H.E. Mafia, Game Over, Town Prevails. [archive plox]

[chapcrap]

Well of who's left, I've played with 5 of you. So hopefully I can nit-pick at your actions this game compared to last. Which so far I find Ghostly is putting more of himself into this game than the last, which leaves me to believe (Not guarantee) that he is town. Last game he was not really that much into the game and he was scum.

Hopefully that helps, because as of yet it is all I have so far on my analysis of this game. (Which excuse my quietness that may or may not set in) But joining the 2nd day leaves me with no true leads to follow as of yet. But a claim on the 2nd day? It sounds fishy. Just saying, but make sure to exploit all the info you can from it.

I will say right now that I disagree with this assessment of ghostly's play in other games. I've been in multiple games with him, where he has been town and not town and he has been rather active in all. Almost overactive in all.

[ghostly447]

Well of who's left, I've played with 5 of you. So hopefully I can nit-pick at your actions this game compared to last. Which so far I find Ghostly is putting more of himself into this game than the last, which leaves me to believe (Not guarantee) that he is town. Last game he was not really that much into the game and he was scum.

Hopefully that helps, because as of yet it is all I have so far on my analysis of this game. (Which excuse my quietness that may or may not set in) But joining the 2nd day leaves me with no true leads to follow as of yet. But a claim on the 2nd day? It sounds fishy. Just saying, but make sure to exploit all the info you can from it.

I will say right now that I disagree with this assessment of ghostly's play in other games. I've been in multiple games with him, where he has been town and not town and he has been rather active in all. Almost overactive in all.

I try to keep a steady game play so fellow players cannot go back and try to do exactly this to me. lol. Because that way players cannot go back and say I was active as town, inactive as mafia. Occasionally, my activeness causes a scum-slip, but normally I can remain consistent throughout.

Either way, I do not see anyone here having a full proof case against my activity in this game and others since I have only finished 3 games, 1 as and SK,1 of which I was scum and 1 of which I was a VT and kept my activity up to par until I died, or until the end.

Besides this, I am finally going to have some potential at getting full computer access back, and if that is the case I will go and access whats been said, etc. and try to build a strong case or 2.

[jak111]

Hey, I said no guarantee, it's just what I've noticed so far. Give me a few pages of new posts for me to really see how people act.

[ghostly447]

Hey, I said no guarantee, it's just what I've noticed so far. Give me a few pages of new posts for me to really see how people act.

Haha, I was just saying. But this game isnt about my gameplay, so I think we have decided that even though me (and surprisingly spiesr!) are okay with a lynch due to the facts that have been listed several times, but no one else wants to. I have nearly gained full access to my computer again, and may be going to a friends house tonight in which case I think I may finally get time to look through and make another case! But as of right now, I dont think we will find any strong cases...We will see.

[jonty125]

But a claim on the 2nd day? It sounds fishy.

Would you care to elaborate why a claim on D2 is fishy

[DoomYoshi]

spiesr, I do not mean to dismiss his claim, I just simply dont believe his claim. And the normal people who normally pick it apart such as doomyoshi and sometimes chapcrap just arent doing it this time which makes me think they are connected. They would rather ask for a counterclaim from another doctor than delve deeper into this claimed doctor (which by the way, CLEVER has complained about this community putting everything under a microscope. So the fact it isnt that bad this time is just a surprise to me as to why our normally amazing town players just arent playing it like they normally do.

It is just the overall scenario of the 3 I have accused that unnerves me. Normally a doctor claim would be fine by me, but the name and the other factors in this particular claim are what make me want to delve deeper and not trust this claim.

When did I ask for a counterclaim? I am pretty sure I didn't. Killing a claimed doc doesn't make sense on D2. Even if he is lying, there is plenty of time to lynch him tomorrow. We can test his claim tonight. Now that the bus driver is dead, unless the mafia has one, we should be able to figure out what is going on after a night.

I agree with you 100% that it is a fishy claim. I agree with you 100% that clever has dropped scumtells like a comet. But lynching a doctor is serious business. I won't do it on principle. However, you only need half the votes. you can lynch him without me.

[MoB Deadly]

Welcome to the game jak!!!

As for ghostly, as someone else said, I pretty much seen him as overactive in every game he is in. I haven't seen his activity change, even when I was his scum buddy in a game haha. However when I do see someone surprisingly active, I don't assume they are town, usually players that draw mafia get very excited about the game too and they like to check the thread and post frequently as well. So I normally classify it as they have and "interesting" role.

[safariguy5]

Welcome to the game jak!!!

As for ghostly, as someone else said, I pretty much seen him as overactive in every game he is in. I haven't seen his activity change, even when I was his scum buddy in a game haha. However when I do see someone surprisingly active, I don't assume they are town, usually players that draw mafia get very excited about the game too and they like to check the thread and post frequently as well. So I normally classify it as they have and "interesting" role.

Or they could be VT trying to draw scum NK's. Activity for me isn't a big concern unless someone is submarining. Certainly some people post more, but that doesn't matter nearly as much as what they're post is about.

