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Oh come the f*ck on. As I already said in this thread, I went a year as a freemium and I didn't notice anything. Ask the freemium members who are the top of the scoreboard. God damn, I seriously hope you're trolling because it'd suck if you were truly this stupid.Condestável wrote:Yes, I think he has a list of thousands of people under his pillow. A black list that he exhaustively reviews every night.
It's logically much easier than having the game system to regularly favour premium players group as whole, isn't it?
You know, there's life beyond this site. And common sense.
The website is not conspiring, it's a business.Army of GOD wrote:Oh come the f*ck on. As I already said in this thread, I went a year as a freemium and I didn't notice anything. Ask the freemium members who are the top of the scoreboard. God damn, I seriously hope you're trolling because it'd suck if you were truly this stupid.Condestável wrote:Yes, I think he has a list of thousands of people under his pillow. A black list that he exhaustively reviews every night.
It's logically much easier than having the game system to regularly favour premium players group as whole, isn't it?
You know, there's life beyond this site. And common sense.
Oh, and you preach to me about 'a life beyond this site', yet you're the one who thinks a website is conspiring to give you poor dice.
Oh please, please don't try to make yourself out to be some kind of revolutionary hero who is just trying to expose the grand scheme of The Man. That's how conspiracy theorists start their career, you know.Condestável wrote:As you can notice it's always a minority who scold, troll and try to make fun of people who pose controversial questions.

Condestável wrote:Actually, Natty, you look more like a zealot

No it hasn't.Condestável wrote:Conspiracism has been a useful scapegoat for zealots


It doesn't mean anything, last 25 battles is a too small sample size to have any significance. At most, it means that there's a normal amount of variation in the random numbers.codierose wrote:my dice are normally bad
been looking at my dice stats for the last 25 battles
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -11% 12 16 -16% 7 7 0 0 +42% 1 0 0 0 -42% 0 1
Defend -2% 15 19 -11% 3 10 -11% 1 1 +58% 1 0 0 0 +8% 2 1
Total -6% 27 35 -14% 10 17 -11% 1 1 +50% 2 0 0 0 -4% 2 2
my question is because i havent got a clue what this means my dice seem better 2v1 what is 2v1?

You do have to factor in the difficulty for a Freemium (without ever having premium) to reach the upper echelons of the scoreboard---in general it is hard to or takes longer, because of the 4 game limit. When you have unlimited games, it is easier to compensate for any losses by having more games with wins. When you have 4 games going at a time, it is harder to do. But it isn't impossible either. I think Reto Vögeli -- 3720, has never been a Premium before.Condestável wrote: The website is not conspiring, it's a business.
Freemiums that reach top without any premium account in the past are extremely rare. You say you don't notice any difference, other premium told me otherwise.

I think I agree with you about the bold part :Condestável wrote: I don't have any doubts that CC uses a stupid system which is proven to be far from real... specially regarding freemiums.
Hehe. You did play ~184 speed games as a Premium, which no doubt can contribute to large swings in points over a shorter period of time than 4 standard games at a time as a Freemium!Geger wrote:Dice Conspiracy : freemium vs premium!! Hm... I have something (maybe this sample is too small, but who knows)
@Condestavel : If AoG went a year as freemium, I went 6 months as premium (not a year, because had to leave this site because RL).
And like AoG said, I didn't notice any difference either between freemium and premium. I can't check my dice stats as fremium and as premium, but with Map Ranks I found something interesting :
September 2008 - January 2009 (4 months) as freemium I gained +944 points
January 2009 - July 2009 (6 months) as premium I gained + 186 points
September 2011 - now (3 months) as freemium I gained + 262 points
Condestável wrote:I have a good series of screenshots, though I have not patience for this fight.canadian bacon wrote:Condestável wrote:
PLEASE keep posting rolls, I just ask you don't cherry pick the ones that are favorable to your argument.....Please keep a list of your rolls and when it gets sufficiently long post it here..... I would LOVE to see it.
Check for an instance my last 25 rolls against Red Army!, I would also tell you to check against xcoobyx and many others, but these stats seem to be ephemeral. Should have kept my own.
Battles against neutrals in games against premiums is yet another wall. In Antarctica for example I tried 2 different approaches. No matter how I play, the opponent number of troops will always catch up mine even before we engage in battle. I can't simply advance through neutrals like they do, no matter it's 5vs2 or 10vs2.
Then again, as I told, I have made my mind about this and won't take part of internet squabbles. There will always be a lobby committed to attack any person who raises doubts.
Because you are a premium. About 6 hours ago a freemium killed a stack with 28 troops and lost only 6 troops (Game 10267258). Just another proof of my theorychevy1269 wrote:Streaky Dice lol just plan unbelievable bad dice 31 to 6 and loose 15 to 3 and come out with 2 left I can not believe the dice rolls I have been getting and neither can my partners. In one game it took me 7 times with 6 men each time to defeat 2 nuetrals so its not only against other players. One double game i just deployed on my partners spots where he needed cause my dice rolls where so bad. This site is getting very discouraging to play. you can only loose so much and then you dont want to be part of it anymore.
well, it's most similar to equalizer but still not exactly. he doesn't want the dice to be 'equal' he wants the dice to be less streaky, i'd say make a new category:Army of GOD wrote:No, he hasn't posted any stats. Just "REAL DICE ARE BETTER".BigBallinStalin wrote:OH! OH! This guy belongs in the Nutty Professor category of dice complainers, correct???Condestável wrote:Sorry, Natty, but I've played much more games in real life than here. I play here because the maps you draw are beautiful. Hands down.
The upset its that this randomizer does not give you a taste of reality. At the end of the day the average is 3.50 but it is too streaky and favours people who play tens of games.
Anyway, my rank is not bad for 80 normal games.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 8#p3144448
Definitely an Equalizer.
Dunno. 2.5 - 3%?RADAGA wrote:Christmas gift
CombatFigye: 254 - vs - Lof: 45
CombatFigye: 112 - vs - Lof: 46
CombatFigye: 312 - vs - Lof: 35
what a way to start a game...... odds for a double miss, three times in a row? HO HO HO
zimmah wrote:well, it's most similar to equalizer but still not exactly. he doesn't want the dice to be 'equal' he wants the dice to be less streaky, i'd say make a new category:Army of GOD wrote:No, he hasn't posted any stats. Just "REAL DICE ARE BETTER".BigBallinStalin wrote:OH! OH! This guy belongs in the Nutty Professor category of dice complainers, correct???Condestável wrote:Sorry, Natty, but I've played much more games in real life than here. I play here because the maps you draw are beautiful. Hands down.
The upset its that this randomizer does not give you a taste of reality. At the end of the day the average is 3.50 but it is too streaky and favours people who play tens of games.
Anyway, my rank is not bad for 80 normal games.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 8#p3144448
Definitely an Equalizer.
"Retro" Complainers.
Complain that real dice are better then digital dice for whatever reasons.