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[betiko]

to JG and Hippo: this is tiring. you guys please pay more attention to the game; maybe it's skimming but I take it more as things you throw in the air because you have memory issues.
If it's not intended please try to be more precize in your game play, if we have to re explain what really happened a page or 2 earlier we are not going to afdvance in a constructive way.

1) I NEVER DEFENDED CLEVER before voting for him!!!! where did that come from hippo??
2) it was me calling out the crown JG; I never played with him but he is scummy as hell. He overplays very badly the confused clueless noob and I am certain he is mafia. PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER ALL GAME I SAID THIS, IF I DIE LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL KNOW WHY TO TRUST ME ON THIS IF IT HAPPENS!!!

We have
-2 claimed trackers (/ and the hippo, I hardly believe they are both telling the truth)
-1 claimed watcher (NG1, which I almost trust completely)
-SG7 claimed nothing substantial, he just softclaimed he didn't know his alignment nor what his powers do. he never said he was a tracker!! My different scenarios are that he is a serial killer, or he is a scum activated role. It is possible that 2 scums needed to visit him (1 to silence him, 1 to activate him)
-Even if I can't clear JG completely, the reason for killing Ghost is just to set him up in my opinion. If you look at ghost's posts, the only thing substantial he was really bringing up were his constant alegations on JG regarding his strange gameplay. Mafia saw an oportunity there I think, and targeted ghost just for this. And good surprise for them!! they killed our doc!
-Clever should at least softclaim what he did. It is quite unlikely to have 2 trackers, and the hippo's version is harder to believe than /'s. What was clever doing around SG7 last night? it is very important for us to know. Mafia already has a few targets anyway

[jgordon1111]

to JG and Hippo: this is tiring. you guys please pay more attention to the game; maybe it's skimming but I take it more as things you throw in the air because you have memory issues.
If it's not intended please try to be more precize in your game play, if we have to re explain what really happened a page or 2 earlier we are not going to afdvance in a constructive way.

1) I NEVER DEFENDED CLEVER before voting for him!!!! where did that come from hippo??
2) it was me calling out the crown JG; I never played with him but he is scummy as hell. He overplays very badly the confused clueless noob and I am certain he is mafia. PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER ALL GAME I SAID THIS, IF I DIE LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL KNOW WHY TO TRUST ME ON THIS IF IT HAPPENS!!!

We have
-2 claimed trackers (/ and the hippo, I hardly believe they are both telling the truth)
-1 claimed watcher (NG1, which I almost trust completely)
-SG7 claimed nothing substantial, he just softclaimed he didn't know his alignment nor what his powers do. he never said he was a tracker!! My different scenarios are that he is a serial killer, or he is a scum activated role. It is possible that 2 scums needed to visit him (1 to silence him, 1 to activate him)
-Even if I can't clear JG completely, the reason for killing Ghost is just to set him up in my opinion. If you look at ghost's posts, the only thing substantial he was really bringing up were his constant alegations on JG regarding his strange gameplay. Mafia saw an oportunity there I think, and targeted ghost just for this. And good surprise for them!! they killed our doc!
-Clever should at least softclaim what he did. It is quite unlikely to have 2 trackers, and the hippo's version is harder to believe than /'s. What was clever doing around SG7 last night? it is very important for us to know. Mafia already has a few targets anyway

Noted Betiko,I read the stuff so many times I confused myself on who said what a couple of times. I think the scenario's as you have laid them out seem to be correct. 4 claims, 2 trackers? and clever there as well yea time to pressure him vote clever I dont like this many claims but if clever is town it will lock down a couple of the others.

[Leehar]

4 claims now jg? Is that just more skimming or did I miss something as well?
There's the 2 trackers and the watcher, sg7, and clever both haven't claimed yet, tho we can assume they both have night actions, and where you're eager to not expose them.

Also, while I read betiko's defence of jg, don't miss the obvious, that instead of a convoluted attempt by mafia to frame jg, it was just jg killing him to deflect attention from himself and because he knows he's a valuable resource to the the game (but again this is just hypothesizing, so I'm not actually saying that is the case). But it's just my experience that mafia don't really think that in-depth to judge affect of different actions etc when a lot is up to chance...

