivor now instead of going for someone who hasn't claimed and is more likely scum. The whole point of me declaring with no votes on me was because I want to win. I had hoped that this would keep the town from wasting a lynch and the mafia from wasting a kill. The deterrent from pressuring me as you all are now is that I can daykill someone with me. I was concerned by not speaking up that the mafia would kill me in the night, thus depriving me from winning.


Yes, I know my ability is ridiculous, but if I did anything but tell the truth, you all would think I was scum. Seeing as how we have a CPR doc in addition to mafia running around with only 8 players, the odds of me getting whacked accidentally are quite high. Everyone wants to win, I'm playing my role aggressively, and greatly resisting the temptation of taking someone with me (fun as that may be, I would be losing).

Well, if nothing else I believe you have a DK, looks like we can't really pursue anything with you.

[Haggis_McMutton]

SIgh, I don't have a lot of time what with Christmas and all that, but still there's nothing in this game that seems really scummy to me.

Aage's pressuring of Commander is a little weird, but remember his thing for herk in Briasburg, he doesn't always act exactly like stereotypical town.
Also, safary's claim is also pretty odd. A 3rd party bomb doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but on the other hand why would he present a fake claim with no pressure at all?
Still, the fact that he basically said "leave me alone or else ..." arouses my suspicion slightly.

Hmm, right now it's between Victor and him imo ...

[edocsil]

SIgh, I don't have a lot of time what with Christmas and all that, but still there's nothing in this game that seems really scummy to me.

Aage's pressuring of Commander is a little weird, but remember his thing for herk in Briasburg, he doesn't always act exactly like stereotypical town.
Also, safary's claim is also pretty odd. A 3rd party bomb doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but on the other hand why would he present a fake claim with no pressure at all?
Still, the fact that he basically said "leave me alone or else ..." arouses my suspicion slightly.

Hmm, right now it's between Victor and him imo ...

Yes, but you don't want to be the one to vote for him do you? Bomb/daykiller claims are awsome, won several RT games that way.

[safariguy5]

Consider this a public service announcement. I am neither town nor mafia. You'd be wasting your time on me. And if cornered, I can really hurt.

[aage]

Consider this a public service announcement. I am neither town nor mafia. You'd be wasting your time on me. And if cornered, I can really hurt.

Dude, lynching a third party is better than lynching town whatever way you look at it. I know you're trying to talk yourself out of a lynch but I hope you really do understand that.

anyway, Edoc, you're saying he doesn't want to be the one to vote for him right? So what are you doing?
Same story as Commander really...

[Commander9]

Nor am I. I also hate massclaims, especially D1

I would suggest agains this....

THIS. Seriously, what the hell is happening - why is everyone so claim happy?

SIgh, I don't have a lot of time what with Christmas and all that, but still there's nothing in this game that seems really scummy to me.

Aage's pressuring of Commander is a little weird, but remember his thing for herk in Briasburg, he doesn't always act exactly like stereotypical town.
Also, safary's claim is also pretty odd. A 3rd party bomb doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but on the other hand why would he present a fake claim with no pressure at all?
Still, the fact that he basically said "leave me alone or else ..." arouses my suspicion slightly.

Hmm, right now it's between Victor and him imo ...

I'm still not backing off from tails, as I don't trust him one bit. However, I do agree that this claim from Safari has been extremely uncalled for. What's even more, he's even pretty much threatening us indirectly, which is another thing I do not like.

Dude, lynching a third party is better than lynching town whatever way you look at it. I know you're trying to talk yourself out of a lynch but I hope you really do understand that.

anyway, Edoc, you're saying he doesn't want to be the one to vote for him right? So what are you doing?
Same story as Commander really...

Oh no aage, I completely disagree here - Edoc has only 1 vote, so it's much easier for him. The person who I want to vote is already close to being lynched and I don't want to be the last straw, but since he still hasn't posted any defence about all this, I'm assuming he won't try to do anything anything more.

Vote (1) Tails.

[aage]

Dude, lynching a third party is better than lynching town whatever way you look at it. I know you're trying to talk yourself out of a lynch but I hope you really do understand that.

anyway, Edoc, you're saying he doesn't want to be the one to vote for him right? So what are you doing?
Same story as Commander really...

Oh no aage, I completely disagree here - Edoc has only 1 vote, so it's much easier for him. The person who I want to vote is already close to being lynched and I don't want to be the last straw, but since he still hasn't posted any defence about all this, I'm assuming he won't try to do anything anything more.

Vote (1) Tails.

Yeah, he has one vote - making the hesitation only the worse. I guess he's hesitant because he doesn't wanna get bombed, which I can understand, but the point is I don't really think he's a day killing bomb. If he were he wouldn't have told us so soon.

