Roll Mafia I (4/10) *GAME OVER or Day 4* SKOFFIN MVP!

[aage]

Inthat case I think we'd better take the load off his poke shoulders?

vote xuereb

Also, this game dies.

[Victor Sullivan]

The problem is that the fucking Chu has Tails available to replace, but despite repeated requests to take care of his damn game he prefers to make signups for another. Clearly he considers this game botched and has no longer interest in it. I think if he doesn't fix this today this might as well be considered abandonned as all the signs are here to point to it.

So it's "TALSE", then?

[Fircoal]

Tails replaces that xuereb guy.
Shall I look through the thread for posts and make a vote count? Or is someone willing to take that burden off mah hands.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Hey all I will read this tonight after work and try to post something useful. At least I don't have to try and defend any of xuereb's actions.

-Tails

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Nag--(1)---aage
aage---(1)---pancake
Victor---(2)---/,ga7
Pancake---(1)---Flores
xuereb---(1)---aage
ga7---(1)---Victor

So I've read this thread like 3-4 times now, nothing jumps out as too damning. Without investigations and such there's only posts to go on. Which I like, makes us have to read into the game more. There's that post of nag's that aage used, it is a bit scummy, but I think that was from D1, so meh. Sorry for the metagaming, but I'm not sure if aage is a lyncher, he is kinda stubborn when it comes to voting for someone.

I don't believe Victor is a jester, he just does that. If fir gave him a jester role it would be too perfect for him. At this point, I'm leaning towards a Victor lynch to salvage the thread.

As far a pcm's theory regarding aage's fake pr....I can't say for sure. I don't have a lot of experience with prs. I'm of the opinion that he probably kept forgetting them in that clusterfuck argument between him and pcm. Although I did enjoy it, I appreciated all the pretty colors and a,b,c... points.

I'm gonna vote Victor. Tomorrow I'm thinking that our best option would be to go over the D1 saf lynch, but judging from the fact that no one even noticed he was already lynched for like a whole page probably won't yield too much.

-Tails

[Victor Sullivan]

I'm gonna vote Victor.

You're gonna just kill me from laughter, LOL!

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I'm gonna vote Victor.

You're gonna just kill me from laughter, LOL!

?

-Tails

[Victor Sullivan]

I'm gonna vote Victor.

You're gonna just kill me from laughter, LOL!

?

-Tails

Your questions marks thrill me.

[nagerous]

Can you not play seriously for once? Coming from the man with 39 PHDS.

[nagerous]

Anyway, my 39 PHDS would like to note that from my limited experience/tarrantino Victor tends to play more seriously and less jokingly when he is scum to avoid suspicion - scum I think not he is.

[ga7]

I think Victor never plays seriously ever. I glanced at a finished game where he had apparently forgotten who his scumbuddy was. If I had kill powers I would use them on Victor every single game till he gets bored and stops playing like a jester. This shit annoys me way more than other noobs being scummy as this is so obviously on purpose and just poor behaviour.

[aage]

I think Victor never plays seriously ever. I glanced at a finished game where he had apparently forgotten who his scumbuddy was. If I had kill powers I would use them on Victor every single game till he gets bored and stops playing like a jester. This shit annoys me way more than other noobs being scummy as this is so obviously on purpose and just poor behaviour.

Eh, yeah, but killing my scumbuddy wasn't really a good idea was it? Right Victor?

You have a point but killing him just everywhere is statistically bad for your faction. But we could kill him here.

[nagerous]

39 phds here aage but how come you don't seem to have yours now?

[aage]

39 phds here aage but how come you don't seem to have yours now?

I keep forgetting about the 41 I have. However great they are, I hate them.

[ga7]

That's true it could be bad Aage but could at least put a stop to his """strategy""" (yes this deserves triple double quotes ).
Anyway else I have nothing, PRs seem kinda meaningless, I'm glad mine is optional

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Ok I've had a recent change of heart upon further consideration, and I think that in a game this small any townie (even Victor) is needed. While he's added little, by my guess it's maybe 5 or 6 town vs maybe 3 or 2 scums, and a lynch of a townie + the maf's NK tonight could easily tie this game up, or bring it pretty damn close.

So to throw out a name:

Man, nothing like an old school PCM case with colours. And with Aage it can only be a battle of stubbornness!
Frankly I'm tempted to go with the most likely option that Aage is Nag's lyncher. Then again Aage is sometimes like a pittbull that cannot ever let go of the arm he bites, so I'm not sure. Perhaps it would help if you talked to us more about your feelings, to learn to let go
I'm gonna Vote Victor for now even though it could as well be bereux, for submarining like crazy.

Doesn't really have much to say regarding the aage-pcm exchange, just an observational cliff note, while also going for a submariner, an easy target (plus it's Victor so doubly easy).

