Power Role Draft Mafia - Town Wins!

[ghostly447]

EBWOP.

Also, now somehow SoundMan is connected to me and CLEVER? Quick everybody, side with me and CLEVER so that you get thrown on the scum list!

So now you all are doing something that seems quite familiar to me..But it didnt work actually. It was CLEVERS defense which ultimately turned into my defense. You know, connecting people through post after post? YEAHHH, NOW I REMEMBER.

Fastposted by CLEVER

[nagerous]

At this point I think we need to lynch ghostly.

unvote vote ghostly

He made too many scum tells day 1, and even though he is town telling with his nag tunneling I still think he is the pick for today. The downside is if we he flips town and we continue to lose two townies a night then we may only get one more lynch. However that is true of whoever we lynch, if ghostly is mafia then we have a lot of reads on people.

Although prior to his lynch I would like to hear from everybody on their assessment of him and the game in general.

1. everywhere116-seems kinda scummy seems to like to connect people for very stupid reasons
2. ghostly447-believe he is a town who is just in a bad situation(had to leave causing him to look scummy)
3. Some7hingCLEVER-obviously town ..he is awesome
4. pmchugh-seems like town to me just seems like he is trying to hit a mafia to be the one to do it
5. edocsil-seems town..playing a numbers game
6. nagerous-def. seems scum for multiple reasons
7. dazza2008-hasnt said anything (of substance) in a while..scumarining?
9. Djfireside-also hasnt said anything (at all) since friday
10. spiesr-seems town to me
11. MoB Deadly-dropped out while i was in the middle of making a case on him lol
12. soundman-seems town to me lol seems to be getting "connected" to me and ghostly
13. alt1978-lol started posting paragraphs and has evolved to posting novels

Constantly following your RL friend on everything who has had a vendetta on me since my 3rd bloody post where I questioned his logic behind a vote on me, which he later proclaimed as random. One of the worst case of buddying in real life contributing to flawed mafia playing. You are going to look so scummy when your pal is revealed as scum. Please build a case on me elaborating these multiple reasons? The fact that I voted shield - who turned out to be mafia was the last reason you voted me. And ghostly of course I pop in and out, I WORK, I HAVE A JOB - I can't spend all day on the fucking internet reading the mafia game.

[edocsil]

Just for the record, Nag pwnd you there.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Lol own me all he wants I've made it a point I dont let that interfere with my games ...if someone made goibt points and good cases ...or even cases that weren't good ..but in turn you believed good...would you not agree with them? Riddle me that tom

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Lol own me all he wants I've made it a point I dont let that interfere with my games ...if someone made good points and good cases ...or even cases that weren't good ..but in turn you believed good...would you not agree with them? Riddle me that tom

EBWOP

[Rodion]

Simplified vote count

ghostly447 - everywhere116, edocsil, nagerous, drunkmonkey, pmchugh (L-2)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

If I missed your vote, please let me know and post it in red for future reference!

[pmchugh]

At this point I think we need to lynch ghostly.

unvote vote ghostly

He made too many scum tells day 1, and even though he is town telling with his nag tunneling I still think he is the pick for today. The downside is if we he flips town and we continue to lose two townies a night then we may only get one more lynch. However that is true of whoever we lynch, if ghostly is mafia then we have a lot of reads on people.

Although prior to his lynch I would like to hear from everybody on their assessment of him and the game in general.

How about this one. Point out my scum slips please. Because I could have sworn this case was being led because me and CLEVER were somehow, in your ultimate universe of knowledge, connected.

Point out all the scum slips I have made, because quite honestly I think Nag and Dazza are scummy here.

Dazza's last 5 posts have all been 1 liners of no substance. The last thing he posted of substance was the 23rd defending himself from a CLEVER brief mentioning of the defense he is using (you are connecting us for having the same view).

I read Nags posts all the way back to the 19th and just gave up on trying to find something that was of substance, or the wasnt jumping on a damn wagon.

Now I am getting ticked. Does no one else see this? They pop in then pop out, and no one sees WHY I think they are scummy. At least 2/3 of their posts arent anything of substance, but yet I will soon be lynched by these very same people. Then what? They are forgotton because no one brings them up again? I have evidence showing exactly what they are doing. But I will be lynched by them because of leaving a game to make sure I wouldnt ruin any games.

PMC, if you can come up with some hard evidence showing that I did in fact slip a multitude of times, I will hammer myself if it will truly help the town as much as you think it will. But for God's sake, you are narrowing it down and doing exactly what you are accusing me of. Does that mean its your turn next lynch? I doubt it since you will obviously convince the town "Lets lynch CLEVER, or someone else who has made just enough slips to be mafia".

Hard evidence? There is no such thing. Do you forget that I made a case against you on day 1 that you completely gave up on and never responded to?

I am not sure how relevant the points I were making are now but it seems like you have tried to sweep it under the carpet.

