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You actually believe that homosexual couples don't have children of their own because they think it's "icky" and that's why they want to adopt? Wow.Hannibał wrote: I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse.
Seems like you don't know any gay families. I do. I also know plenty of foster kids. The kids in the gay families do MUCH better.Hannibał wrote:
I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse. Think of being in school and things kids were bullied for, brands of cloths and such. Now imagine your dad came to school flamed out hand and hand with his wife Gary..
So, too, if every couple is infertile. I suppose you want those outlawed as well?Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
You are correct, I don't know any gay familys. I do however know some gay people, and went to school with more then a few and I know those kids got beat up on a consistant basis..however ignorant it was, and however blissfully ignorant to the awkward family life these kids raised in that scenerio they WILL have a horrible time in your average school/early life. Most of those bullied ended up being druggies or having other issues..PLAYER57832 wrote:Seems like you don't know any gay families. I do. I also know plenty of foster kids. The kids in the gay families do MUCH better.Hannibał wrote:
I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse. Think of being in school and things kids were bullied for, brands of cloths and such. Now imagine your dad came to school flamed out hand and hand with his wife Gary..
You're basically endorsing that intolerance by saying there should be fewer kids raised by gay parents for this reason. Instead what we need is to wholeheartedly endorse and recognize gay parents as not being deficient in child-rearing abilities, coupled with an aggressive plan to instruct kids in tolerance.Hannibał wrote: You are correct, I don't know any gay familys. I do however know some gay people, and went to school with more then a few and I know those kids got beat up on a consistant basis..however ignorant it was, and however blissfully ignorant to the awkward family life these kids raised in that scenerio they WILL have a horrible time in your average school/early life. Most of those bullied ended up being druggies or having other issues..
Not gonna happen. I ignored him and foed him for weeks, never responding. Yet, there he was, calling me names and insulting me and harassing me and basically stalking me.Hannibał wrote:First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
Outlawed? WTF are you talking about?PLAYER57832 wrote:So, too, if every couple is infertile. I suppose you want those outlawed as well?Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
You right, ignoring a problem dosent fix it. But I think maybe its too much change too fast. I think the young kids now, when they get older it will be easier to accept.. I know by the time I was exiting highschool in 04' there was a trend of gay being almost trendy, with every girl making out with each other after 1 beer, and every gay guy being all the rage with the same loose girls.Metsfanmax wrote:You're basically endorsing that intolerance by saying there should be fewer kids raised by gay parents for this reason. Instead what we need is to wholeheartedly endorse and recognize gay parents as not being deficient in child-rearing abilities, coupled with an aggressive plan to instruct kids in tolerance.Hannibał wrote: You are correct, I don't know any gay familys. I do however know some gay people, and went to school with more then a few and I know those kids got beat up on a consistant basis..however ignorant it was, and however blissfully ignorant to the awkward family life these kids raised in that scenerio they WILL have a horrible time in your average school/early life. Most of those bullied ended up being druggies or having other issues..
Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat

If everyone was gay and didn't get married, the population would be 0. I don't get what you're trying to say here.Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
Perhaps if you'd stop making moronic statements, this request of yours would take care of itself.Hannibał wrote:First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
Of course, that's the problem. It couldn't possibly be anything else!Phatscotty wrote:Not gonna happen. I ignored him and foed him for weeks, never responding. Yet, there he was, calling me names and insulting me and harassing me and basically stalking me.Hannibał wrote:First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
He's a jerk
What would be the difference between heterosexuality and polygamy?Woodruff wrote:There quite literally is NO difference in arguments between homosexuality and polygamy. Both SHOULD be legal in a free world, because both have the ability to consent involved.
But clearly if everyone was gay but unable to marry due to the Christian Lobby, the world would be saved. Thank god for the traditional marriage, otherwise everyone will instantly turn gay and marry the first same sex person they'll see. You're a real piece of work Scotty.Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
Well, you don't want homosexuals to marry because they cannot have kids, so you must not want infertile couples to marry, either.Phatscotty wrote:Outlawed? WTF are you talking about?PLAYER57832 wrote:So, too, if every couple is infertile. I suppose you want those outlawed as well?Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
Well right, if you include the term "consenting adults", that eliminates some or most of them, but my point is that I think the premise of the opening question is wrong in that it's not that anybody is saying that legalizing gay marriage will result in these things, they are just brought up to point out a flaw in the idea that marriage is whatever one wants to define it as. (Couldn't find a reasonable way to avoid ending with a preposition there.)Woodruff wrote:"Consent" doesn't apply to beastiality nor in most cases to incest.daddy1gringo wrote:Tgd has a point here. It's not that anybody is saying that those other things will inevitably follow. The point is that if you're going to say that marriage is whatever you want it to be, you've got to come up with a better argument because that includes these things and more.thegreekdog wrote:What fears specifically? The people that are against gay marriage are against gay marriage because they think it's immoral. I'm not sure they expected some sort of tangible negative result.Symmetry wrote:If you've had a kind of legalisation- have the fears come true? Are you now close to legalising animal abuse and incest? Have marriages been weakened?
also... while homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy in that they are not the same, the arguments against polygamy are quite similar to the arguments against homosexuality...
No, a lot of people very much claim homosexuality or legalizing homosexual marriages causes those other things.daddy1gringo wrote:Well right, if you include the term "consenting adults", that eliminates some or most of them, but my point is that I think the premise of the opening question is wrong in that it's not that anybody is saying that legalizing gay marriage will result in these things, they are just brought up to point out a flaw in the idea that marriage is whatever one wants to define it as. (Couldn't find a reasonable way to avoid ending with a preposition there.)Woodruff wrote:"Consent" doesn't apply to beastiality nor in most cases to incest.daddy1gringo wrote:Tgd has a point here. It's not that anybody is saying that those other things will inevitably follow. The point is that if you're going to say that marriage is whatever you want it to be, you've got to come up with a better argument because that includes these things and more.thegreekdog wrote:What fears specifically? The people that are against gay marriage are against gay marriage because they think it's immoral. I'm not sure they expected some sort of tangible negative result.Symmetry wrote:If you've had a kind of legalisation- have the fears come true? Are you now close to legalising animal abuse and incest? Have marriages been weakened?
also... while homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy in that they are not the same, the arguments against polygamy are quite similar to the arguments against homosexuality...
I don't.PLAYER57832 wrote:No, a lot of people very much claim homosexuality or legalizing homosexual marriages causes those other things.
No, but it is a common argument voiced in opposing homosexual marriages and unions, even today.daddy1gringo wrote:I don't.PLAYER57832 wrote:No, a lot of people very much claim homosexuality or legalizing homosexual marriages causes those other things.