Is CC the BEST out there?

jgordon1111 · Post by **jgordon1111** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:30 pm

Beer go post in those sites for them to come play on cc for an better gaming experience,where the maps they are currently playing on were created

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:32 pm

Robinette wrote:1st...
it amazes me that owen, who often is the mods favorite whipping boy, it the strongest defender of CC.
owenshooter wrote:why would CC be involved in a tournament with 2 other sites that are nowhere near the caliber of CC? it would be acknowledging them as somewhat "equal" and/or "relevant"... and guess what? neither are ..... nobody here would bother to look at either of those garbage sites.... i am one of CC's biggest critics, and realize how superior CC is to both of those sites.... bye!!-el Jesus negro

Oh, come on now, Robinette! Owen is no one's whipping boy.

And besides, TeamCC already has a whipping boy.

-This Guy

beertop · Post by **beertop** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:59 pm

owenshooter wrote:that was a horrible comparison, because apple doesn't "do" consumer shows where all the PC peeps roll their products out. apple lets journalist, industry writers, etc get a preview of their products. in other words, you want to see an apple product, you either buy it onlone or to to an apple dealer and check it out. try again, and next time us a real world analogy that is actually accurate...-el Jesus negro
beertop wrote:
Robinette wrote: 5th...
if i were lack, and owned the dominate site, i would not be at all interested in exposing my customers to a multi-site tournament. I would instead focus on keeping my customers happy, and quickly add any sexy enhancements that my recon teams found at other sites, in addition to adding even more innovative enhancements.

Actually, I think that the opposite should be true...if my site is the best, I would not be afraid of exposing my customers to a multi-site tournament. It would automatically:
-show/reinforce to my customers that my site is the best
-expose my site to a "interested" audience, some/many of whom will see what they have been missing and switch.

Lets use Apple, Google & Blackberry as an example. And in this case lets say Apple is the best. At a convention, as Apple, would you prefer to concentrate your efforts in a room of general population, where only some might be interested in an iPad or would you prefer to be in a room comparing the iPad to Android and Playbook to those who have tablets or are serious about them? I think the other 2 have more to lose than CC. Landgrab mostly, since MC are mostly ex-CC.

Anyone with half a brain would understand that marketing to an audience that is already interested produces more results than marketing to the general population. But you choose to focus on the analogy rather than the message... I guess you need the perfect analogy to understand the message....

beertop · Post by **beertop** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:07 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:Beer go post in those sites for them to come play on cc for an better gaming experience,where the maps they are currently playing on were created

It looks like they have one of their members ready & willing to get their guys to participate...as do MC. I just came across the thread in the tournament forum, saw little response & thought I'd bring it up in a more active forum....I dont know what they're proposing, but I'm sure that they intend the games to be played on all sites.

owenshooter · Post by **owenshooter** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:08 pm

beertop wrote:Anyone with half a brain would understand that marketing to an audience that is already interested produces more results than marketing to the general population. But you choose to focus on the analogy rather than the message... I guess you need the perfect analogy to understand the message....

no, i think anyone with a 1/4 brain would use a proper analogy and/or say what they mean... apple does not go to tech shows with the rest of the pc world... so if you are comparing CC to apple, then why would CC want to play in that tournament... i can only read what you write, not what is going on in your head while you write something completely unrelated...-el Jesus negro

greenoaks · Post by **greenoaks** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:38 pm

beertop wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Beer go post in those sites for them to come play on cc for an better gaming experience,where the maps they are currently playing on were created
It looks like they have one of their members ready & willing to get their guys to participate...as do MC. I just came across the thread in the tournament forum, saw little response & thought I'd bring it up in a more active forum....I dont know what they're proposing, but I'm sure that they intend the games to be played on all sites.

we don't give a shit about those other sites & we have nothing to prove

i hope that is clear enough for you.

owenshooter · Post by **owenshooter** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:05 pm

oh boy, you are really whipping us into a frenzy over here!!! let me translate, "nobody cares."-el Jesus negro

beertop wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Beer go post in those sites for them to come play on cc for an better gaming experience,where the maps they are currently playing on were created
It looks like they have one of their members ready & willing to get their guys to participate...as do MC. I just came across the thread in the tournament forum, saw little response & thought I'd bring it up in a more active forum....I dont know what they're proposing, but I'm sure that they intend the games to be played on all sites.

