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edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:07 am

Most of that seems to be either broken english, not scummy or just bad logic. As far as defense of JG, I do not hold that against you in the slightest. It isn't you he is going to vig.

Leehar · Post by **Leehar** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:31 am

Vote Edoc
Cause I go with the underdogs, and goodness is relative!

jgordon1111 · Post by **jgordon1111** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:47 am

Edoc you have no Idea of who I was thinking of vigging,and still havent made up my mind if I survived if I would do it. apparantley you dont read well or understand what is written for you several times.

BGtheBrain · Post by **BGtheBrain** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:46 am

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:41 am

Leehar wrote:Vote Edoc
Cause I go with the underdogs, and goodness is relative!

This is just getting insane.

skillfusniper33 · Post by **skillfusniper33** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:11 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:Edoc you have no Idea of who I was thinking of vigging,and still havent made up my mind if I survived if I would do it. apparantley you dont read well or understand what is written for you several times.

... Are you forgetful or something. You have said 5 or 6 times how you are going to vig either edoc, or BG during the night phase....

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:09 pm

skillfusniper33 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Edoc you have no Idea of who I was thinking of vigging,and still havent made up my mind if I survived if I would do it. apparantley you dont read well or understand what is written for you several times.
... Are you forgetful or something. You have said 5 or 6 times how you are going to vig either edoc, or BG during the night phase....

And that everyone should should gangbang me when you flip town. Loosely quoted.

jgordon1111 · Post by **jgordon1111** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:12 pm

And skillful I also told sg7 that both of them were off my list pg.25, and thats because the person I considered probably scum finally started talking,then went silent for a bit again so, Once again I had to get Both Edoc and BG back to me and the original fight restarted.Waiting for someone that only jumps in when it seems I am not going to be lynched. And again caught hell because I am playing a little different than normal. But I say this with as much conviction as possible on the internet. Edoc nor BG are targets of mine,no matter what I have said to get what I thought was the real scum to say something.

safariguy5 · Post by **safariguy5** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:16 pm

nàme wrote:
nàme wrote: he seems to take an immense amount of offense from any attack from him, always tries to throw multiple cases on the table as long as it is not himself, he makes sure he doesnt insult anyone with power, and everytime someone is getting close to being lynched he pushes even harder. maybe it is just me?
apparantly you guys missed this, so i will just put it out there again. if this isnt "evidence", no matter how weak, then nothing is that we can gain from discussion.

oh, and if you guys are certain me defending jgordon is certain death, why would i do it if it would cost me the game? you guys always mention it is madness, yet i am fearless of it. not scummy in the slightest there.

Where exactly did he "take offense"? Where is he "making sure he doesn't insult anyone with power"?

Can you quote edocs posts which show this? I mean, I've seen a good deal of edoc's posts that focus on jgordon, but seeing as how that was the case under discussion at the time, I think it's relevant.

nàme · Post by **nàme** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:40 pm

edocsil wrote: I don't know who you are in game, but I don't think your claim is as solid as mine. Some people I believe have figured out who I am at this point and know why I should be kept alive. This is how I play town power, it makes me a target but it also gets me the defense I need at night.

overly aggresive

edocsil wrote: Gah lay off. You are letting this get WAAAY to personal. I went after you a few times. It really isn't a big deal. Oh, and More WIFOM from Name. I should go make a formal case against him.

taking offense

edocsil wrote:I happen to know when the mod looked to replace Com, and very shortly after that you started posting. Several days later you say you don't have your PM. It doesn't add up and I am calling you out for it. Perhaps you are telling the truth, and if that is the case you should have known better to post without a role. This has been an issue before IIRC.

overly aggressive

just a few examples, but maybe im digging a little too deep here. im not sure, or maybe it is just his style. but it is still the best thing to go on right now IMO

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:17 pm

You think that is a case?
A is not (or even remotely) aggressive at all, just explaining why I play town power as I do.

B is me telling JG to keep cool. I am afraid I don't see how this is taking offense.

C is aggressive. However I have had my issues with SG in the past so please pardon any hotness. I called SG for either posting without a role or lying about the time he received a role. Either one is a issue and he deserved the heat he caught for it.

nàme · Post by **nàme** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:49 am

right now, that is the best we got. or, would you rather go around pressuring people to claim until we hit a doc or something?

shieldgenerator7 · Post by **shieldgenerator7** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:00 am

nàme wrote:right now, that is the best we got. or, would you rather go around pressuring people to claim until we hit a doc or something?

skimmer! We already hit a doc, remember?

