Matrix mafia Day 3 - no-one died? [Abandoned]

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:51 pm

Ok my money had been on edoc and sax being scum but at this point I'm leaning slightly less towards edoc and am going to vote sax. I've looked back at his giant analysis post and from what I can tell he pretty much denied being any of the town roles. Other than that the analysis he stated made very little sense as well as most of his other posts.

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:15 pm

strike wolf wrote:Ok my money had been on edoc and sax being scum but at this point I'm leaning slightly less towards edoc and am going to vote sax. I've looked back at his giant analysis post and from what I can tell he pretty much denied being any of the town roles. Other than that the analysis he stated made very little sense as well as most of his other posts.

This is my biggest bone with Sax. He should know that there was no way to have that detailed of an idea for the game. Unvote Vote Sax for intentional disinformation.

TheSaxlad · Post by **TheSaxlad** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:31 am

Before you start a bandwagon on me, you should know that im unlynchable too guys.

and strike i never denied being a town role, in fact I am but I am not ready to give away what it is yet. There are some clues in my posts in pages before though.

If you can pick up on them they will tell you who I am.

00iCon · Post by **00iCon** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:28 am

Sax, did you just claim on l-6? why????

TheSaxlad · Post by **TheSaxlad** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:50 am

00iCon wrote:Sax, did you just claim on l-6? why????

I havent claimed. for those astute enough to find it then they can. I will not outright claim. yet

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:28 am

I'm not a mathematician but I'm pretty sure that unlynchable townie+unlynchable townie=unbalanced. two unlynchable townies that could subsequently be recruited by the cult and become two unlynchable cult members=even more unbalanced. Frankly I think you're lying and the fact that you've claimed unlynchable tells me that there's not really a downside to pushing for your lynch.

TheSaxlad · Post by **TheSaxlad** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:55 am

strike wolf wrote:I'm not a mathematician but I'm pretty sure that unlynchable townie+unlynchable townie=unbalanced. two unlynchable townies that could subsequently be recruited by the cult and become two unlynchable cult members=even more unbalanced. Frankly I think you're lying and the fact that you've claimed unlynchable tells me that there's not really a downside to pushing for your lynch.

Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.

Haggis_McMutton · Post by **Haggis_McMutton** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:47 pm

TheSaxlad wrote:
strike wolf wrote:I'm not a mathematician but I'm pretty sure that unlynchable townie+unlynchable townie=unbalanced. two unlynchable townies that could subsequently be recruited by the cult and become two unlynchable cult members=even more unbalanced. Frankly I think you're lying and the fact that you've claimed unlynchable tells me that there's not really a downside to pushing for your lynch.
Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.

I assume you're also a doctor, cop, vigilante and busdriver ...

At this point you've got to claim. You can't just say "oh btw I'm unlynchable and bulletproof. K, thnks" and expect to be left alone ...

Also, this is a comment in general. IF you are indeed a townie, for god's sake stop claiming out of the blue like this in every game. Claiming is a last resort ffs ...

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:08 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:
strike wolf wrote:I'm not a mathematician but I'm pretty sure that unlynchable townie+unlynchable townie=unbalanced. two unlynchable townies that could subsequently be recruited by the cult and become two unlynchable cult members=even more unbalanced. Frankly I think you're lying and the fact that you've claimed unlynchable tells me that there's not really a downside to pushing for your lynch.
Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.
I assume you're also a doctor, cop, vigilante and busdriver ...

At this point you've got to claim. You can't just say "oh btw I'm unlynchable and bulletproof. K, thnks" and expect to be left alone ...

Also, this is a comment in general. IF you are indeed a townie, for god's sake stop claiming out of the blue like this in every game. Claiming is a last resort ffs ...

Qft. Unlynchable and bulletproof even conditionally is overpowered and sax is quick to claim.

Commander9 · Post by **Commander9** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:37 pm

*Sighs*

I told you before that 00 is townie, yet we wasted so much time for nothing. However, not that she's ousted, I'm rather afraid of what will happen next...

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.
I assume you're also a doctor, cop, vigilante and busdriver ...

At this point you've got to claim. You can't just say "oh btw I'm unlynchable and bulletproof. K, thnks" and expect to be left alone ...

Also, this is a comment in general. IF you are indeed a townie, for god's sake stop claiming out of the blue like this in every game. Claiming is a last resort ffs ...

THIS. It would have been much better if you not said anything than say this... Not helping town at all.

I do have one question to some of you, though - how do you know that when recruited, programs will retain their skills? This is not a regular recruiting, IMO, as when Agent Smith assimilated someone in the Matrix, he just made another copy of himself, albeit weaker (Well, perhaps an over-simplification, but you get it). I personally think it would be a bit of BS is all of the abilities would indeed be retained after recruitment.

TA1LGUNN3R · Post by **TA1LGUNN3R** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:06 pm

strike wolf wrote:I'm not a mathematician but I'm pretty sure that unlynchable townie+unlynchable townie=unbalanced. two unlynchable townies that could subsequently be recruited by the cult and become two unlynchable cult members=even more unbalanced. Frankly I think you're lying and the fact that you've claimed unlynchable tells me that there's not really a downside to pushing for your lynch.

