jp earthquake

[Dukasaur]

cant anyone get a joke?

Yes, but the can't be publicly observed getting a joke. There's a difference....

[PLAYER57832]

Waitwaitwait, are people in some places in China and India really earning 1 dollar wages per year? I mean, I know there's slavery and shit, but are they really earning a wage of $1? Shit's fucked.

It IS more than $1 a year in most cases, but still pretty darned low. A few dollars a month is typical.

[GTE]

Still waiting for your apology caymanmew

Are you a representative of Japan? As much as cayman's "joke" was in poor taste, I'm not sure why non-Japanese people are wanting an apology from him. I can't speak with 100% certainty here, of course, but unless you have personal ties to people living in Japan, then what's the point? As a few have stated, I don't think the 45 Japanese players care much right now about what a kid said on an internet forum.

Basically, how is it anyone's place here to demand an apology? Also, Japan doesn't need your pity. Pity doesn't un-flood the land or restore the damage.

-TG

I don't need to be a rep. of Japan, or Japanese or know someone affected by this disaster! I am a member of the Human Race of which most members would be offended by his callous remarks. If he is a Man then he would recognize the stupidity of his remarks and apologize, failure to do so shows a lack of character.

To suggest that i need to be a friend or a relative of those affected to be offended by his remarks is pure nonsense.

You're correct on one point, Japan doesn't need my pity but empathy is a quality of the best of us.

[natty dread]

If he is a Man

That's the thing... he's not.

You got to be patient with children.

[natty dread]

On another note, though... I sympathize with the Japanese as much as the next guy, what happened there is simply horrible. That said, it's kinda funny how everyone instantly piled on caymanmew after one stupid remark... sure, it was a bad joke, but it wasn't really anything really heinous... just a bad, unfunny joke. He's a kid who doesn't know any better. So rather than giving him the attention he seeks, just ignore him.

Seems to me most of the guys here getting outraged at caymanmew are simply looking for a reason to feel outraged at someone.

[codeblue1018]

On another note, though... I sympathize with the Japanese as much as the next guy, what happened there is simply horrible. That said, it's kinda funny how everyone instantly piled on caymanmew after one stupid remark... sure, it was a bad joke, but it wasn't really anything really heinous... just a bad, unfunny joke. He's a kid who doesn't know any better. So rather than giving him the attention he seeks, just ignore him.

Seems to me most of the guys here getting outraged at caymanmew are simply looking for a reason to feel outraged at someone.

Natty? That last paragraph is absolute nonsense. Caymanmew, whether a juvenile or not (allegedly 15), his peanut of a brain should be able to decipher the difference between right and wrong, no question. Joke or not, unacceptable! So that said, I don't log into cc, enter the forum and intentionally find a post such as this wherein I can find a person to unleash my frustrations and become outraged; as I said, nonsense. Obviously his upbringing failed to instill an important human trait; empathy.

[Dukasaur]

Natty? That last paragraph is absolute nonsense. Caymanmew, whether a juvenile or not (allegedly 15), his peanut of a brain should be able to decipher the difference between right and wrong, no question. Joke or not, unacceptable! So that said, I don't log into cc, enter the forum and intentionally find a post such as this wherein I can find a person to unleash my frustrations and become outraged; as I said, nonsense. Obviously his upbringing failed to instill an important human trait; empathy.

Empathy does not preclude humour.

I know very little about cayman and care about him even less, but I do not think he should be pilloried for joking about an unpleasant subject.

When I was in my last year of high school I was tarring the roof of our house with my father. The tar cooker exploded and much of my body was covered in hot tar; by quick thinking or perhaps by blind instinct I threw myself face down in the wet grass and thus my burns were mostly first- and second-degree and not third degree. Still, the total pain was astonishing and I was in the hospital for two weeks.

