Greater China [Quenched] (thanks Widowmakers)

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:30 am

ClessAlvein wrote:As long as you're using phonetics, it should be Nei Menggu, not Nei Mongol.

what is phonetics? and on the few maps i used it all was named nei mongol

ClessAlvein · Post by **ClessAlvein** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:39 am

Well, I just noticed that you were using names that were written in a way that completely corresponds with the Chinese system for writing down words phonetically. (e.g. Sichuan instead of Szechuan as western nations sometimes refer to it) Going by that system, Nei Mongol should be Neimenggu.

All the tourism sites or sites based in North America, Australia, and Europe seem to call it Nei Mongol, while sites based in China call it Neimenggu.

vakEirn79 · Post by **vakEirn79** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:44 am

Interestingly, while the map in ClessAlvein's post uses phonetics for Inner Mongolia, it neglects to do so for Tibet, Hong Kong, and Macau...

ClessAlvein · Post by **ClessAlvein** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:03 am

Hmm, you're right. Completely phonetically would require Hong Kong -> Xianggang, Macau -> Aumen, Tibet -> Xizang, and people would probably have trouble recognizing these names. I think Nei Mongol or Inner Mongolia is fine, then.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:24 am

you have an older map... tibet is the name that the americans gave china, xizang is the real name

look to this maps:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_e ... ing_90.jpg
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_e ... lreg96.jpg

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:29 am

the small map last smaller army circles. thats lazy, and make sit all looked cramped.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:38 am

The army circle in Liaoning is slightly in Nei Mongol. Do you think you could move it over a little?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:41 am

mibi wrote:the small map last smaller army circles. thats lazy, and make sit all looked cramped.

read this quote of mine before you post that:

Wisse wrote:here are the maps with the xml (i know shangdon is a bit to high i will lower that one, and i know the army circles in the tiny version are to tiny)

thats is above the map

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:41 am

pancakemix wrote:The army circle in Liaoning is slightly in Nei Mongol. Do you think you could move it over a little?

i did try it but it didn't look good

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:49 am

serieus the walls totally dont fit in there, make the look more like part of the map

ryanraphael · Post by **ryanraphael** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:26 am

Wisse wrote:
ryanraphael wrote:Hi
I am a Chinese . I have been seeking for a China map

Em..I do not understand Hebei + Guangdong + Jiangsu earn two bonus...

I understand the meaning of the graph( black and white in color)
but I think that's strange.

All other things are good(especially the bridges)
I am looking forward to see the release of this map~
thats because of the kapitals: "bejing, Hong Kong & Shanghai

oh I see, but I will suggest you to use economic centers in stead of three Taoism logos~

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:34 am

ryanraphael wrote:
Wisse wrote:
ryanraphael wrote:Hi
I am a Chinese . I have been seeking for a China map

Em..I do not understand Hebei + Guangdong + Jiangsu earn two bonus...

I understand the meaning of the graph( black and white in color)
but I think that's strange.

All other things are good(especially the bridges)
I am looking forward to see the release of this map~
thats because of the kapitals: "bejing, Hong Kong & Shanghai
oh I see, but I will suggest you to use economic centers in stead of three Taoism logos~

i don't know what you mean with economic centers can you get pictures of it?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:36 am

Lone.prophet wrote:serieus the walls totally dont fit in there, make the look more like part of the map

sorry but i still think it looks good, it looks like a large plateau at the same thickness all the time, so its flat just as the other things at my map

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:12 am

more feedback needed plz

haoala · Post by **haoala** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:52 am

i think all the continent should have more bonus
red - at least 4, with so many one way borders
beijing and shenyang - at least 3 each, many borders as well
green is ok
yellow should have 5
orange perhaps 2 (or even 3)? its hard to get, considering how many surrounding territories there are
blue should have 5
and i think having all three "special symbols" have not enough bonus, its not enticing enough; nobody would get them. Perhaps raise it to 4 or 5 so it would be attractive

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:57 am

haoala wrote:i think all the continent should have more bonus
red - at least 4, with so many one way borders
beijing and shenyang - at least 3 each, many borders as well
green is ok
yellow should have 5
orange perhaps 2 (or even 3)? its hard to get, considering how many surrounding territories there are
blue should have 5
and i think having all three "special symbols" have not enough bonus, its not enticing enough; nobody would get them. Perhaps raise it to 4 or 5 so it would be attractive

red, only has 3 borders... the same as green and you said that that one is good so i think you need to recount..
beijing and sehnyang have both only 3 countrys so you suggest 1 bonus per country?
also 5 countrys you suggest 1 bonus per country?
again to much... i suggest you looking into other maps, i use my methods to set the bonuses, you don't think holding the three capitals for 4 or 5 is a bit much since it are only 3 countrys?

LoeNY · Post by **LoeNY** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:44 pm

Wisse wrote:
ryanraphael wrote:
Wisse wrote: thats because of the kapitals: "bejing, Hong Kong & Shanghai
oh I see, but I will suggest you to use economic centers in stead of three Taoism logos~
i don't know what you mean with economic centers can you get pictures of it?

How about some highrise buildings as a symbol for the capitlas?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:26 pm

ericleung wrote:
Wisse wrote:
ryanraphael wrote:
Wisse wrote: thats because of the kapitals: "bejing, Hong Kong & Shanghai
oh I see, but I will suggest you to use economic centers in stead of three Taoism logos~
i don't know what you mean with economic centers can you get pictures of it?
How about some highrise buildings as a symbol for the capitlas?

if you got some good pictures post them, i don't know any pictures of that that fit in my map

Arcanos · Post by **Arcanos** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:08 pm

i like the idea of a china map.

i don't like the current arrows for one way attacks

it also bothers me that mongolia can attack over the great wall one way.....the wall was there to keep mongols out.....though i guess its now in ruins

ryanraphael · Post by **ryanraphael** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:19 am

I think you can use words like

Econ. centers

instead of pictures

As a Chinese, I can hardly understand your meaning by using 3 Taoism logos

joeyjordison · Post by **joeyjordison** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:49 pm

all the continents hav numerous borders and not many territories. it seems that many will be fairly impossible to hold due to the sheer number of borders on everything.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:46 am

Arcanos wrote:i like the idea of a china map.

i don't like the current arrows for one way attacks

it also bothers me that mongolia can attack over the great wall one way.....the wall was there to keep mongols out.....though i guess its now in ruins

tell me what you don't like about the arrows and then i can change them

it isn't mongol its nei mongol, thats china, and its not what is meant to be in history it is if there would be war right now

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:49 am

ryanraphael wrote:I think you can use words like

Econ. centers

instead of pictures

As a Chinese, I can hardly understand your meaning by using 3 Taoism logos

just give me pics i can't find them with those words and i don't like putting only text on it that is confusing

it are the ying yang symbols, but why not? if you have some better pictures put them here otherwise i can't change them

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:49 am

joeyjordison wrote:all the continents hav numerous borders and not many territories. it seems that many will be fairly impossible to hold due to the sheer number of borders on everything.

already discussed, it is just anather stategy you need to defense more here

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:17 am

Something I just noticed is there are 29 territories, which you can't divide with 3, 4, 5 or 6. If you add just one more territory, you'll only get neutrals in a 4 player game.

Some of your borders are looking a bit jagged, the Shenyang/Dead territory border in particular. You could probably use a bit more definition in the legend as well. A small shadow or outline to the text will perhaps fix it up. Apart from those little things, the map is shaping up nicely Wisse.