I think I know who Sax is, and he wouldn't be recruitable. I'm going to believe Sax for now. So Strike I think icon (Sati) is the one we have to worry about being recruited.

Ugh for the sake of the deadline I'm going to vote xuereb for submarining. His(her?) last post was from 6 days ago I believe. Unless I hear from him, I would rather vote a non-contributing person than someone who's been playing, since I believe that aage said there would be a lynch.

-Tails

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:15 pm

Commander9 wrote:*Sighs*

I told you before that 00 is townie, yet we wasted so much time for nothing. However, not that she's ousted, I'm rather afraid of what will happen next...

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.
I assume you're also a doctor, cop, vigilante and busdriver ...

At this point you've got to claim. You can't just say "oh btw I'm unlynchable and bulletproof. K, thnks" and expect to be left alone ...

Also, this is a comment in general. IF you are indeed a townie, for god's sake stop claiming out of the blue like this in every game. Claiming is a last resort ffs ...
THIS. It would have been much better if you not said anything than say this... Not helping town at all.

I do have one question to some of you, though - how do you know that when recruited, programs will retain their skills? This is not a regular recruiting, IMO, as when Agent Smith assimilated someone in the Matrix, he just made another copy of himself, albeit weaker (Well, perhaps an over-simplification, but you get it). I personally think it would be a bit of BS is all of the abilities would indeed be retained after recruitment.

I guess it is possible that they would lose some of their abilities. I have been in a game in the past where I had been the mafia godfather and got recruited and lost all my abilities and became a PGO somehow but even as town being both unlynchable and conditionally bulletproof and losing those abilities when becoming an Agent seems over powered to me when we already have one unlynchable player. SO it's very unbelievable and if he is somehow telling the truth than we aren't really losing anything by pressing for his lynch other than a little bit of time.

Haggis_McMutton · Post by **Haggis_McMutton** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:27 pm

strike wolf wrote:
Commander9 wrote:*Sighs*

I told you before that 00 is townie, yet we wasted so much time for nothing. However, not that she's ousted, I'm rather afraid of what will happen next...

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.
I assume you're also a doctor, cop, vigilante and busdriver ...

At this point you've got to claim. You can't just say "oh btw I'm unlynchable and bulletproof. K, thnks" and expect to be left alone ...

Also, this is a comment in general. IF you are indeed a townie, for god's sake stop claiming out of the blue like this in every game. Claiming is a last resort ffs ...
THIS. It would have been much better if you not said anything than say this... Not helping town at all.

I do have one question to some of you, though - how do you know that when recruited, programs will retain their skills? This is not a regular recruiting, IMO, as when Agent Smith assimilated someone in the Matrix, he just made another copy of himself, albeit weaker (Well, perhaps an over-simplification, but you get it). I personally think it would be a bit of BS is all of the abilities would indeed be retained after recruitment.
I guess it is possible that they would lose some of their abilities. I have been in a game in the past where I had been the mafia godfather and got recruited and lost all my abilities and became a PGO somehow but even as town being both unlynchable and conditionally bulletproof and losing those abilities when becoming an Agent seems over powered to me when we already have one unlynchable player. SO it's very unbelievable and if he is somehow telling the truth than we aren't really losing anything by pressing for his lynch other than a little bit of time.

Plus if we lynch him and he somehow turns out to actually be also unlynchable I'm guessing the mod will give us a few extra days(and piss himself laughing cause we tried to lynch 2 unlynchable characters on D1)

So, yeah. We want to hear you claim Sax, or we'll just test it.

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:02 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Commander9 wrote:*Sighs*

I told you before that 00 is townie, yet we wasted so much time for nothing. However, not that she's ousted, I'm rather afraid of what will happen next...

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Strike I am unlynchable for a reason.
I am also bulletproof until someone dies.
and I am town.
I assume you're also a doctor, cop, vigilante and busdriver ...

At this point you've got to claim. You can't just say "oh btw I'm unlynchable and bulletproof. K, thnks" and expect to be left alone ...

Also, this is a comment in general. IF you are indeed a townie, for god's sake stop claiming out of the blue like this in every game. Claiming is a last resort ffs ...
THIS. It would have been much better if you not said anything than say this... Not helping town at all.

I do have one question to some of you, though - how do you know that when recruited, programs will retain their skills? This is not a regular recruiting, IMO, as when Agent Smith assimilated someone in the Matrix, he just made another copy of himself, albeit weaker (Well, perhaps an over-simplification, but you get it). I personally think it would be a bit of BS is all of the abilities would indeed be retained after recruitment.
I guess it is possible that they would lose some of their abilities. I have been in a game in the past where I had been the mafia godfather and got recruited and lost all my abilities and became a PGO somehow but even as town being both unlynchable and conditionally bulletproof and losing those abilities when becoming an Agent seems over powered to me when we already have one unlynchable player. SO it's very unbelievable and if he is somehow telling the truth than we aren't really losing anything by pressing for his lynch other than a little bit of time.
Plus if we lynch him and he somehow turns out to actually be also unlynchable I'm guessing the mod will give us a few extra days(and piss himself laughing cause we tried to lynch 2 unlynchable characters on D1)

So, yeah. We want to hear you claim Sax, or we'll just test it.