My friends visited me often in the hospital, and those who had seen our farm knew that the grass around the house was full of feathers from our chickens and geese, so it wasn't long before I was known as "the boy who got tarred and feathered." The jokes continued long after I was out of the hospital and back to school. Who knows -- if the label wasn't so long and inconvenient to say, it might have become my new nickname.

When I think back to those days I barely remember the pain. I do remember the laughs my friends and I had about it.

Okay, so you might say death is worse than a few second-degree burns, and kilodeaths are even worse. Perhaps so, but the difference is in degree, not in kind. Unfortunate events happen; they're as much a part of life as the other kind, and there should be no reason why one can't discuss them in any conversational modality, including humour.

[codeblue1018]

Dukasaur,

Your correct about one thing; your circumstance compared to the Japan tragedy is very different; in fact, night and day. I'm glad your fine now btw. One of the major differences you described is the fact that you and your "friends" had fun with your incident. This is good, especially amongst friends. This breaks the awkwardness that you or your friends may have had during your ordeal, which makes for a coping mechanism between all involved. See, I am pretty certain that he has no affiliation with anyone in the country of Japan nor the countless maimed or deceased. There is a big difference between both situations just as I described. Joking is fine; we do it daily as humans. There is a difference between malicious joking and joking that will bring a good laugh. Would it be ok to joke about African Americans; Jewish people; handicap people; make jokes about the halocaust? Absolutely not! As I said, 15 years old or not; he should know better.
Understand, slot of diverse people from all over the world read the forums; could there be a person not from japan but has relatives in the affected area be reading this? Very possible. This alone is why this shouldn't be tolerated. I won't make any additional posts; I tried to convey my view and I think I've done so.

[Army of GOD]

codeblue, but what you're failing to understand is that you're view of morality isn't EVERYBODY'S view of morality. I don't care about how old cayman is, he shouldn't have to apologize and honestly he should make that joke whenever he wants to. But no, you guys try your hardest to force your morality on other people and it's enraging, honestly. I know A LOT of people (including Jews) that make Holocaust jokes (I admit, I'm guilty of this as well). South Park makes "too soon" jokes all the time (Steve Irwin, for instance).

What the Hell is being empathetic over the internet supposed to do anyway? I usually bite my tongue in situations like this, but I'm too pissed off right now. For all we know, cayman donated his life savings to Japanese relief efforts.

Christ...



tl;dr - we need a class in moral relativity

[Caymanmew]

Maybe their time before losing the turn might be extended to a week.

you want to wait a week for a dead guy to play there turn?

Nothing more than a piece of garbage! No question! I have never foed a person without playing them until now. Is this a first?

hate to be the one to say it but we have played some games together in the past

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Hm I think GTE and codeblue are missing my point. Just because you're part of the "human race" (homo sapiens) doesn't mean shit in relation to the situation. Generally, one apologizes when they wrong somebody else, and they apologize to the person directly. It's a cause-effect thing. No one else is involved. If I'm driving and rear-end somebody, why should someone who is a mile away, with no interest in the accident, demand my apology? They weren't there, it didn't affect them whatsoever.

AoG is also correct that morals are relative. So, how is empathy an important "human quality"? Why is it so? Because you think so?

-TG

[codeblue1018]

Hm I think GTE and codeblue are missing my point. Just because you're part of the "human race" (homo sapiens) doesn't mean shit in relation to the situation. Generally, one apologizes when they wrong somebody else, and they apologize to the person directly. It's a cause-effect thing. No one else is involved. If I'm driving and rear-end somebody, why should someone who is a mile away, with no interest in the accident, demand my apology? They weren't there, it didn't affect them whatsoever.

AoG is also correct that morals are relative. So, how is empathy an important "human quality"? Why is it so? Because you think so?

-TG

I missed no point TG. I never requested or demanded that he apologize; someone else did. I'm simply giving my two cents on a particular comment that he made public here on CC as you're doing; nothing more. I understand fully that all do not share my views or points; this is what we call a debate on a certain issue. I can guarantee that the majority of the readers will side with "some" of my opinions - thus far, I would say that is true.

