Legend of Dragoon Mafia(Night 2-Master Down)

[edocsil]

Man I am starting to sweat I feel the heat in here

Yeah, you get hung for the little things D1...

[safariguy5]

Man I am starting to sweat I feel the heat in here

Yeah, you get hung for the little things D1...

And shameless bandwagonning is one of them.

[icedagger]

I don't really know how to defend myself at this point. I'm being voted variously for asking if a vote count was accurate and for trying to move the day forward. From the way its gained momentum almost entirely without substance I can only assume there's a scum presence on the wagon. I'd be very suprised if at least one of mob deadly and irish aren't mafia.

[zimmah]

if my count is correct icedagger is now at L-2.

maybe it's time for a roleclaim icedagger?

[chapcrap]

I don't really know how to defend myself at this point. I'm being voted variously for asking if a vote count was accurate and for trying to move the day forward. From the way its gained momentum almost entirely without substance I can only assume there's a scum presence on the wagon. I'd be very suprised if at least one of mob deadly and irish aren't mafia.

There's probably a scum presence on every wagon. Just saying. I also wouldn't be surprised if MoB was scum. Of course, I already said that.

I also of course said that this is Day 1 and any case will be weak. Roleclaim?

[edocsil]

He shouldn't MoB has been way scummier imo

[freezie]

He shouldn't MoB has been way scummier imo

QFT

Unvote

Vote: Mob

Relooking at everything, MoB gets my vote now. Although I'll keep ice in check.

[The Irish Tiger]

unvote icedagger

will vote mob later, but not sure if it will end the day so won't now.

[kratos644]

unvote icedagger

will vote mob later, but not sure if it will end the day so won't now.

Why are you switching your votes around so much. You had the OMGUS on ice dagger with the weak defence and now at the snap of a finger you switch your vote because someone said They're going to vote MOB instead because he looks scummier. At the same time you're holding off your vote so as to not officially be apart of the bandwagon yet. This all looks really scummy to me and it seems like you're looking for whatever the cool wagon to jump on is. As a result I'm going to have to Unvote Vote The Irish Tiger There have been no solid explanations on your votes thus far and you seem like you're eager to lynch whomever you can.

I do agree that MOB has seemed scummy at least scummier than ice dagger but my vote is going to be on Irish Tiger because he's jumping around far to much and just trying to blend in with the crowd.

[zimmah]

if icedagger is scum, edocsil will be high on my list of suspects as well. he's the first to try and turn around the bandwagon against him.

[chapcrap]

if icedagger is scum, edocsil will be high on my list of suspects as well. he's the first to try and turn around the bandwagon against him.

Of course I can't argue with this.

It seems to me that MoB Deadly and icedagger are the ones acting scummy. I know that Irish Tiger is being sketchy, but it seems like he's acting more like an inexperienced player than scum to me.

[edocsil]

if icedagger is scum, edocsil will be high on my list of suspects as well. he's the first to try and turn around the bandwagon against him.

Doesn't quite work like that. A rookie player will align themselves with a scummate sometimes but an experienced player won't, for this exact reason shown here.

Anyhow, Ice had a joke vote on him or two, freezie made a decent discussion starter and then all the noobz began looking for the rope. The case was not worthy of a hanging yet some people seemed quite ready to wagon for it. I was obligated to point that out as D2 we would have to waste our time interrogating those who were the worst offenders of the Ice wagon. Just trying to save myself some time and effort here, not cover for Ice.

[safariguy5]

if icedagger is scum, edocsil will be high on my list of suspects as well. he's the first to try and turn around the bandwagon against him.

Doesn't quite work like that. A rookie player will align themselves with a scummate sometimes but an experienced player won't, for this exact reason shown here.

Anyhow, Ice had a joke vote on him or two, freezie made a decent discussion starter and then all the noobz began looking for the rope. The case was not worthy of a hanging yet some people seemed quite ready to wagon for it. I was obligated to point that out as D2 we would have to waste our time interrogating those who were the worst offenders of the Ice wagon. Just trying to save myself some time and effort here, not cover for Ice.