[spiesr]

Lol own me all he wants I've made it a point I dont let that interfere with my games ...if someone made goibt points and good cases ...or even cases that weren't good ..but in turn you believed good...would you not agree with them? Riddle me that tom

And if someone consistently agreed with a defended certain other players, and those players returned the agreements and defenses, it would make some level of sense to consider the possibility that those players were connection.
Or, if one player who is known to have out of game connections to another and is consistently following that player's lead throughout the game it may raise questions of if the out of game connections have influenced the first player's judgement on the issue.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Ok well go ahead and lynch him I honestly dont know if he is scum or not..if he is I guess im screwed

[Djfireside]

Sorry I have been reading this and only lately did I realize that I wasnt actually posting anything back.

I attempted to reread this thread again but I have done it too many times it was boring.

One thing that struck me as odd was that from the very start dj seemed very clued up on how the setup works and then today he hits out with:

I made a statement before and I have a theory so I would like others input on this one.

Judging by the double death, the only possibility in theory would have been JOAT and Vigilante. The JOAT using the one shot vig and the vig being a vig. Does anyone see any other possibilities?

Im just trying to figure out if there are any other ways to be killed other than those two roles that anyone sees as Im pretty sure mafia have taken them

Seems like a forced town tell to me.

I figured I would answer this since I hadnt before. The reason I was very set on how the setup was is because I got it in my head that the roles were the only ones that could do anything and was completely obvious to mafia having their own night kill which was just a lapse in reasoning on my part as the randomness would kill the game for it. I had a thought if it was based on roles but that was clearly misjudged.

In most of my readings and the cases brought on ghost I can see the points in however in most of my findings I found Clever to be worse in the same reason everyone is going for ghost. I found numerous points and clever from SG7 and their back and forth and while pressure was him he was trying to divert it. Ghostly seems to have gotten caught in the mix. I have found more points on him that ghost but with ghosts role selection it seems to be a bit off when the list got posted based on where they stood and how they had everything set and the response to it seemed a bit off plus the quitting portion just is leaving me on edge.

[ghostly447]

At this point I think we need to lynch ghostly.

unvote vote ghostly

He made too many scum tells day 1, and even though he is town telling with his nag tunneling I still think he is the pick for today. The downside is if we he flips town and we continue to lose two townies a night then we may only get one more lynch. However that is true of whoever we lynch, if ghostly is mafia then we have a lot of reads on people.

Although prior to his lynch I would like to hear from everybody on their assessment of him and the game in general.

1. everywhere116-seems kinda scummy seems to like to connect people for very stupid reasons
2. ghostly447-believe he is a town who is just in a bad situation(had to leave causing him to look scummy)
3. Some7hingCLEVER-obviously town ..he is awesome
4. pmchugh-seems like town to me just seems like he is trying to hit a mafia to be the one to do it
5. edocsil-seems town..playing a numbers game
6. nagerous-def. seems scum for multiple reasons
7. dazza2008-hasnt said anything (of substance) in a while..scumarining?
9. Djfireside-also hasnt said anything (at all) since friday
10. spiesr-seems town to me
11. MoB Deadly-dropped out while i was in the middle of making a case on him lol
12. soundman-seems town to me lol seems to be getting "connected" to me and ghostly
13. alt1978-lol started posting paragraphs and has evolved to posting novels

Constantly following your RL friend on everything who has had a vendetta on me since my 3rd bloody post where I questioned his logic behind a vote on me, which he later proclaimed as random. One of the worst case of buddying in real life contributing to flawed mafia playing. You are going to look so scummy when your pal is revealed as scum. Please build a case on me elaborating these multiple reasons? The fact that I voted shield - who turned out to be mafia was the last reason you voted me. And ghostly of course I pop in and out, I WORK, I HAVE A JOB - I can't spend all day on the fucking internet reading the mafia game.

Lynch me now. Because by your logic I will flip Mafia and it will be time to kill clever. So therefore since I know Im town then by your logic when I flip town that points to..oh wait. The people I have accused. Nag dazza and several others. Do you see the affects of such accusations?

Pmc if you had strong logic that I felt I had not yet disproven in that case I would have brought it back. Truth be told I do not see anything you brought to the fable against me and clever that we did not separately or together disprove or bring against you

So go ahead and Lynch me if you are that confident. Apparently there is nobody here that can see exactly what's happening here. Maybe my lynch will play to the benefit of the town while they have 1 lynch till we lose potentially.


That is about all I have left. I don't know how I can prove to the rest of the town that I am on your side. I even showed exactly how much substance dazza and nag post and yet he nag is pardoned by saying he doesn't have asmuch time as some people. I understand that but come on guys. If that's all I had yo say to get out of this weak case of connecting people then this game would never end.

You guys wonder why me and clever basically fight each others defense but truly it is because you paired us together and called us scum. Its the exact same case. The exact same weak case of 3 defensive cases stating our damn opinions on the sg7 case that happened to be Mafia. Now they say we defend each other the entire time because of the situation we are in. We defend each other because the defense of one works in favor of the other.