Geger · Post by **Geger** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:32 am

beertop wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Beer go post in those sites for them to come play on cc for an better gaming experience,where the maps they are currently playing on were created
It looks like they have one of their members ready & willing to get their guys to participate...as do MC. I just came across the thread in the tournament forum, saw little response & thought I'd bring it up in a more active forum....I dont know what they're proposing, but I'm sure that they intend the games to be played on all sites.

Why can't you accept, that nobody here want to play in other sites!!

1 easy reason (as you can read from previous posts) : the maps

grifftron · Post by **grifftron** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:12 am

Well, if you ever have a map idea that fails here, you know where you can go to play it!

And the only reason Lucus has not sued them for the star wars map is they have nothing to sue

Post by **TeeGee** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:38 am

How do these other sites survive??

CC: WHO IS ONLINE
In total there are 475 users online :: 336 registered, 44 hidden and 95 guests

MC:Currently Active Users
There are currently 2 users online. 0 members and 2 guests

LG:
LandGrab is currently unavailable due to scheduled database backups.

I can see why they would want access to the CC members

sherkaner · Post by **sherkaner** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:45 am

Landgrab:
I like the map finder and the fact that you can click the whole continent.
I dislike the way to find (available) games, not having all the info on screen when playing and the average map quality.

MajorCommand:
I like the clean interface at most pages, and I think it has a good (though small) community.
I dislike the map variety, not having all the info on one screen and the loading time when entering a game (flash..), and it will probably be hard to play it from my phone.

This site:
I like the page loading speeds, having all the info on one screen, the quality and variety of the maps and the big community.
I dislike finding playable games, farming mentality of some players and right-wing sympathies of a lot of players (on the forums) here.

To be honest, for me this site is still way ahead of the others (especially when it comes to the core activity, actually playing) and I find it hard to name my dislikes. So for me, this site is by far the best.

sherkaner · Post by **sherkaner** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:43 am

ow wait, that wasn't ment as flaming, just why would you go to other sites to play there, even if it's a tournament? I won't stop anyone, but it just doesn't look that interesting to me.

owenshooter · Post by **owenshooter** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:27 am

since when is stating your opinion flaming? oh yeah, i forgot the new "everything is trolling/flaming if i don't agree with you and/or you hurt my feelings"... just keep your posts under 6 for 16 hours, and you should be ok... nice post...-el Jesus negro

sherkaner wrote:ow wait, that wasn't ment as flaming, just why would you go to other sites to play there, even if it's a tournament? I won't stop anyone, but it just doesn't look that interesting to me.

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:04 pm

Yeah, nothing wrong with that, sherkaner

-Sully

angola · Post by **angola** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:46 pm

Why isn't Grand Strategy invited?

Come on all you Grand Strategy alums, unite!

malevolous · Post by **malevolous** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:56 pm

angola wrote:Why isn't Grand Strategy invited?

Come on all you Grand Strategy alums, unite!

Or Strategy Game Network? Seriously, it sounds intriguing, but I don't see how you would organize it. I mean, what would make it the "best?" a bunch of 1v1 games, or a clan war format? Maybe a mix? Chained, unlimited, adjacent? Fog? Spoils? Maps with bombardments even? To different people, different parts of the game are most important or require the most skill, and I just don't think its feasible to unite 3+ sites on the terms when even on one site there is such diversity. You can't get everyone behind it, so it won't work, even if it is a nice idea. If they want to judge themselves against CC players, they can join and try to win the TPA, or start a clan and try for the CCup or Clan League title.

QoH · Post by **QoH** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:09 pm

malevolous wrote:
angola wrote:Why isn't Grand Strategy invited?

Come on all you Grand Strategy alums, unite!
Or Strategy Game Network? Seriously, it sounds intriguing, but I don't see how you would organize it. I mean, what would make it the "best?" a bunch of 1v1 games, or a clan war format? Maybe a mix? Chained, unlimited, adjacent? Fog? Spoils? Maps with bombardments even? To different people, different parts of the game are most important or require the most skill, and I just don't think its feasible to unite 3+ sites on the terms when even on one site there is such diversity. You can't get everyone behind it, so it won't work, even if it is a nice idea. If they want to judge themselves against CC players, they can join and try to win the TPA, or start a clan and try for the CCup or Clan League title.

This +1

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:44 am

TeeGee wrote:How do these other sites survive??

CC: WHO IS ONLINE
In total there are 475 users online :: 336 registered, 44 hidden and 95 guests

MC:Currently Active Users
There are currently 2 users online. 0 members and 2 guests

LG:
LandGrab is currently unavailable due to scheduled database backups.

I can see why they would want access to the CC members

Perhaps the relevant CC stat is..