I wasn't really into the case on icedagger as it seemed very forced to me. MoB is on my scumdar for bandwagonning, but Irish Tiger is still the scummiest to me for votehopping and bandwagonning on basically every case that seems to gain momentum. It looks to me like scum trying to get a quick lynch and go to night.

[The Irish Tiger]

look, i don't always give explanations for how i vote, its how i play, i watch, see that under questioning, or just made a post i find scummy and then vote for them.

also this is my first game here, so im not used to any of youse, so its hard for me to remember whos who and who said what.

vote mob deadly

pretty much for the exact reasons others voted for him.

[MoB Deadly]

WHAT

So... let me get this straight.... you vote ice dagger yesterday, and then some people call you out on joining BWs and you switch your vote to me with NO new evidence!?!?!?!?

This guy is obviously scum guys.... I know it does not clear me in any way for my actions, but seriously screw this guy

unvote vote irish tiger

[kratos644]

Let's see we have 12 in the game and tiger is at what 4 votes so L-3?
We're approaching that time where a role claim would be appropriate.

P.S. Can we get a prod on kwanton or a replacement? He hasn't said a single word.

[safariguy5]

look, i don't always give explanations for how i vote, its how i play, i watch, see that under questioning, or just made a post i find scummy and then vote for them.

also this is my first game here, so im not used to any of youse, so its hard for me to remember whos who and who said what.

vote mob deadly

pretty much for the exact reasons others voted for him.

So that's basically why we're voting you. You have to justify why you would vote someone. Voting someone without explanation is bandwagonning pure and simple. I'm going to go with Irish Tiger today as he seems to be deliberately playing the noob card as justification for his erratic voting patterns. I understand the nature of Day 1 requiring some bandwagonning, but you can't jump on every single wagon and expect that to go unnoticed.

[edocsil]

WHAT

So... let me get this straight.... you vote ice dagger yesterday, and then some people call you out on joining BWs and you switch your vote to me with NO new evidence!?!?!?!?

This guy is obviously scum guys.... I know it does not clear me in any way for my actions, but seriously screw this guy

unvote vote irish tiger

Again he is a rookie, he could be scum, he may not be. We may hang him yet but what he does I believe he does in ignorance. You on the other hand are slightly more subtle and I think far more likely to be scum. You are under pressure and are beginning to squirm, far more indicative of scum them simple ignorance and bandwagoning. If I had my way I would vig irish and hang you. In that vein Unvote Vote MoB

[zimmah]

WHAT

So... let me get this straight.... you vote ice dagger yesterday, and then some people call you out on joining BWs and you switch your vote to me with NO new evidence!?!?!?!?

This guy is obviously scum guys.... I know it does not clear me in any way for my actions, but seriously screw this guy

unvote vote irish tiger

Again he is a rookie, he could be scum, he may not be. We may hang him yet but what he does I believe he does in ignorance. You on the other hand are slightly more subtle and I think far more likely to be scum. You are under pressure and are beginning to squirm, far more indicative of scum them simple ignorance and bandwagoning. If I had my way I would vig irish and hang you. In that vein Unvote Vote MoB

funny, exactly what i tought of you after your last post, except in your case, one of what i believed to be your scum mate was under pressure, and you seemed to snap.

if i had my way, i'd lynch you.

[edocsil]

Sucks that your argument is complete WIFOM then, it is all based on the hypothetical hypothesis that ice is scum. My neck isn't going to be feeling the noose today.

Also, its scummy to ignore a direct attack from another player, if you don't say anything your words cannot be used against you. If you respond with sound logic against an attack you are building a profile for yourself for the current game. It constrains you, and that is something a scum has to worry about, it can ruin their anonymity, and that results in their death.

[zimmah]

Sucks that your argument is complete WIFOM then, it is all based on the hypothetical hypothesis that ice is scum. My neck isn't going to be feeling the noose today.

Also, its scummy to ignore a direct attack from another player, if you don't say anything your words cannot be used against you. If you respond with sound logic against an attack you are building a profile for yourself for the current game. It constrains you, and that is something a scum has to worry about, it can ruin their anonymity, and that results in their death.

why so much drama, if you're really inncocent, you wouldn't care as much

unvote vote edocsil

quite sure he's scum

[edocsil]

Sucks that your argument is complete WIFOM then, it is all based on the hypothetical hypothesis that ice is scum. My neck isn't going to be feeling the noose today.