Have you got a 27B-6 form?
Ugh hadn't noticed this just died...
Unvote Vote Aage I blame you for it! (even though Pcm is to blame also )

Victor responds with a "sick" excuse, and ga7 unvotes (is claiming sick a valid excuse? Vic didn't weigh in on anything happening. Yes yes he was sick, but it seems easy enough to read up and post whilst also writing a humorous response to getting called out, so to me his response was bullshit, not worthy of unvoting).

Well, there clearly isn't much of an argument anymore so if it's not related to the game maybe you guys could take it to PMs?
It did make me think Aage as less likely to be lyncher though, but that doesn't mean I have new input because 2/3 of the game is SUBMARINING SCUM!

Vote xeureub next in line for least participation.

Again he goes for the easy target. These are all on the same page mind you (9). There were several days in between the posts, but not much happened to warrant rapid vote switching.

QFT even thought my single PHd is not in law, i think that Pcm should accept his half of responsibility on the death of this thread, so unvote vote Pcm the colorful quote fest made my eyes hurt

I also found this odd. ga7 and flores vote for the two people who were most active in the thread for thread-killing. Yes I understand that they were in good humor, but D2 this seems out of place, especially from experienced players like ga7 and flores. Possible scum team?

vote ga7

-Tails

[ga7]

Well it's a pity you first voted for Vic as else there could have been a pretty solid link between you two. The backtracking is weird but less defensive of him this way.
I don't really get what you found scummy on my posts though, it seems pretty straightforward to the point you have to ignore the flow and context of the game to get something out of it. I guess I'll answer though since it could be an opportunity to point out how Vic is likely scum

Man, nothing like an old school PCM case with colours. And with Aage it can only be a battle of stubbornness!
Frankly I'm tempted to go with the most likely option that Aage is Nag's lyncher. Then again Aage is sometimes like a pittbull that cannot ever let go of the arm he bites, so I'm not sure. Perhaps it would help if you talked to us more about your feelings, to learn to let go
I'm gonna Vote Victor for now even though it could as well be bereux, for submarining like crazy.

Doesn't really have much to say regarding the aage-pcm exchange, just an observational cliff note, while also going for a submariner, an easy target (plus it's Victor so doubly easy).

How is it a cliff note to say that in my view either Aage is a lyncher or a stubborn townie? To me that makes the whole argument pretty worthless. Are you saying you gain a lot of insight from it? Because I certainly didn't notice you saying so. As you might have noticed the game was horrendously inactive at that point so I wanted to prod a submariner, which I kept doing afterwards to try to stir some activity.

Victor responds with a "sick" excuse, and ga7 unvotes (is claiming sick a valid excuse? Vic didn't weigh in on anything happening. Yes yes he was sick, but it seems easy enough to read up and post whilst also writing a humorous response to getting called out, so to me his response was bullshit, not worthy of unvoting).

The guy apparently hadn't been posting much anywhere at this point so I had no reason to disbelieve him. He answered 3 days after my post (and there being no post in between) and I read his joke as asking more time to reread before voting so it seemed pretty valid to me. The fact he didn't actually do anything after that post is the scummy part in hindsight.

Well, there clearly isn't much of an argument anymore so if it's not related to the game maybe you guys could take it to PMs?
It did make me think Aage as less likely to be lyncher though, but that doesn't mean I have new input because 2/3 of the game is SUBMARINING SCUM!

Vote xeureub next in line for least participation.

Again he goes for the easy target. These are all on the same page mind you (9). There were several days in between the posts, but not much happened to warrant rapid vote switching.

Lol at rapid vote switching. My Aage vote was obviously not serious since absolutely no one was posting but Pcm and him kept arguing a while more. I wanted to prod the last submariner to try to get at least some sort of activity since there was nothing going on. Don't see how it was an easy target though since it was clear (and still kinda is) that we won't lynch anyone today. In fact rereading that part it seems Chu should have ended the day about 5 days ago, which he didn't since he also started to be inactive...

I can't really comment on Flores' vote but again you seem to forget there were sometimes days between posts and people having no input. Doesn't really matter it was day 2 since the only thing related to day 1 was the pcm-aage argue that became also irrelevant to me. I do think it ultimately detracted activity in this game since they seemed in their own little world, not really a reason to lynch people I think are more likely town I'll give you that

Lastly I think you need to give me your definition of an easy lynch. More than 2 days after his post about being sick, Victor just makes a joke vote. The next post is / voting him a day after, then me voting him a day after that. Vic follows with this:

Fair reason. Victor has seemingly no intention of hunting scum so... Unvote Vote Vic

Wait, what? I think all the mafias I am in (at least 4) I am being accused... lol. My vote stands, I am afraid, ga7. It wasnt originally intended to peg you for the lynch, but think small outburst implies scum to me. I do have an intention of hunting scum: you. Ah, the irony...

