Mississippi challenges Roe VS Wade, loves God

[Lootifer]

Night Strike I dont notice you being so self righteous when millions of African children die because of Corporate greed , or Palestinian children die because of political handwringing , or Iraqi children die to line the pockets of Dick Cheyney's cronies. These are human beings in the real sense , not just a collection of cells, stop the hypocritical quasi moralistic humbugging and try to at least pretend to exercise some Christian compassion.

This.

You can be pro-life, but you best be working your ASS OFF trying to save every human being you can, starting with the worst off first. Some how I suspect NS isn't doing that...

[keiths31]

Okay Metsfanmax...you said

To me it does. If you want kids, then you should remove the birth control. The conscious decision to remain on birth control would signify to me that you don't really want kids now, even if you would keep one in the event of pregnancy.

In reply to my comment about wanting to have kids and planning on having kids. But then you go on to say...

No, because I might want kids later on, I just don't want them now.

This was in reply to me saying if you want 100% then get a vasectomy. What is the difference?

[Symmetry]

Okay Metsfanmax...you said

To me it does. If you want kids, then you should remove the birth control. The conscious decision to remain on birth control would signify to me that you don't really want kids now, even if you would keep one in the event of pregnancy.

In reply to my comment about wanting to have kids and planning on having kids. But then you go on to say...

No, because I might want kids later on, I just don't want them now.

This was in reply to me saying if you want 100% then get a vasectomy. What is the difference?

Probably what he said about not wanting them now, but maybe wanting a kid in the future, no? Either that or you need to explain a bit more of your point.

[keiths31]

Okay Metsfanmax...you said

To me it does. If you want kids, then you should remove the birth control. The conscious decision to remain on birth control would signify to me that you don't really want kids now, even if you would keep one in the event of pregnancy.

In reply to my comment about wanting to have kids and planning on having kids. But then you go on to say...

No, because I might want kids later on, I just don't want them now.

This was in reply to me saying if you want 100% then get a vasectomy. What is the difference?

Probably what he said about not wanting them now, but maybe wanting a kid in the future, no? Either that or you need to explain a bit more of your point.

He replied to my comment that my first child was unplanned, but not unwanted. My partner was on birth control because we weren't planning on having kids at that time. He stated that because we wanted to have kids (at some point) that she shouldn't have been on birth control. But when I suggested he get a vasectomy if he wanted 100% guarantee he wouldn't father a child when he wasn't ready, he replied no, because he might want them someday. I fail to see the difference.

[Aradhus]

What this debate really needs is a third position. Pro life, pro choice, may I introduce you to your new sparring partner 'no choice'. The position is this, whenever a women gets pregnant we instabort. No screwing around. Any means necessary. We'll let this stupid little species do the only honorable thing and die off, leaving the universe to do its sweet sexy thing without having us cataloguing everything and just being a general nuisance.

[AndyDufresne]

What this debate really needs is a third position. Pro life, pro choice, may I introduce you to your new sparring partner 'no choice'. The position is this, whenever a women gets pregnant we instabort. No screwing around. Any means necessary. We'll let this stupid little species do the only honorable thing and die off, leaving the universe to do its sweet sexy thing without having us cataloguing everything and just being a general nuisance.

http://www.vhemt.org/ Voluntary Human Extinction Movement


--Andy

[Army of GOD]

What this debate really needs is a third position. Pro life, pro choice, may I introduce you to your new sparring partner 'no choice'. The position is this, whenever a women gets pregnant we instabort. No screwing around. Any means necessary. We'll let this stupid little species do the only honorable thing and die off, leaving the universe to do its sweet sexy thing without having us cataloguing everything and just being a general nuisance.

I am for this.

ALL OF YOU PEOPLE ARE IMMORAL. WE MUST KILL ALL FETUSES.

[jay_a2j]

#1 Who the hell cares????? Has an abortion ever SAVED A LIFE? Ever STARTED a stopped heart? Are Doctors not required to take an oath to SAVE lives? Not end them!

Abortions have saved lives, of course. I fail to see how they have not.

Abortion takes a life EACH and EVERY time it's performed. Do you FAIL TO SEE IT NOW???????????

It's pretty much impossible, given your experience on these threads, and even within this thread, to see your reply as anything other than trolling. Even a basic awareness of the other side would have acquainted you with the arguments in favour of abortions when it would save a woman's life, and reading through the thread, you might well have gained some nuance and realised that abortions are not always of living fetuses.

I have, perhaps, asked too much of you. I'm confused as to why you deleted the part of your argument I was replying to. I have restored it so that we can all appreciate the full argument.

Needless to say, you come across as a bit of a dick.

Someone PLEASE post the stats on the % of abortions that are performed to "save the life of the mother"! You dolt! It's like less than 1%! So much for that theory. Try again.



If standing up for what's right makes me a "dick", than I'm a dick.

[jay_a2j]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

[AndyDufresne]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

ABSOLUT

Right or Wrong?


--Andy

[BigBallinStalin]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

Is Heaven a DEMOCRACY?

[PLAYER57832]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

I see, so according to you, letting the dead child remain, with potential complications to me that would hav made it impossible for me to have the 2 kids I have now... that is the reasonable and Christ-like decision?

