South Park Mafia [Scum Win]

[kratos644]

Okay so from what I've read the only actual case seems to be against 40k and honestly with the current information we have it's weak at best unless someone counterclaims. Now if we don't get chef tonight I'm all for having 40k give the message first assuming another one is sent. Unfortunately I don't have anything better to go on from what I've seen so far.

[chapcrap]

Chap, evil made some good points against you and you seem to get flustered and upset very easily by it. Honestly I think the two of you are arguing now just to argue and neither one will convince the other. Instead of focusing on eachother though maybe focus towards an inactive and you two can find some common ground.

That's what I tried to say earlier...

Anyways, evil, I know that you have a brain. No need to start growing one.

Who are the inactives that you are looking at Tal?

[Talapus]

Well it would be nice to get lala, Steaker, and / in here to chat. Streaker is scarce in others games though too right now.

[chapcrap]

Well it would be nice to get lala, Steaker, and / in here to chat. Streaker is scarce in others games though too right now.

Yes, and / has yet to confirm on Fir's new game. However, that doesn't account for the absence the rest of the time. lala was in here earlier, just not doing anything. Of those 3, I'd look at / first.

$.02

[evilchaos]

lala has been present in other games (Pokemon Mafia), so I would love his opinion on everything. Catchup post expected.

[lalaland]

catchup coming in next 2 hours

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Sorry sorry, I was absent for memorial day and yesterday as I said in the game I'm hosting, since many of you are in said game I thought you might have known, I'll catch up on everything tomorrow.

[lalaland]

Like Talapus, I have my doubts that Cartman is necessarily pro-town, my rather weak reasoning being role flavor due to wikipedia. Of course, this isn't to say that he is necessarily mafia (as generally I'm against assuming alliance out of role), but rather that we can't count on it either way. So Cartman, who I'm assuming is DoomYoshi, wouldn't be a bad target for investigation.

So right now, correct me if I'm wrong, we think the maine 4 are:
40k, Stan
Chapcrap, Kenny (by virtue of mumbles)
Doomyoshi (got message) Cartman(?)
evilchaos (got message addressed to Cartman but says it isn't him) Kyle (?)
given the information we have thus far.

If it were the case that Cartman wasn't town, that would mean that I think that Chef is not necessarily anti-town by simple virtue of the message sent to "Cartman". (Although the whole Safari-poison-soup think does point strongly to the conclusion that Chef is probably mafia, and at the least 3rd party.)
So, these issues may be better left until tomorrow if we can get some sort of investigation going on, but that's what I've found for now.

Also, I'm not quite sure why DoomYoshi is letting safari vote through him instead of using his own logic for votes right now.
So FOS Doomyoshi

[Commander9]

Like Talapus, I have my doubts that Cartman is necessarily pro-town, my rather weak reasoning being role flavor due to wikipedia. Of course, this isn't to say that he is necessarily mafia (as generally I'm against assuming alliance out of role), but rather that we can't count on it either way. So Cartman, who I'm assuming is DoomYoshi, wouldn't be a bad target for investigation.

So right now, correct me if I'm wrong, we think the maine 4 are:
40k, Stan
Chapcrap, Kenny (by virtue of mumbles)
Doomyoshi (got message) Cartman(?)
evilchaos (got message addressed to Cartman but says it isn't him) Kyle (?)
given the information we have thus far.

If it were the case that Cartman wasn't town, that would mean that I think that Chef is not necessarily anti-town by simple virtue of the message sent to "Cartman". (Although the whole Safari-poison-soup think does point strongly to the conclusion that Chef is probably mafia, and at the least 3rd party.)
So, these issues may be better left until tomorrow if we can get some sort of investigation going on, but that's what I've found for now.

Also, I'm not quite sure why DoomYoshi is letting safari vote through him instead of using his own logic for votes right now.
So FOS Doomyoshi

To anyone who has watched the series, it would not make any sense that Chef would be NOT TOWN. Furthermore, again, I'm doubting that "soup" story.

[40kguy]

Like Talapus, I have my doubts that Cartman is necessarily pro-town, my rather weak reasoning being role flavor due to wikipedia. Of course, this isn't to say that he is necessarily mafia (as generally I'm against assuming alliance out of role), but rather that we can't count on it either way. So Cartman, who I'm assuming is DoomYoshi, wouldn't be a bad target for investigation.

So right now, correct me if I'm wrong, we think the maine 4 are:
40k, Stan
Chapcrap, Kenny (by virtue of mumbles)
Doomyoshi (got message) Cartman(?)
evilchaos (got message addressed to Cartman but says it isn't him) Kyle (?)
given the information we have thus far.