Sully

Which is total crap since he tries to justify his joke vote, and Pcm is wary of him being a jester. Aage & Nag ignore it. Nothing for 4 days. Nag suggests lynching xuereb. You finally replace one day after. More than 5 days have passed and Victor stayed at two votes only all that while, before your own. Considering that Vic is the only one that gave good reasons to be lynched and still didn't get voted much, I'd say that actually makes him more scummy if he really was such an easy target as you say. And you don't explain why I didn't go with lynching the inactive xuereb but instead pushed for his replacement since it was clearly a way easier lynch.

In summary vote Vic, he's teh scum

[nagerous]

Nothing for 4 days. Nag suggests lynching xuereb. You finally replace one day after.

Just to stop misinformation, you were the one who voted him because of his inactivity and I suggested that perhaps he be replaced instead.

[nagerous]

Also, do we need to replace Flores too? 39 PHDS here.

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I suppose my 40 PHDs can qualify me to count votes too

aage, 1 vote: pancake

Victor, 2 votes: /, ga7

pcm, 1 vote: FloresDelMal

xuereb/tailgun, 1 vote: aage

ga7, 2 votes: Victor Sullivan, TA1LGUNN3R

%#^&$#^* scum who are killing the game by not voting after a zillion years past the deadline: Nagerous

with 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch?

[ga7]

Nothing for 4 days. Nag suggests lynching xuereb. You finally replace one day after.

Just to stop misinformation, you were the one who voted him because of his inactivity and I suggested that perhaps he be replaced instead.

Not misinformation, my vote wasn't on him since a good week and Tails had already proposed to replace when you posted this:

So what's the plan then? Lynch xuereb for inactivity? Wait for him to be replaced? Has the deadline not passed yet? DISCUSS.

Not quite the same.

[nagerous]

I suppose my 40 PHDs can qualify me to count votes too

aage, 1 vote: pancake

Victor, 2 votes: /, ga7

pcm, 1 vote: FloresDelMal

xuereb/tailgun, 1 vote: aage

ga7, 2 votes: Victor Sullivan, TA1LGUNN3R

%#^&$#^* scum who are killing the game by not voting after a zillion years past the deadline: Nagerous

with 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch?

Want a vote there vote / 39phds happy - laying low.

[Fircoal]

Also, do we need to replace Flores too? 39 PHDS here.

Ask Frenchie-chan. He's her secretary.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

How is it a cliff note to say that in my view either Aage is a lyncher or a stubborn townie? To me that makes the whole argument pretty worthless. Are you saying you gain a lot of insight from it? Because I certainly didn't notice you saying so. As you might have noticed the game was horrendously inactive at that point so I wanted to prod a submariner, which I kept doing afterwards to try to stir some activity

Well I came in kinda late, so there wasn't a whole lot of opportunity to comment on it. Basically I feel they were kinda posting the same thing multiple times, but the gist of it was informative, yes. Pcm accuses aage of being a lyncher, aage denies it, they squabble like cute lovers. It's also noteworthy that pcm claims he doesn't defend nag, and yet inadvertently he does. So that leaves me with two possible situations. He either was genuinely concerned that aage was a lyncher and didn't want him to win upon the death of nag, or he is nag's scum mate and threw that out there to cover himself. Personally I think it's the first, because pcm seems like a pretty good player and wouldn't make that kinda of mistake, but I won't rule out any possible scenarios just yet.

. My Aage vote was obviously not serious since absolutely no one was posting but Pcm and him kept arguing a while more.

Exactly my point. Joke votes on D2? It is a chu game, so maybe I'll let that one slide.

Lol at rapid vote switching.

Game-wise, it was rapid vote switching. Nothing really happened in the days between the posts, so essentially it was still in the same stagnant place. No developments, no deep insightful comments from Victor ( ), nothing.

Lastly I think you need to give me your definition of an easy lynch. More than 2 days after his post about being sick, Victor just makes a joke vote. The next post is / voting him a day after, then me voting him a day after that. Vic follows with this...
In summary vote Vic, he's teh scum

Believe me, I want to vote for Vic every chance I get. I was thinking about unvoting you because I thought your response was reasonable, but that no one has posted much of anything (Like maybe they are defending you???). I think that if anyone thought you were town they'd be pressing for the Vic lynch, trying to convince me that Vic the "teh scum". Actually I guess that could go either way.......... For now, I'll stick with the vote, but I would like to hear from others, maybe aage and pcm?

-Tails

[aage]

What I find particulairly funny is that you're trying to get everyone from one bandwagon to another. First xuereb, okay he's replaced, now lets go all out on victor!! I have as much sympathy for Victor as I have for a tea spoon but it is odd.