[Army of GOD]

Hm I think GTE and codeblue are missing my point. Just because you're part of the "human race" (homo sapiens) doesn't mean shit in relation to the situation. Generally, one apologizes when they wrong somebody else, and they apologize to the person directly. It's a cause-effect thing. No one else is involved. If I'm driving and rear-end somebody, why should someone who is a mile away, with no interest in the accident, demand my apology? They weren't there, it didn't affect them whatsoever.

AoG is also correct that morals are relative. So, how is empathy an important "human quality"? Why is it so? Because you think so?

-TG

I missed no point TG. I never requested or demanded that he apologize; someone else did. I'm simply giving my two cents on a particular comment that he made public here on CC as you're doing; nothing more. I understand fully that all do not share my views or points; this is what we call a debate on a certain issue. I can guarantee that the majority of the readers will side with "some" of my opinions - thus far, I would say that is true.

Hahaha you're not debating. You gave your opinion, which you believe to be absolute truth (or at least that's the tone you used in your last few posts. Examples: "As I said, 15 years old or not; he should know better. ", "This alone is why this shouldn't be tolerated.", "his peanut of a brain should be able to decipher the difference between right and wrong, no question."...I could go on...), and then you're "leaving" ("I won't make any additional posts"). You didn't even answer TG's questions...

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Well it certainly appears like you want him to apologize, what with all the statements you've already made. They imply that you find the comment morally objectionable. I'll agree that it was in poor taste, and I certainly wouldn't say something like that, but "This alone is why this shouldn't be tolerated..." pretty much speaks volumes on the matter.

-TG

[GTE]

My demand for an apology was less of a need and more of a test, sure i was offended just as any good hearted person would be. I wanted to see if Caym was a person of character or not, a person of strength or of weakness. I have my answer now.

Enough said, God Bless all those affected by this horrible disaster, may God grant them peace.

[Woodruff]

On another note, though... I sympathize with the Japanese as much as the next guy, what happened there is simply horrible. That said, it's kinda funny how everyone instantly piled on caymanmew after one stupid remark... sure, it was a bad joke, but it wasn't really anything really heinous... just a bad, unfunny joke. He's a kid who doesn't know any better. So rather than giving him the attention he seeks, just ignore him.

Seems to me most of the guys here getting outraged at caymanmew are simply looking for a reason to feel outraged at someone.

Natty? That last paragraph is absolute nonsense. Caymanmew, whether a juvenile or not (allegedly 15), his peanut of a brain should be able to decipher the difference between right and wrong, no question. Joke or not, unacceptable! So that said, I don't log into cc, enter the forum and intentionally find a post such as this wherein I can find a person to unleash my frustrations and become outraged; as I said, nonsense. Obviously his upbringing failed to instill an important human trait; empathy.

To just add on a bit, if caymanmew ISN'T corrected when making comments such as he did, then he might not get the opportunity to learn how and why what he said was wrong (or if not wrong, then certainly in very bad taste). That's part of learning and growing...being shown your mistakes so you don't make them again.

[natty dread]

To just add on a bit, if caymanmew ISN'T corrected when making comments such as he did, then he might not get the opportunity to learn how and why what he said was wrong (or if not wrong, then certainly in very bad taste). That's part of learning and growing...being shown your mistakes so you don't make them again.

Corrected, sure. For that, one guy telling him "what you said wasn't funny and it was really stupid" would be sufficient... but when 4-5 guys instantly jump over the chance to "put someone at their place"... well, it's just really silly. They're just giving him the attention he desires, thus reinforcing his stupidity.

[Caymanmew]

i find it funny how you guys keeps saying stuff like "we should not give him the attention he wants" but as you say it your doing that very thing. you guys all need to get over yourselves and realize that your opinion is not "right" (as opinions are not facts) and not everyone agrees with it. i personally have not problem with what i said and would not have a problem with it if someone else said it. that being said clearly some of you guys took it the wrong way and are upset about it and truly all i have to say to that is suck it up and move on perhaps grow some thicker skin when your at it.