[jak111]

But a claim on the 2nd day? It sounds fishy.

Would you care to elaborate why a claim on D2 is fishy

How is it not fishy? No real pressure, it makes the mafia know who to target for night 2. So tell me, what about the claim sounds realistic?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Was pancake ever prodded cause he still hasn't said anything in a real long time

[strike wolf]

But a claim on the 2nd day? It sounds fishy.

Would you care to elaborate why a claim on D2 is fishy

How is it not fishy? No real pressure, it makes the mafia know who to target for night 2. So tell me, what about the claim sounds realistic?

This is probably why you need to read the thread and not just skim it.

[spiesr]

But a claim on the 2nd day? It sounds fishy.

Would you care to elaborate why a claim on D2 is fishy

How is it not fishy? No real pressure, it makes the mafia know who to target for night 2. So tell me, what about the claim sounds realistic?

I assume that you are talking about SomethingClever's claim, as he is the only one to claim so far. There was not "no real pressure" towards this claim. It was "claim and/or you will be lynched."

[dazza2008]

Jak you really do need to read the thread. I know there is quite a bit but you skimming through means you missed a lot. He was at L-2 and you really should have known that.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Ya please read the thread I dont wanna for cause you missed something

[Some7hingCLEVER]

*die cause

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Was pancake ever prodded cause he still hasn't said anything in a real long time

Yeah he requested a replacement... I'm looking for one.

-Tails

[jak111]

Alright, I'll see what happened >.< 20-30 pages aren't easy to read word for word and who said what. Though I will be also looking where this 'pressure' started at. Perhaps the real killer will be found.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Lol thanks and hopefully we get a replacement for spm soon

[ghostly447]

Alright, I'll see what happened >.< 20-30 pages aren't easy to read word for word and who said what. Though I will be also looking where this 'pressure' started at. Perhaps the real killer will be found.

Take notes. Who pressured him first, who continued the pressure, who backed off fastest (you may notice a trend in the first to pressure and then back off), etc. Maybe some fresh eyes can see something we all missed.

[Victor Sullivan]

Sorry for the lack of activity. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

Apologies,

-Sully

[Victor Sullivan]

Sorry for the lack of activity. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

Apologies,

-Sully

EBWOP: Shut the f*ck up, Donny!

-Sully

[jonty125]

Alright, I'll see what happened >.<

I know you said you hadn't read the thread but that was a big thing & I hoped that you had at least a brief look through. I will let your skimming slide just this once but next time I'll note and place a FOS at least

[chapcrap]

Ok, since this has kind of stalled, I want to state an observation that I had after reading through again.

So, in the wake of CLEVER claiming doc, ghostly still did not let up. Even though CLEVER had claimed doc. However, there was no counter claim and ghostly also did not want the doctor to claim. Even through much opposition, ghostly kept on with his attempt against CLEVER.

What do I make of this? Either ghostly is trying to get a doc lynched or ghostly is the real doc. To me, it seems silly for ghostly to continue leading a lynch on a doc if he wasn't the doc. So, unvote vote CLEVER

[soundman]

Ok, since this has kind of stalled, I want to state an observation that I had after reading through again.

So, in the wake of CLEVER claiming doc, ghostly still did not let up. Even though CLEVER had claimed doc. However, there was no counter claim and ghostly also did not want the doctor to claim. Even through much opposition, ghostly kept on with his attempt against CLEVER.

What do I make of this? Either ghostly is trying to get a doc lynched or ghostly is the real doc. To me, it seems silly for ghostly to continue leading a lynch on a doc if he wasn't the doc. So, unvote vote CLEVER

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. However if that were the case (ghostly was the doc) why not claim? If he were to convince enough people to lynch Clever and Clever turned up mafia, then wouldn't the mafia figure he was the real doc and off him during the night? So why not just claim and get Clever lynched?

[chapcrap]

Ok, since this has kind of stalled, I want to state an observation that I had after reading through again.

So, in the wake of CLEVER claiming doc, ghostly still did not let up. Even though CLEVER had claimed doc. However, there was no counter claim and ghostly also did not want the doctor to claim. Even through much opposition, ghostly kept on with his attempt against CLEVER.

What do I make of this? Either ghostly is trying to get a doc lynched or ghostly is the real doc. To me, it seems silly for ghostly to continue leading a lynch on a doc if he wasn't the doc. So, unvote vote CLEVER

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. However if that were the case (ghostly was the doc) why not claim? If he were to convince enough people to lynch Clever and Clever turned up mafia, then wouldn't the mafia figure he was the real doc and off him during the night? So why not just claim and get Clever lynched?

I don't know. I'm nervous about potentially lynching another doctor. But, after looking through that makes the most sense. I would feel better about it if ghostly claimed, but then mafia would know for sure who he was. Of course, I'm sure there is something a town person might be able to do about it during the night.

The part about why ghostly should/shouldn't claim if he's the doc and what mafia might do is all WIFOMy. There's no telling what they might do even if they know who the doc is.