However, I do agree with you on hippo being a bit less shoddy then /.
As jg hmself said earlier, there was no real pressure for him to claim, (I know we said we'd like to hear what his action was as one of those to visit sg) but he essentially didn't tell us anything we didn't already know (he tracked shield, who visited /, whooptedo)
/ is interesting as well because he didn't really tell us much different either, but since there likely wasn't much else to say on why he visited sg as ng said he did (tho I did supposit a scenario, which I think if he was mafia he'd have more likely just stuck to).
However, I still doubt that mafia would actually stick their neck out to counter-claim if they can't prove it, and while neither of the guys are actually proven trackers, we can definitely assume that one of them are lying (since 2 trackers in a game this small went theirs no hint of other pairs seems nonsensical. And lying often = scum

Also, something I think to mention with all this visiting going on, is that I've heard that when mafia members talk to each other, they also show up as visiting each other, which could be a reason for both sg and / visiting each other, tho since / got on my case for apparently vociferously defending sg, I doubt thats likely.


In the meanwhile, I'd also like to see these 3 guys that have already claimed, to say they're role-claims, so we can determine for once and for all if it more easily fits into town or scum vibes.

So it's between hippo and / for me and since hippo's also going away for 2 weeks where he'll be useless to us (similar to jak I think it was who's voting clever because he was away in d1 ), Vote hippo

This hasn't really cleared clever just yet, and it would be nice to know what he's doing with this nefarious silencer supposedly about, but I'm inclined to give him some more rope to hang himself, and I think we have enough for now in the 2 that are countering each other.

[Leehar]

Also, I apologize if I right these huge posts that apparently confuse some people (you guys are probs skimming scum ), but it's just that I seem to miss a lot of the rt convo's that go on between 3 and 6 am my time, and so have a couple of pages to read through and comment on

[new guy1]

Also, I apologize if I right these huge posts that apparently confuse some people (you guys are probs skimming scum ), but it's just that I seem to miss a lot of the rt convo's that go on between 3 and 6 am my time, and so have a couple of pages to read through and comment on

It is no problem, and I like the big post. It sums up alot along with giving your opinion, its nice . However, Clever is in the forums right now, and I will expect a claim from him soon.

[crazymilkshake5]

Offical Vote Count

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Leehar-L5 (/)
Some7hingCLEVER-L4 (Bekito, Jgordon)
jgordon1111-L5 (jak111)
Thehippo-L5 (Leehar)

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Also, I apologize if I right these huge posts that apparently confuse some people (you guys are probs skimming scum ), but it's just that I seem to miss a lot of the rt convo's that go on between 3 and 6 am my time, and so have a couple of pages to read through and comment on

It is no problem, and I like the big post. It sums up alot along with giving your opinion, its nice . However, Clever is in the forums right now, and I will expect a claim from him soon.

sorry just checking in (have it pulled up on my computer just im using a different tab just checking into one game at a time) but anyway i really dont wanna claim so ill just say one thing

i have a few powers that i can use at night one which was to silence someone and i thought it was interesting and i have never used it before so i wanted to use it(only now do i realize how important that power is) but i get all my powers back when i have used them all one time (but after using them i have to wait to "recharge" (one night) i have never had a role like this so im a tiny bit confused but that is what i know about it.

[new guy1]

Also, I apologize if I right these huge posts that apparently confuse some people (you guys are probs skimming scum ), but it's just that I seem to miss a lot of the rt convo's that go on between 3 and 6 am my time, and so have a couple of pages to read through and comment on

It is no problem, and I like the big post. It sums up alot along with giving your opinion, its nice . However, Clever is in the forums right now, and I will expect a claim from him soon.

sorry just checking in (have it pulled up on my computer just im using a different tab just checking into one game at a time) but anyway i really dont wanna claim so ill just say one thing

i have a few powers that i can use at night one which was to silence someone and i thought it was interesting and i have never used it before so i wanted to use it(only now do i realize how important that power is) but i get all my powers back when i have used them all one time (but after using them i have to wait to "recharge" (one night) i have never had a role like this so im a tiny bit confused but that is what i know about it.

Thats a good claim... It explains why SG7 is silenced. But there is one flaw in it, which we will have to wait to find out if it will show up later... unvote as you are cleared for now...

[new guy1]

Also, why would you pick SG7, one of the most active, profound people in the game to silence?

[new guy1]

Sorry for the triple post, but also, what is your character's name?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Sorry for the triple post, but also, what is your character's name?

triple post accepted lol
and i was told i didnt have to fully claim?

[new guy1]

Sorry for the triple post, but also, what is your character's name?

triple post accepted lol
and i was told i didnt have to fully claim?

You dont. I just misread and thought it said you would claim, I now see it says your not willing. I do wonder why since you are clearly softclaiming JOAT, you wont give us your character name for more information on what kind of character roles might be in this game.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Sorry for the triple post, but also, what is your character's name?

triple post accepted lol
and i was told i didnt have to fully claim?

You dont. I just misread and thought it said you would claim, I now see it says your not willing. I do wonder why since you are clearly softclaiming JOAT, you wont give us your character name for more information on what kind of character roles might be in this game.