Sorry, the problem here is not that I am unfamiliar with the Bible.

[Night Strike]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

I see, so according to you, letting the dead child remain, with potential complications to me that would hav made it impossible for me to have the 2 kids I have now... that is the reasonable and Christ-like decision?

Sorry, the problem here is not that I am unfamiliar with the Bible.

No one but you thinks that this is what the debate is about.

[PLAYER57832]

Someone PLEASE post the stats on the % of abortions that are performed to "save the life of the mother"! You dolt! It's like less than 1%! So much for that theory. Try again.

Yes,the number of abortions to save a mother's immediate life are rare, but you ignore why. First, because things like ectopic pregnacies are often terminated before it gets into that life and death crisis, becuase that crisis point is so very, very dangerous.

Also, its not just the life of the mother, its the life of future children, the ability of the mother to have future children. Those make a far greater number.

If standing up for what's right makes me a "dick", than I'm a dick.

IF that were what you were doing. Sadly, you only believe so because you refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with your narrow viewpoint.

[PLAYER57832]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

I see, so according to you, letting the dead child remain, with potential complications to me that would hav made it impossible for me to have the 2 kids I have now... that is the reasonable and Christ-like decision?

Sorry, the problem here is not that I am unfamiliar with the Bible.

No one but you thinks that this is what the debate is about.

#1 Read jay's post. he already called me a murderer for just that.

#2 it IS part of what the debate is about!

[jay_a2j]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

I see, so according to you, letting the dead child remain, with potential complications to me that would hav made it impossible for me to have the 2 kids I have now... that is the reasonable and Christ-like decision?

Sorry, the problem here is not that I am unfamiliar with the Bible.

If the child is ALREADY dead, that is a TOTALLY different topic (Go start a thread) what I am referring to is the % of abortions performed, < 1% are to "save the mother's life". The other 99.?% is for convenience of the mother. Removing a dead child is not taking a life now is it?

[jay_a2j]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

I see, so according to you, letting the dead child remain, with potential complications to me that would hav made it impossible for me to have the 2 kids I have now... that is the reasonable and Christ-like decision?

Sorry, the problem here is not that I am unfamiliar with the Bible.

No one but you thinks that this is what the debate is about.

#1 Read jay's post. he already called me a murderer for just that.

#2 it IS part of what the debate is about!

#1 No, if you actually READ it, I said that YOU condone murder, being you are pro-choice (man I hate even typing that idiotic term)

[PLAYER57832]

#1 No, if you actually READ it, I said that YOU condone murder, being you are pro-choice (man I hate even typing that idiotic term)

Nope. Maybe you did not intend to say what you did, but the example I gave was that I had a miscarriage removed surgically on my doctor's advice becuase there was less chance of a major problem. Your response was could I restart a heart?

In fact, I can and have.. but even in adults CPR is rarely effective.

And I am pro LIFE, but not all life is intended by God to survive. Except, you have no problem intervening when the outcome is what you seem to want.. its only if other people decide differently you object.

[Aradhus]

You don't care what other people think, but they are supposed to run their lives by YOUR dictates?

No, silly liberal. I believe in ABSOLUTE right and wrong! Who decides such things? Well, GOD of course. Do you think Heaven is a DEMOCRACY
????????? Maybe if you spent less time breathing and more time LOOKING at scripture you'd know this. /angry rant

I see, so according to you, letting the dead child remain, with potential complications to me that would hav made it impossible for me to have the 2 kids I have now... that is the reasonable and Christ-like decision?

Sorry, the problem here is not that I am unfamiliar with the Bible.

No one but you thinks that this is what the debate is about.

This topic is about the moral brigade and the unfeeling pragmatists oiling up and having a big ol' wrassle, innit.

[Juan_Bottom]

If God makes the law, then let him enforce it.

????

[Aradhus]

If God makes the law, then let him enforce it.

????

Piledriver off the top rope!!

Can the moral brigade recover in time to tag in fresher team members? Tune in next time to find out on the ongoing 2011 abortion heat tour.

[natty dread]

I've always secretly suspected jay_a2j to be a brilliant parodist... he's actually a liberal who just pretends to be a right wing nutcase to make their arguments look ridiculous.

[jay_a2j]

If God makes the law, then let him enforce it.

????

In time. Right now we are living the way we choose to live.(free will) But do not be deceived, what we do in this life, we will answer for in the next.



If I'm swimming in the Atlantic Ocean and see a school of sharks and get out of the water, should I say anything to you as you pass me on the beach to go into the same water? Or should I let "God enforce it"?

[KoolBak]

Lmao......love it!

Hey Jay....how many kids will you personally commit to adopt of druggie mothers that dont have a chance in hell of raising a child or possibly even giving birth to a healthy one?

You bettah buy a bigger house! Or maybe they could just live in that prison......

[jay_a2j]

Lmao......love it!

Hey Jay....how many kids will you personally commit to adopt of druggie mothers that dont have a chance in hell of raising a child or possibly even giving birth to a healthy one?

You bettah buy a bigger house! Or maybe they could just live in that prison......

Kool!


Yeah because we all know that those kids would be better off dead. Sorry, but the arguments that "they will be abused", "they won't be loved" etc. just don't hold water. Because even those things are better than being dead.