"Most users ever online was 1533 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:45 pm"

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:39 pm

mibi wrote:
TeeGee wrote:How do these other sites survive??

CC: WHO IS ONLINE
In total there are 475 users online :: 336 registered, 44 hidden and 95 guests

MC:Currently Active Users
There are currently 2 users online. 0 members and 2 guests

LG:
LandGrab is currently unavailable due to scheduled database backups.

I can see why they would want access to the CC members
Perhaps the relevant CC stat is..

"Most users ever online was 1533 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:45 pm"

Haha, Mr. Badorties

-Sully

HighlanderAttack · Post by **HighlanderAttack** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:02 pm

Did I hear someone say tournament?

oh landgrab

no thanks

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:30 pm

mibi wrote:
TeeGee wrote:How do these other sites survive??

CC: WHO IS ONLINE
In total there are 475 users online :: 336 registered, 44 hidden and 95 guests

MC:Currently Active Users
There are currently 2 users online. 0 members and 2 guests

LG:
LandGrab is currently unavailable due to scheduled database backups.

I can see why they would want access to the CC members
Perhaps the relevant CC stat is..

"Most users ever online was 1533 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:45 pm"

With all due respect bado...what is your projected date for 1533 users at one time?

I like majcom for the different options not to mention holding the number one spot for months

the same way Ive liked all the sites for some different types of gameplay

But one thing I can say about the owner of this site, is even in private, he never talks badly about other sites no matter how small or pathetic. Hes genuinely a good guy, and just does his thing and probably has the utmost respect for those who do things differently.

Personally, I think it reeks of jealousy when I see such posts by you, and I know in 5 years Ive never seen anything posted by lackattack with the same air. I think its the one lesson other sites can learn from CC above all, and after playing on most of them, Id have to say its the one lesson they all seem to miss the most frequently.

It just comes off as so unprofessional that it has to portray that image in the eyes of people considering it.

I believe your most telling characteristic was when you called the community of CC a "ferile" group and that you planned to "control" your group of players much better. Well, it will be interesting to see if that can be done if you are planning on breaking the massive numbers of players, and simultaneously "controlling" the community. Very interesting indeed.

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:34 pm

Personally, I dont think a real tourney could ever happen, for the simple fact that the freestyle option on CC is the most difficult in the world In my opinion, and I dont think outsiders could ever master it, so in a very real way, any tourney, would not be a real one.

At one point I very seriously considered running up the score on all of the sites, but at that same point, I very seriously considered backing away from all of them, which is exactly what I did....who knows though...maybe someday.

grifftron · Post by **grifftron** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:35 am

Land grab actually isn't that bad of a site, beside it being slow as hell... its got 2 min speeders (free for even freemiums)... you get coins for winning games, and eventually can use these coins to buy free premium instead of using cash... they have premium that you can buy for life for $60... they also have the 1 year premium for $20... that would be cool to get lifetime premium here for $50-$60. Plus the site is pretty up to date graphic wise on homepage and what not, although most maps are childish graphics, but there are a select few that are pretty decent graphic wise.

I played 5 games there already (all 2 min speeders) and won all 5... bad thing about the site is it seems like the players are noobs, if we did have a tourney with this site, they would be destroyed and all their players would come to learn how to play here before going back home.

-griff

BadgerJelly · Post by **BadgerJelly** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:48 pm

I didnt start this thread but would like to say I think it would be good to have a little tourney.

Simply have members here play at LG and members at LG play here and involve any others sites we can too.

What do you say? Would be an education for all of us.

BadgerJelly · Post by **BadgerJelly** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:54 pm

grifftron wrote:Land grab actually isn't that bad of a site, beside it being slow as hell... its got 2 min speeders (free for even freemiums)... you get coins for winning games, and eventually can use these coins to buy free premium instead of using cash... they have premium that you can buy for life for $60... they also have the 1 year premium for $20... that would be cool to get lifetime premium here for $50-$60. Plus the site is pretty up to date graphic wise on homepage and what not, although most maps are childish graphics, but there are a select few that are pretty decent graphic wise.

I played 5 games there already (all 2 min speeders) and won all 5... bad thing about the site is it seems like the players are noobs, if we did have a tourney with this site, they would be destroyed and all their players would come to learn how to play here before going back home.

-griff

Noobs play RT games because they are free. Talking VERY generally I would say the majority of better players play long term games on 24, 36, 48 hour timers or some play longer.

Like I've said I'm up for a friendly competition and looking around some sites.
Tournaments are what I live for!

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