Actually I just want to see if he is unlynchable. I really don't want to know who he is, if he is a program it will just make him a target for recruiting. Unfortunately lynching him will also tell us if he is a program or not. I see no truly good outcome.

Commander9 · Post by **Commander9** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:08 pm

strike wolf wrote: I guess it is possible that they would lose some of their abilities. I have been in a game in the past where I had been the mafia godfather and got recruited and lost all my abilities and became a PGO somehow but even as town being both unlynchable and conditionally bulletproof and losing those abilities when becoming an Agent seems over powered to me when we already have one unlynchable player. SO it's very unbelievable and if he is somehow telling the truth than we aren't really losing anything by pressing for his lynch other than a little bit of time.

edocsil wrote:Actually I just want to see if he is unlynchable. I really don't want to know who he is, if he is a program it will just make him a target for recruiting. Unfortunately lynching him will also tell us if he is a program or not. I see no truly good outcome.

I guess that does make sense, but could he possibly be an unlynchable scum? I've never encountered one, but if those are around, I'm sure you'll know.

Edoc, how will that tell us whether he's a program or not? I'm pretty sure most of the programs can be lynched as well.

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:10 am

Commander9 wrote:
strike wolf wrote: I guess it is possible that they would lose some of their abilities. I have been in a game in the past where I had been the mafia godfather and got recruited and lost all my abilities and became a PGO somehow but even as town being both unlynchable and conditionally bulletproof and losing those abilities when becoming an Agent seems over powered to me when we already have one unlynchable player. SO it's very unbelievable and if he is somehow telling the truth than we aren't really losing anything by pressing for his lynch other than a little bit of time.

edocsil wrote:Actually I just want to see if he is unlynchable. I really don't want to know who he is, if he is a program it will just make him a target for recruiting. Unfortunately lynching him will also tell us if he is a program or not. I see no truly good outcome.
I guess that does make sense, but could he possibly be an unlynchable scum? I've never encountered one, but if those are around, I'm sure you'll know.

Edoc, how will that tell us whether he's a program or not? I'm pretty sure most of the programs can be lynched as well.

Well, it will tells us his role, and a simple knowledge of the character will tell us if the character is a program or not.

TheSaxlad · Post by **TheSaxlad** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:29 am

No you really dont want to hear my claim young one. in fact my claim is the very last thing you would have hoped to hear in this game.

You might want to have a cookie, or sit down or perhaps even visit me on a bench with one of my friends.

I am a program, but I doubt that Smith can recruit me just yet. Its in your best interests to listen to me and take my advice. Whether you do or not is up to you...

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:10 pm

Vote: Sax I don't believe it. And even if I did, there's really no risk here. Sax has said all he needs to, to be a recruit

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:29 pm

Fircoal wrote:Vote: Sax I don't believe it. And even if I did, there's really no risk here. Sax has said all he needs to, to be a recruit

My thoughts. That claim was so blatant, there wasn't any real need for that yet.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:34 pm

I already knew this and I assume aage does too but:

ga7 wrote:Btw Flores needs to be replaced. And in any other game she might be.

aage · Post by **aage** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:54 pm

strike wolf wrote:I already knew this and I assume aage does too but:

ga7 wrote:Btw Flores needs to be replaced. And in any other game she might be.

Not only Flores. I'll put a replacement sign up when I'm done with the vote count.

aage · Post by **aage** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:01 pm

Votecount

1. Tailgunner
2. Edoc 1 ( Freezie)
3. VioIet 1 (saxlad)
4. Haggis
5. Freezie
6. Strike Wolf
7. TheSaxlad 3 (Edoc'sil, strike wolf, Fircoal)
8. Commander9 1 (vioIet (no they don't stack))
9. 00iCon
10. Flow520
11. xuereb (Tails)
12. /
13. Chu
14. Flores

I don't think I'll let VioIet be replaced until she reads this and decides to stop. Right now I need 2 replacements.

Haggis_McMutton · Post by **Haggis_McMutton** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:28 pm

Hmm, not sure what to make of that claim.
Anyway, there's really no downside as far as I can see to testing it.

vote Sax

/ · Post by / » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:44 pm

Agreed, deadline is closing in, and looking back at the front page, lynching an unlynchable gives us a confirmed townie. Unvote vote sax

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:17 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:Hmm, not sure what to make of that claim.
Anyway, there's really no downside as far as I can see to testing it.

vote Sax

Yes, after telling us that he is a program all my reservations are gone, may as well test if he is telling the truth. UNVOTE Vote Sax

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