Chris Nolan Mafia - Game Over [ARCHIVE]

[safariguy5]

The reason I didn't vote sheep, is because things were centered around edoc and nag at the time, to my recollection. I didn't want to cast a divisive vote without more feedback from everyone else.

The cases on them were dwindling down and activity was slowing, so i thought it was a good time to bring forth a new case. But lately when I've been doing all my scum hunting, i've been keeping an eye out on people who have been casting what i call "divisive votes."

That is basically when there is heat and a bandwagon growing on one or two players, and someone just comes out of the blue, and casts a random vote for someone else, without even commenting on the arguments at hand. Lately I have been calling people out for such behavior, like in the POTC game. I didn't want to be a hypocrite and do the very exact same thing this game with sheep. So I thought an FOS would suffice for the moment, and just bring some attention to him.

I agree that this is a pretty good strategy, but I generally find it more effective when there is a deadline/ a clear cut suspect or two. I personally thought the edoc/nag thing was more a philosophical dispute than anything.

[pancakemix]

Vote Count

Safari - 3 (edoc, TG, chu)
edoc - 2 (Sheep, spiesr)
TG - 1 (Nag)
No Lynch - 1 (saf)
spiesr - 1 (Streaker)

With 10 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

I'll be imposing a deadline. Day will end at 11:59 pm EST (GMT-4) on April 18th.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Vote Count

Safari - 1 (edoc, TG, chu)
edoc - 1 (Sheep, spiesr)
Comm - 1 (Nag)
No Lynch - 1 (saf)
spiesr - 1 (Streaker)

With 10 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

I'll be imposing a deadline. Day will end at 11:59 pm EST (GMT-4) on April 18th.

Hey I think nag voted for me like 7 posts up.

-Tails

[edocsil]

I'll be imposing a deadline. Day will end at 11:59 pm EST (GMT-4) on April 18th.

Good this is getting ridiculous.

[Streaker]

I think it's about time for me to switch votes. Only 6 days left for this Day, and spiessr isn't getting enough attention. I still don't like how safari is willing, or even advocating, a No lynch just because 'we have about as much information as a regular Day 1'. Here we have the opportunity to dig deeper on the first Day, yet he is reluctant. Is it that great to go to Night and give mafia their kill? What will we do tomorrow? Just vote no lynch in case we find out a town power role? As Fircoal put it so well, we haven't found out anything about anyone but shield. And he's dead. Not town.

This, and my previous post about safari makes me Unvote, vote safariguy

[nagerous]

Activity is dwindling in all the games and no one seems to be pressuring.. I guess more pressure on safari won't hurt even if I don't think there's much in this case

unvote vote safari

[sheepofdumb]

I was sitting on the edge with safari. I understood where he was coming from with his no lynch. It's a double standard to almost lynch a guy for voting no lynch and then letting the next guy get away with it on the same day. If no one is going to follow suit with my case against edoc then I'll switch my vote. Not right now though because he's at L-2 and from what I understand that's where the new claim milestone is.

[safariguy5]

Alright, I'm Will Dormer from Insomnia, Town Bulletproof. The long days ensure that I'm up all night, thus making me immune from nightkills. However, because I killed my partner, anyone who investigates me will cause me to commit suicide.

Yeah, I know it's convenient, but it's what I have. And for the record Streaker,

I think it's about time for me to switch votes. Only 6 days left for this Day, and spiessr isn't getting enough attention. I still don't like how safari is willing, or even advocating, a No lynch just because 'we have about as much information as a regular Day 1'. Here we have the opportunity to dig deeper on the first Day, yet he is reluctant. Is it that great to go to Night and give mafia their kill? What will we do tomorrow? Just vote no lynch in case we find out a town power role? As Fircoal put it so well, we haven't found out anything about anyone but shield. And he's dead. Not town.

This, and my previous post about safari makes me Unvote, vote safariguy

We have found out that there is probably a SKer with some kind of Daykill ability. I wouldn't normally suggest a no lynch, but daykill abilities scare me. I think it's inadvisable to force more day 1 claims than necessary now that we know that. But I guess if you're going to force anyone to claim, it's better that it's me because I'm not a power role.

[spiesr]

Alright, I'm Will Dormer from Insomnia, Town Bulletproof. The long days ensure that I'm up all night, thus making me immune from nightkills. However, because I killed my partner, anyone who investigates me will cause me to commit suicide.

Does your bulletproof ability extend to daykills as well? Or do you not know?
Now, is this claim to be believed? Well, it sounds like a plausible role and character. But, if the scum might have fakeclaims then we can never really be sure about a claim.
Safariguy, do you know if you dying upon investigation only applies to cop investigations? I mean, are roles like watchers, tackers, gunsmiths and so on able to target you without you dying?

[safariguy5]

Alright, I'm Will Dormer from Insomnia, Town Bulletproof. The long days ensure that I'm up all night, thus making me immune from nightkills. However, because I killed my partner, anyone who investigates me will cause me to commit suicide.

Does your bulletproof ability extend to daykills as well? Or do you not know?
Now, is this claim to be believed? Well, it sounds like a plausible role and character. But, if the scum might have fakeclaims then we can never really be sure about a claim.
Safariguy, do you know if you dying upon investigation only applies to cop investigations? I mean, are roles like watchers, tackers, gunsmiths and so on able to target you without you dying?

I was not told whether me being bulletproof extends to daykills. Also, the role simply states investigation, I could pm pcm about it.

Another interesting thing that I noticed is that I win if all non town factions are eliminated or their vendettas are settled. That means that there are some secondary win conditions, and I'm pretty sure the joker character wants Batman dead.

Also, my secondary win condition is to get some sleep. Dunno how I'm going to achieve that, but dying probably isn't the way.