[edocsil]

Consider this a public service announcement. I am neither town nor mafia. You'd be wasting your time on me. And if cornered, I can really hurt.

Dude, lynching a third party is better than lynching town whatever way you look at it. I know you're trying to talk yourself out of a lynch but I hope you really do understand that.

anyway, Edoc, you're saying he doesn't want to be the one to vote for him right? So what are you doing?
Same story as Commander really...

I, as town cop, would rather not get DK by an explosives toting, suicidal maniac. I also am not suggesting others vote for him, just saying they may do if they wish as I cannot control them.

[safariguy5]

Dude, lynching a third party is better than lynching town whatever way you look at it. I know you're trying to talk yourself out of a lynch but I hope you really do understand that.

anyway, Edoc, you're saying he doesn't want to be the one to vote for him right? So what are you doing?
Same story as Commander really...

Oh no aage, I completely disagree here - Edoc has only 1 vote, so it's much easier for him. The person who I want to vote is already close to being lynched and I don't want to be the last straw, but since he still hasn't posted any defence about all this, I'm assuming he won't try to do anything anything more.

Vote (1) Tails.

Yeah, he has one vote - making the hesitation only the worse. I guess he's hesitant because he doesn't wanna get bombed, which I can understand, but the point is I don't really think he's a day killing bomb. If he were he wouldn't have told us so soon.

You're missing the point. The win condition for me is survivor. I'm not out to kill anyone if I don't have to to survive, but with the probability for 2 night kills, I don't like my odds. Sure, lynching me might be the "easy" thing because I'm third party, but my suicide bomber ability I hoped would act as a deterrent, especially since we seem to have found both the doc and the cop already.

At this point, town already has a real WIFOM in the night anyways. Mafia may decide to target cop, in which case the CPR doc has to try to save, but the mafia could just as well target someone else (the doc for example) and the doc can't target the cop. Either way, I think town is probably going to lose at least one of the two roles. I'm hoping I don't have to take the other prematurely.

Think of me like a porcupine. Leave me alone and nobody gets hurt.

[edocsil]

Dude, lynching a third party is better than lynching town whatever way you look at it. I know you're trying to talk yourself out of a lynch but I hope you really do understand that.

anyway, Edoc, you're saying he doesn't want to be the one to vote for him right? So what are you doing?
Same story as Commander really...

Oh no aage, I completely disagree here - Edoc has only 1 vote, so it's much easier for him. The person who I want to vote is already close to being lynched and I don't want to be the last straw, but since he still hasn't posted any defence about all this, I'm assuming he won't try to do anything anything more.

Vote (1) Tails.

Yeah, he has one vote - making the hesitation only the worse. I guess he's hesitant because he doesn't wanna get bombed, which I can understand, but the point is I don't really think he's a day killing bomb. If he were he wouldn't have told us so soon.

You're missing the point. The win condition for me is survivor. I'm not out to kill anyone if I don't have to to survive, but with the probability for 2 night kills, I don't like my odds. Sure, lynching me might be the "easy" thing because I'm third party, but my suicide bomber ability I hoped would act as a deterrent, especially since we seem to have found both the doc and the cop already.

At this point, town already has a real WIFOM in the night anyways. Mafia may decide to target cop, in which case the CPR doc has to try to save, but the mafia could just as well target someone else (the doc for example) and the doc can't target the cop. Either way, I think town is probably going to lose at least one of the two roles. I'm hoping I don't have to take the other prematurely.

Think of me like a porcupine. Leave me alone and nobody gets hurt.

God, I hope there is a real doc.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Ok, this is getting ridiculous.

The one thing we DON'T want is to reach the deadline with one vote on everyone, then the scum can make up some bullshit reasons and kill whoever they want.
So at this point I'm becoming more flexible about whom we lynch. I'd be willing to go for Victor, safary or tails. Let's just decide already.

Victor and safary for the already mentioned reasons. Tails because while I believe his claim seems legit, I guess a vote stealing mechanic might be scum aligned in a game where you have an extra vote awarded by the town.

Also, if it's safary, I'm willing to hammer. The 3rd party bomb doesn't make a lot of sense, so I'll take the risk.

[safariguy5]

Sigh... I tried to tell you all.

Suicide/selfdestruct and kill edocsil

Might as well go out with a bang instead of by the rope.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Sigh... I tried to tell you all.

Suicide/selfdestruct and kill edocsil

Might as well go out with a bang instead of by the rope.

Heh, so in response to a post espousing 3 possible lynches including yourself, you decide to do something that guarantees you lose?

I hope you're lying, or that's a monumentally bad play.

[Commander9]

Wow, a bright one, I see. Furthermore, instead of taking out Haggis, who said who wasn't afraid to hammer you, you take out edocsil who didn't want to. Brilliant play.