That is all. I leave this game and wait for more skipped over skumslips and more weak cases "connecting" us.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Ya regardless of this game it will be my last all other games I have signed up for I will ask to be taken off the list...i will not play if you guys suspect us to be conversing outside the game and even though I know were not I can't have people saying were buddying up...itll ruin future games...I'll finish my current ones but after that I am done

[edocsil]

Ya regardless of this game it will be my last all other games I have signed up for I will ask to be taken off the list...i will not play if you guys suspect us to be conversing outside the game and even though I know were not I can't have people saying were buddying up...itll ruin future games...I'll finish my current ones but after that I am done

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[spiesr]

Ya regardless of this game it will be my last all other games I have signed up for I will ask to be taken off the list...i will not play if you guys suspect us to be conversing outside the game and even though I know were not I can't have people saying were buddying up...itll ruin future games...I'll finish my current ones but after that I am done

I don't think that anyone has said anything that indicates they think you are breaking the rules by discussing the game outside of the thread.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

At this point I think we need to lynch ghostly.

unvote vote ghostly

He made too many scum tells day 1, and even though he is town telling with his nag tunneling I still think he is the pick for today. The downside is if we he flips town and we continue to lose two townies a night then we may only get one more lynch. However that is true of whoever we lynch, if ghostly is mafia then we have a lot of reads on people.

Although prior to his lynch I would like to hear from everybody on their assessment of him and the game in general.

1. everywhere116-seems kinda scummy seems to like to connect people for very stupid reasons
2. ghostly447-believe he is a town who is just in a bad situation(had to leave causing him to look scummy)
3. Some7hingCLEVER-obviously town ..he is awesome
4. pmchugh-seems like town to me just seems like he is trying to hit a mafia to be the one to do it
5. edocsil-seems town..playing a numbers game
6. nagerous-def. seems scum for multiple reasons
7. dazza2008-hasnt said anything (of substance) in a while..scumarining?
9. Djfireside-also hasnt said anything (at all) since friday
10. spiesr-seems town to me
11. MoB Deadly-dropped out while i was in the middle of making a case on him lol
12. soundman-seems town to me lol seems to be getting "connected" to me and ghostly
13. alt1978-lol started posting paragraphs and has evolved to posting novels

Constantly following your RL friend on everything who has had a vendetta on me since my 3rd bloody post where I questioned his logic behind a vote on me, which he later proclaimed as random. One of the worst case of buddying in real life contributing to flawed mafia playing. You are going to look so scummy when your pal is revealed as scum. Please build a case on me elaborating these multiple reasons? The fact that I voted shield - who turned out to be mafia was the last reason you voted me. And ghostly of course I pop in and out, I WORK, I HAVE A JOB - I can't spend all day on the fucking internet reading the mafia game.

this is what im reffering to

[everywhere116]

Nowhere does he insinuate that you're breaking the rules. Rather that you're naive or scum.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

he is assuming though..he says that im agreeing with him because im his RL friend ..which would be cheating really..well not directly but still it would make every opinion of mines that minory agrees with ghostlys pointless because were RL friends...do you understand? its really agrivating to me to have my RL make it impossible to play.

[everywhere116]

I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.

[pmchugh]

Toys out the pram here tonight.

Pmc if you had strong logic that I felt I had not yet disproven in that case I would have brought it back. Truth be told I do not see anything you brought to the fable against me and clever that we did not separately or together disprove or bring against you

Why did you never get back to me on this:

I am going back to bed and will try to respond to this again when I wake up. I cannot keep trying to answer things on mafia while I am this tired. Sorry PMC, you got me here, it was in fact the pills talking to me and it was the last thing I did before a 4 hour nap.

I believe the cop (should there be one) is going to investigate me or pmc. Tracker should consider watching us, and so should watcher. For now, I await SG7's claim, and when I am not so busy will try to re-defend myself against PMC which I failed to effectively do yesterday on my meds .

Also the second post sounds like you telling the framer who to be on.

I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.

Also this is exactly why I was going to bring forward a case as well. Never knew you guys were RL friends.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.

its been said in other games

i prefer not to give into peer pressure lol

understood there are many other games were i disagreed with him ..i do my best to keep my mind in the forum

[drunkmonkey]

I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.

This exactly. I actually started giving less merit to your buddying actions in the game when I found out you were just a new player following your RL friend around.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.

This exactly. I actually started giving less merit to your buddying actions in the game when I found out you were just a new player following your RL friend around.

holy s*** this is exactly why im gonna stop playing!!!
how do you know im following him ?
im 17 years old ..plenty old to make my own decisions regardless if im new or not...being new doesnt mean im as dumb as a damn rock

[pmchugh]

I think he means he thinks you are less likely mafia since you actually know the guy it explains why you have agreed with him.

We know you can think for yourself but being friends with someone can make you more trusting of them and more likely to believe them. We know you are independent people and no one is accusing you of cheating. If someone said I was buddying nag cause we are good friends I would be more happy than if they said we were buddying as actual scum buddies.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

ya I understand I just dont like being connected to him for that reason

[nagerous]

Ya regardless of this game it will be my last all other games I have signed up for I will ask to be taken off the list...i will not play if you guys suspect us to be conversing outside the game and even though I know were not I can't have people saying were buddying up...itll ruin future games...I'll finish my current ones but after that I am done

Nothing to quit the game over. I didn't say that you were conversing outside the game, just that you were seemingly agreeing with each other on way too many issues, which peaked my scumdar majorly. It is a learning curve.