Also, its scummy to ignore a direct attack from another player, if you don't say anything your words cannot be used against you. If you respond with sound logic against an attack you are building a profile for yourself for the current game. It constrains you, and that is something a scum has to worry about, it can ruin their anonymity, and that results in their death.

why so much drama, if you're really inncocent, you wouldn't care as much

unvote vote edocsil

quite sure he's scum

Oh GFY, you have no idea what you are doing.

[safariguy5]

Sucks that your argument is complete WIFOM then, it is all based on the hypothetical hypothesis that ice is scum. My neck isn't going to be feeling the noose today.

Also, its scummy to ignore a direct attack from another player, if you don't say anything your words cannot be used against you. If you respond with sound logic against an attack you are building a profile for yourself for the current game. It constrains you, and that is something a scum has to worry about, it can ruin their anonymity, and that results in their death.

why so much drama, if you're really inncocent, you wouldn't care as much

unvote vote edocsil

quite sure he's scum

Also a WIFOM statement, mafia could easily defeat this "tell" by not caring when pressured. Let's focus on the two cases at hand, we have either MoB or Irish Tiger, and there's a decent amount of pressure on both. I'd like to see a vote count before I decide if I want to switch my vote, but I'm fine with getting claim out of either player.

[zimmah]

Sucks that your argument is complete WIFOM then, it is all based on the hypothetical hypothesis that ice is scum. My neck isn't going to be feeling the noose today.

Also, its scummy to ignore a direct attack from another player, if you don't say anything your words cannot be used against you. If you respond with sound logic against an attack you are building a profile for yourself for the current game. It constrains you, and that is something a scum has to worry about, it can ruin their anonymity, and that results in their death.

why so much drama, if you're really inncocent, you wouldn't care as much

unvote vote edocsil

quite sure he's scum

Also a WIFOM statement, mafia could easily defeat this "tell" by not caring when pressured. Let's focus on the two cases at hand, we have either MoB or Irish Tiger, and there's a decent amount of pressure on both. I'd like to see a vote count before I decide if I want to switch my vote, but I'm fine with getting claim out of either player.

we had ice at L-2 and we all just switched votes because edoc sais so, and you're all just going to belief he's not protecting his mate, and bandwagon 2 guys who have nothing to do with all of this?

right

[edocsil]

Sucks that your argument is complete WIFOM then, it is all based on the hypothetical hypothesis that ice is scum. My neck isn't going to be feeling the noose today.

Also, its scummy to ignore a direct attack from another player, if you don't say anything your words cannot be used against you. If you respond with sound logic against an attack you are building a profile for yourself for the current game. It constrains you, and that is something a scum has to worry about, it can ruin their anonymity, and that results in their death.

why so much drama, if you're really inncocent, you wouldn't care as much

unvote vote edocsil

quite sure he's scum

Also a WIFOM statement, mafia could easily defeat this "tell" by not caring when pressured. Let's focus on the two cases at hand, we have either MoB or Irish Tiger, and there's a decent amount of pressure on both. I'd like to see a vote count before I decide if I want to switch my vote, but I'm fine with getting claim out of either player.

we had ice at L-2 and we all just switched votes because edoc sais so, and you're all just going to belief he's not protecting his mate, and bandwagon 2 guys who have nothing to do with all of this?

right

Oh come on.

7 to lynch 5 voted for Ice chapcrap, irishtiger, freezie, zimmah and MoB. Freezie's was legit, Chap's wasn't bad and he was the first to vote. You Irish and MoB were all shamelessly bandwagoning. The idea isn't just to go force people to claim, the idea is to hang scum. Perhaps if nothing else had showed up we would have defaulted to him, but fortunately for Ice you three have flopped your vote all over the place. In the last 3 pages how many people have you three voted for in seriousness? Not quite certain, but I think it is at least 3 people for all of you, if not more.