[Woodruff]

i find it funny how you guys keeps saying stuff like "we should not give him the attention he wants" but as you say it your doing that very thing. you guys all need to get over yourselves and realize that your opinion is not "right" (as opinions are not facts) and not everyone agrees with it. i personally have not problem with what i said and would not have a problem with it if someone else said it. that being said clearly some of you guys took it the wrong way and are upset about it and truly all i have to say to that is suck it up and move on perhaps grow some thicker skin when your at it.

That's because you're a kid with very little perspective going for you. Hopefully one day, that will change.

[Army of GOD]

On another note, though... I sympathize with the Japanese as much as the next guy, what happened there is simply horrible. That said, it's kinda funny how everyone instantly piled on caymanmew after one stupid remark... sure, it was a bad joke, but it wasn't really anything really heinous... just a bad, unfunny joke. He's a kid who doesn't know any better. So rather than giving him the attention he seeks, just ignore him.

Seems to me most of the guys here getting outraged at caymanmew are simply looking for a reason to feel outraged at someone.

Natty? That last paragraph is absolute nonsense. Caymanmew, whether a juvenile or not (allegedly 15), his peanut of a brain should be able to decipher the difference between right and wrong, no question. Joke or not, unacceptable! So that said, I don't log into cc, enter the forum and intentionally find a post such as this wherein I can find a person to unleash my frustrations and become outraged; as I said, nonsense. Obviously his upbringing failed to instill an important human trait; empathy.

To just add on a bit, if caymanmew ISN'T corrected when making comments such as he did, then he might not get the opportunity to learn how and why what he said was wrong (or if not wrong, then certainly in very bad taste). That's part of learning and growing...being shown your mistakes so you don't make them again.

Yes, because if you don't bow down to the standard of morality set by a bunch of people on the internet, then you're in trouble.

He's 15(ish). Not 3 years old.

[Woodruff]

On another note, though... I sympathize with the Japanese as much as the next guy, what happened there is simply horrible. That said, it's kinda funny how everyone instantly piled on caymanmew after one stupid remark... sure, it was a bad joke, but it wasn't really anything really heinous... just a bad, unfunny joke. He's a kid who doesn't know any better. So rather than giving him the attention he seeks, just ignore him.

Seems to me most of the guys here getting outraged at caymanmew are simply looking for a reason to feel outraged at someone.

Natty? That last paragraph is absolute nonsense. Caymanmew, whether a juvenile or not (allegedly 15), his peanut of a brain should be able to decipher the difference between right and wrong, no question. Joke or not, unacceptable! So that said, I don't log into cc, enter the forum and intentionally find a post such as this wherein I can find a person to unleash my frustrations and become outraged; as I said, nonsense. Obviously his upbringing failed to instill an important human trait; empathy.

To just add on a bit, if caymanmew ISN'T corrected when making comments such as he did, then he might not get the opportunity to learn how and why what he said was wrong (or if not wrong, then certainly in very bad taste). That's part of learning and growing...being shown your mistakes so you don't make them again.

Yes, because if you don't bow down to the standard of morality set by a bunch of people on the internet, then you're in trouble.
He's 15(ish). Not 3 years old.

That's almost as ludicrous of a twisting of a statement as pimpdave's. I'm sure your juvenile mind must be impressed with yourself.

[natty dread]

Well, I do think that it should primarily be his parents who teach him what is right and wrong, not random people on the internet...

[Woodruff]

Well, I do think that it should primarily be his parents who teach him what is right and wrong, not random people on the internet...

I don't disagree at all. But then I look at some parents that are around today and realize that those "some parents" aren't really parents.

But that's irrelevant to Army of GOD's idiocy.