[spiesr]

Another interesting thing that I noticed is that I win if all non town factions are eliminated or their vendettas are settled. That means that there are some secondary win conditions, and I'm pretty sure the joker character wants Batman dead.

Uh, oh. This comes awfully close to quoting your role pm in my opinion. Seems like a probably violation of rule 2.

2. Do not quote any PMs you receive from the Mod. The only things you may post (loosely paraphrasing) are your roles (and anything associated with them), and alignment, during the active game. Once the game has concluded, feel free to post the rest of your personal information. You may not post your win condition, how many words are in your role PM, or any other kind of way to get around not quoting PMs.

[safariguy5]

Aw crap...shouldn't have reread my role pm.

[edocsil]

Aw crap...shouldn't have reread my role pm.

How close is it? Could it be modkill worthy?

[sheepofdumb]

Looks pretty close. This is up to pancake but I wouldn't be surprised.

I call bull on that role. Now I know that pancake is taking liberties with the roles (I thought that Teddy would have been an insane cop) but Will is not bulletproof and he does not act pro-town. At the end of the movie he dies in a shootout. If anything Will would be perfect for a 2 man mafia along with Robin Williams.
Vote Safari for an unbelievable role claim.

[safariguy5]

Morally ambiguous characters can go either way in these kinds of games. Mr. White and Brown were townies in Tarantino Mafia. So was Jules Winnfield.

[pancakemix]

As much as I hate to do this, safari definitely crossed the line set in rule #2 and will be modkilled. Scene upcoming.

[edocsil]

As much as I hate to do this, safari definitely crossed the line set in rule #2 and will be modkilled. Scene upcoming.

Shoot, that means he was telling mostly the truth.

[safariguy5]

As much as I hate to do this, safari definitely crossed the line set in rule #2 and will be modkilled. Scene upcoming.

God damn it, my bad pcm. Although it looked like I was for the rope anyways.

[Fircoal]

Looks pretty close. This is up to pancake but I wouldn't be surprised.

I call bull on that role. Now I know that pancake is taking liberties with the roles (I thought that Teddy would have been an insane cop) but Will is not bulletproof and he does not act pro-town. At the end of the movie he dies in a shootout. If anything Will would be perfect for a 2 man mafia along with Robin Williams.
Vote Safari for an unbelievable role claim.

I call bull with the role too. Seriously since when did staying up protect you from dying? I mean kills happen in the day when everyone is awake. In fact one just happened in this game! That sounds like quite a double standard that you're making out that Pancake is doing.

[pancakemix]

Eternal Sleep

EXT. CITY STREET - EVENING

The sun begins to set on the intersection where Shieldgenerator's body was found. Safariguy stands over the body, looking pensively at the scars on the dead man's face. Safari breathes deeply, and sighs.

???: It's getting late, you know.

Safari turns around to see who is speaking. FIRCOAL emerges from a shadowy spot and begins to approach Safari.

Chu: If you want to help him, the only way you can do that now is to find who did it to him. Don't lose sleep over this.

Safari: I'll be losing sleep, but not for his sake. It's just that... (pause) I can't help but feel like maybe he was onto something. You know, when he said we shouldn't kill anyone today.

Chu: I'm going to tell the others you think so. And when I do, you'll certainly take his place in the gallows.

Safari: Hah. Let them try. Not even God could kill me.

Chu: If you say so.

Fircoal leaves to tell the others. As he leaves, a lighting bolt comes down from the sky and strikes Safari, who promptly falls to the ground, motionless. Fircoal, having heard the thunder, turns and sees Safari's body. He turns once again and runs to tell the others of Safari's fate.

Safariguy5 AKA Will Dormer (Insomnia, 2002) Pro-Town Bulletproof



has been modkilled.

Day continues. With 9 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[nagerous]

unvote vote edocsil

He doesn't seem to know what the town WC is.

[spiesr]

I call bull with the role too. Seriously since when did staying up protect you from dying? I mean kills happen in the day when everyone is awake. In fact one just happened in this game! That sounds like quite a double standard that you're making out that Pancake is doing.

So, Fircoal, did you skim or something? Why where you stating your disbelief in safariguy's claim after pancakemix said he is going to modkill him for posting his win condition? Shouldn't that have implied that he was telling the truth?

With 9 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

With the number of votes needed for a lynch still hanging one above the normal, I guess the most likely scenario is that we have someone with an extra vote or something?

unvote vote edocsil
He doesn't seem to know what the town WC is.

Good point. Thus bringing up why that rule existed in the first place...

[sheepofdumb]

Not what I expected Will's role to be. I'm 0 for 2 for calling roles. Not that it mattered because they weren't lynches. I think I'll stop trying to metagame with the flavor because I have no idea what Pancakes setup is.

Back to my case against Edoc.

Vote Edoc

[Fircoal]

I call bull with the role too. Seriously since when did staying up protect you from dying? I mean kills happen in the day when everyone is awake. In fact one just happened in this game! That sounds like quite a double standard that you're making out that Pancake is doing.

So, Fircoal, did you skim or something? Why where you stating your disbelief in safariguy's claim after pancakemix said he is going to modkill him for posting his win condition? Shouldn't that have implied that he was telling the truth?

I loaded up the page. Went to Safeway to get some soda and other stuff. That took 30 minutes. Finished reading thread that was loaded on the page. Posted out a reply. Then relooked at the page to realize posts had happened while I was at Safeway. x3

[Fircoal]

Not what I expected Will's role to be. I'm 0 for 2 for calling roles. Not that it mattered because they weren't lynches. I think I'll stop trying to metagame with the flavor because I have no idea what any setup is.

Fixed

Also I will also Vote: Edoc for the same gamebreaking reasons.