BGtheBrain · Post by **BGtheBrain** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:05 am

DoomYoshi · Post by **DoomYoshi** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:37 am

Correct, Friday. Even with enormous activity,I probably won't extend that deadline. This day has gone on long enough.

Leehar · Post by **Leehar** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:49 am

thats still a good week tho for this stagnation to continue

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:05 pm

4 hours till I am done with this hellacious week. I have a case I want to pursue so hopefully we can drive some more activity once I have the time to set it up properly.

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:08 pm

Anyhow my case.

Unvote Vote Name.

I have had a few issues with the way he is playing, things that I find to be quite scummy.

Some of it is REALLY blatant skiming. Skimming isn't a think I usually include in a serious case but sometimes it is valid.

nàme wrote:right now, that is the best we got. or, would you rather go around pressuring people to claim until we hit a doc or something?

This is bad. As town the Doc is the single most important role out there. You have to keep track of the doc, and Name didn't ever remember that one was asininely told to claim, much less who he is.

He is using some serious WIFOM to imply that he is Town.

nàme wrote:But in all seriously, i do post and i have just been waiting for a chance to burst. edoc is dictating what is going on and by me attacking him i am throwing myself out there: which is what any insane scum would do if they wanted to get killed. it is a mistake to think i am evil, and it might cost us the game if we dont fight back now (assuming they are scum).

This is also interesting that in order to defend JG he attempts creates case on me while the discussion of JG was still in full swing. Not saying anything about JG at the moment yet, just highlighting the potential for information if anything interesting happens.

He also seems to be very happy to follow whoever has spoken last and rarely disagrees with others unless an objection has been already raised, but I will write this timidity off as being new to the mafia scene here.

This is a bit short, but most of the game has been me bickering with either JG or Eagle and there is less content out there then I would hope. Apologies for that.

Leehar · Post by **Leehar** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:44 pm

If most of the last 32 pages was all that, then it is a cause for concern. But again in that triumvirate you're the only one to have still kept cards mostly close to his chest which is why I just feel you're the fairest option to put that whole sage to rest

safariguy5 · Post by **safariguy5** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:29 pm

Leehar wrote:If most of the last 32 pages was all that, then it is a cause for concern. But again in that triumvirate you're the only one to have still kept cards mostly close to his chest which is why I just feel you're the fairest option to put that whole sage to rest

Wait, so do you think edoc was lying when he softclaimed a town power role? Because if he is forced to claim, we may not have enough resources to protect both him and BG. I mean, at this point, I'm pretty sure he's already pretty high on the mafia kill list after BG, no need to make it easier for mafia to prioritize.

Of course I assume you believe he's really a town power role and not like a VT or something trying to draw mafia fire. Because this is textbook VT play too.

nàme · Post by **nàme** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:33 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:
nàme wrote:right now, that is the best we got. or, would you rather go around pressuring people to claim until we hit a doc or something?
skimmer! We already hit a doc, remember?

that is why i said doc. to remind us that we already did, and how poorly it went. if we keep on pressuring everyone, we will only end up giving the mafia the knowledge they need. that is why i said doc, and that is why things need to change.

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:57 pm

nàme wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
nàme wrote:right now, that is the best we got. or, would you rather go around pressuring people to claim until we hit a doc or something?
skimmer! We already hit a doc, remember?
that is why i said doc. to remind us that we already did, and how poorly it went. if we keep on pressuring everyone, we will only end up giving the mafia the knowledge they need. that is why i said doc, and that is why things need to change.

I do just want to double check, English is your first language correct? Not being rude, but I am not going to nit pick intent if it isn't.

nàme · Post by **nàme** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:03 pm

again, proof of being over aggressive. he knows he has nothing against me, so he resorts to insulting my laziness and broken shift key. not to mention me always agreeing with the person last spoken, which is pretty much the polar opposite of what i have achieved today

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:07 pm

Wait what?

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:10 pm

I mean seriously. I asked because you seemed to have misunderstood me a few times and what you said in any strict sort of definition of common English clearly implies that you completely forgot about the doc. I was goign to call you out for that if you were familiar enough with the language to have know that and let it slide if you were not. Sheessh. All the new guys think I out to get them.

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