If it were the case that Cartman wasn't town, that would mean that I think that Chef is not necessarily anti-town by simple virtue of the message sent to "Cartman". (Although the whole Safari-poison-soup think does point strongly to the conclusion that Chef is probably mafia, and at the least 3rd party.)
So, these issues may be better left until tomorrow if we can get some sort of investigation going on, but that's what I've found for now.

Also, I'm not quite sure why DoomYoshi is letting safari vote through him instead of using his own logic for votes right now.
So FOS Doomyoshi

To anyone who has watched the series, it would not make any sense that Chef would be NOT TOWN. Furthermore, again, I'm doubting that "soup" story.

or saf is mafia and he helped us.

[evilchaos]

Like Talapus, I have my doubts that Cartman is necessarily pro-town, my rather weak reasoning being role flavor due to wikipedia. Of course, this isn't to say that he is necessarily mafia (as generally I'm against assuming alliance out of role), but rather that we can't count on it either way. So Cartman, who I'm assuming is DoomYoshi, wouldn't be a bad target for investigation.

So right now, correct me if I'm wrong, we think the maine 4 are:
40k, Stan
Chapcrap, Kenny (by virtue of mumbles)
Doomyoshi (got message) Cartman(?)
evilchaos (got message addressed to Cartman but says it isn't him) Kyle (?)
given the information we have thus far.

If it were the case that Cartman wasn't town, that would mean that I think that Chef is not necessarily anti-town by simple virtue of the message sent to "Cartman". (Although the whole Safari-poison-soup think does point strongly to the conclusion that Chef is probably mafia, and at the least 3rd party.)
So, these issues may be better left until tomorrow if we can get some sort of investigation going on, but that's what I've found for now.

Also, I'm not quite sure why DoomYoshi is letting safari vote through him instead of using his own logic for votes right now.
So FOS Doomyoshi

Remember, anyone who claimed to receive the message could still be:

A) Mafia looking to fit in
B) Chef looking to fit in

Just throwing that out there so we don't exclude any possibilities.

[safariguy5]

Like Talapus, I have my doubts that Cartman is necessarily pro-town, my rather weak reasoning being role flavor due to wikipedia. Of course, this isn't to say that he is necessarily mafia (as generally I'm against assuming alliance out of role), but rather that we can't count on it either way. So Cartman, who I'm assuming is DoomYoshi, wouldn't be a bad target for investigation.

So right now, correct me if I'm wrong, we think the maine 4 are:
40k, Stan
Chapcrap, Kenny (by virtue of mumbles)
Doomyoshi (got message) Cartman(?)
evilchaos (got message addressed to Cartman but says it isn't him) Kyle (?)
given the information we have thus far.

If it were the case that Cartman wasn't town, that would mean that I think that Chef is not necessarily anti-town by simple virtue of the message sent to "Cartman". (Although the whole Safari-poison-soup think does point strongly to the conclusion that Chef is probably mafia, and at the least 3rd party.)
So, these issues may be better left until tomorrow if we can get some sort of investigation going on, but that's what I've found for now.

Also, I'm not quite sure why DoomYoshi is letting safari vote through him instead of using his own logic for votes right now.
So FOS Doomyoshi

To anyone who has watched the series, it would not make any sense that Chef would be NOT TOWN. Furthermore, again, I'm doubting that "soup" story.

Well ok, if you don't believe that the terrible soup made me voteless, I can vote, but it won't be counted. Don't worry Yoshi, I'm just proving I'm voteless.

vote DoomYoshi

[Commander9]

Remember, anyone who claimed to receive the message could still be:

A) Mafia looking to fit in
B) Chef looking to fit in

Just throwing that out there so we don't exclude any possibilities.

Just curious - lets say one of the 4 claimed boys is chef? What does he get from that? He has a pretty much solid town claim anyways.

Well ok, if you don't believe that the terrible soup made me voteless, I can vote, but it won't be counted. Don't worry Yoshi, I'm just proving I'm voteless.

vote DoomYoshi

And this could also be a confirmation to your role - I approve.

[DoomYoshi]

Ok. I am Cartman, investigate me if you want. I am not using my own logic right now as we are out of cases, and I am in general agreement that pressuring inactives isn't that bad. I want to find Chef, as I think he is even fatter than Cartman, and is therefore obviously scum

Commander, you seem bent on proving that Chef isn't scum. Are you chef?

[Commander9]

Ok. I am Cartman, investigate me if you want. I am not using my own logic right now as we are out of cases, and I am in general agreement that pressuring inactives isn't that bad. I want to find Chef, as I think he is even fatter than Cartman, and is therefore obviously scum

Commander, you seem bent on proving that Chef isn't scum. Are you chef?

Finally someone has seen the hints. Yes, yes I am. You found me... Now what?

[DoomYoshi]

Ok. I am Cartman, investigate me if you want. I am not using my own logic right now as we are out of cases, and I am in general agreement that pressuring inactives isn't that bad. I want to find Chef, as I think he is even fatter than Cartman, and is therefore obviously scum

Commander, you seem bent on proving that Chef isn't scum. Are you chef?

Finally someone has seen the hints. Yes, yes I am. You found me... Now what?

Why are you coming after me? I have done nothing to you.

[Commander9]

Why are you coming after me? I have done nothing to you.

Your role. I honestly can't think of that many evil South Park characters, but Cartman is definitely one of them. I can easily see him as being the godfather (different name, though) or some other pro-town role.

[DoomYoshi]

Well, I am town, just like the rest of them. Why is your soup messing people up?

[safariguy5]

Well, I am town, just like the rest of them. Why is your soup messing people up?

Did Com9 say he was sending the terrible soup? I didn't see anything that indicated that.

[evilchaos]

Ok. I am Cartman, investigate me if you want. I am not using my own logic right now as we are out of cases, and I am in general agreement that pressuring inactives isn't that bad. I want to find Chef, as I think he is even fatter than Cartman, and is therefore obviously scum

Commander, you seem bent on proving that Chef isn't scum. Are you chef?

Finally someone has seen the hints. Yes, yes I am. You found me... Now what?

If you're willing to hint at it, why not overtly claim it? And why did you poison saf's soup?

[Commander9]

Well, I am town, just like the rest of them. Why is your soup messing people up?

I didn't do anything - that's why before I said that soup is not doing anything.

Did Com9 say he was sending the terrible soup? I didn't see anything that indicated that.

This. I've been told NOTHING about the soup on my PM.

If you're willing to hint at it, why not overtly claim it? And why did you poison saf's soup?

Because it was an absolutely OBVIOUS hint - I had no idea ANYONE could miss it. As far as soup goes... Please, PLEASE read the thread before commenting.

[40kguy]

I Think tail is mafia, everyone else is town and he dose not post

I'm new so someone tell me if I'm right

[lalaland]

I Think tail is mafia, everyone else is town and he dose not post

I'm new so someone tell me if I'm right

Why are you posting useless garbage?

[evilchaos]

@Com9: You haven't posted about soup since you overtly claimed. The hints you left obviously were not as clear as you thought, as it wasn't until last page that the majority realized you were claiming Chef. Everything you posted before that I took as random thoughts regarding what the soup might do, because I had know knowledge of your role.

So, what we have here is a few possibilities:

A) You're lieing and you fed bad soup to Saf.
B) Someone else fed your bad soup to Saf.
C) Saf is lieing about why he can't vote.
D) The bad soup was a random game event created by the mod (I find this unlikely).

Other than the last one being unlikely, there isn't much evidence to support or refute any of the first three.

Did your role PM include any info about other characters maybe working in your kitchen Com9?

[Commander9]

First of all, as far as I'm aware, the message is not supposed to make anyone voteless. Second of all, there are 4 recipients - all the boys had to get it. If a particular person is not coming through, it is safe to assume that he has something to hide.

And question to all: Why would you assume that all 4 boys are pro-town?

Well, he didn't mention the message from Chef which was only supposed to be sent to the four boys, so that somewhat confirms him.

@Commander. How do you know for sure the message was sent to all boys? How do you know for sure there will be more messages?

You still can't figure it out?...

Gee.... Definitely not obvious? I am sorry, but if you can't understand and see the role after reading this and you actually need to hear me say that my role is Chef... Well, I have bad news for you.

@Com9: You haven't posted about soup since you overtly claimed. The hints you left obviously were not as clear as you thought, as it wasn't until last page that the majority realized you were claiming Chef. Everything you posted before that I took as random thoughts regarding what the soup might do, because I had know knowledge of your role.

So, what we have here is a few possibilities:

A) You're lieing and you fed bad soup to Saf.
B) Someone else fed your bad soup to Saf.
C) Saf is lieing about why he can't vote.
D) The bad soup was a random game event created by the mod (I find this unlikely).

Other than the last one being unlikely, there isn't much evidence to support or refute any of the first three.

Did your role PM include any info about other characters maybe working in your kitchen Com9?

Read above.

Lying? Do explain, please. There was obsoletely nothing mentioned about any kitchen, other workers, soup or others food. NOTHING. NADA. This possibly could be a secret mod setup that any time I deliver a message to the boys (or perhaps even without it), I make one of them voteless, but I really doubt that scenario.