WOAH ..JOAT? who said anything about that??
ya but i am about to leave school ..let me think about it lol i probably will but later since i have to leave

[jgordon1111]

Ok leehar, To me Sg7 more or less claimed with the name and not knowing what his role does,to me that says SK or third party which is pretty darn close to a claim. Thats just the way I read it. And the fact that he is not throwing out a defence.

So with him, NG1,hippo,and/ claiming thats 4.

Not protecting anyone,just to many claims out now. All we are doing is giving mafia targets. We are giving up what power roles we have.

I am taking into consideration the day kill what other surprises do they have for us,thats why I am saying to everyone please quit claiming your roles.

NG1 I am of the opposite opinion on clever's soft claim, to me it's putting him more on the spot than taking him off. But like you said there are other questions for him.

Like I said earlier I am leaning toward sg7 Sk or other third party. But too many claims being thrown out to lock down one person.

We need to focus on one person for a minute clear them or lynch them,and have a plan on who is next. And who to try and protect on N2

I am inclined at this point NG1 is a watcher,either hippo or / is a tracker not certain which is the tracker though leaning to /

[TheCrown]

Sorry guys, this is really confusing for me when you use your abbreviations for people's names, since I know no one here. You guys also get going off on your own crusades.... I think we need to focus on one issue at a time, 1 person at a time. I may be wrong....

@betiko... you are so way off man.... I can 100% prove my role, but we don't need that right now, we need to chase down 1 of the scummies.

[new guy1]

Kg, the only problem I have with your post is that u r trying to frame SG7 as a bad guy. Have u forgotten that he has been silenced and so has 3 posts left for today? To me you r trying to paint him in a bad light and so I would like to tell you something. If u r trying to change your play style and not post so much, maybe you should start by not forgetting information and skimming, since that is the main thing that is making me think you want to be able to show contribution, but don't want to dig deep enough into any situation to get yourself pinned to the lynching of a townie... if that makes sense. In other words you are pressuring alot of people so that you can make them all look bad while u let other people dig up dirt. I'm o. My phone so I appoligize for any mistakes or anything.

[jgordon1111]

Kg, the only problem I have with your post is that u r trying to frame SG7 as a bad guy. Have u forgotten that he has been silenced and so has 3 posts left for today? To me you r trying to paint him in a bad light and so I would like to tell you something. If u r trying to change your play style and not post so much, maybe you should start by not forgetting information and skimming, since that is the main thing that is making me think you want to be able to show contribution, but don't want to dig deep enough into any situation to get yourself pinned to the lynching of a townie... if that makes sense. In other words you are pressuring alot of people so that you can make them all look bad while u let other people dig up dirt. I'm o. My phone so I appoligize for any mistakes or anything.

NG1 if you were talking to me Look where my vote is, I am not trying to frame SG7,clever silenced him, but he claims not to know what his role does, that is unusual in mafia games you dont know what your role does.

But my vote is on clever for silencing him, clever says basically just because, was it really?

And you are protecting the heck out of SG7 for some reason. First when everyone was focusing on him you went elswhere,to get someone who had already explained themselves(I went to the vacation thread, I found it odd ghost basically alibied him on tuesday and the three of you go to school together apparently. yet you still went for him knowing he was out of school and offline instead of forcing SG7 to claim WHY?

[Leehar]

Still, while I have no need to defend sg7 either, how on earth would he be sk if he targeted / first night? :s

[betiko]

Sorry guys, this is really confusing for me when you use your abbreviations for people's names, since I know no one here. You guys also get going off on your own crusades.... I think we need to focus on one issue at a time, 1 person at a time. I may be wrong....

@betiko... you are so way off man.... I can 100% prove my role, but we don't need that right now, we need to chase down 1 of the scummies.

the only thing you need to know about me is that if i get night killed you will be lynched the next day by town. I'm telling it again to the town in case they didn't pay attention; but you are my life insurance. If we let you live just hope you are a goon and not a powerfull mafia. If we lynch you i will most probably get night killed. either way, 1-1 is beneficial for town, pretty cool.

regarding clever....... are you the joker? did you day kill ghost trying your powers? a honest answer with no wifom would be apreciated, so we could win fast.

fastposted

[betiko]

Still, while I have no need to defend sg7 either, how on earth would he be sk if he targeted / first night? :s

i don't see your point, why not?

[TheCrown]

@ betiko... you are making no sense. I am town, so if you want a trade-off, that would mean you are scum. What part of "I can prove 100% I am town" did you not understand? Really, let's focus on the other leads we have... you are barking up the wrong tree looking at me.

[betiko]

@ betiko... you are making no sense. I am town, so if you want a trade-off, that would mean you are scum. What part of "I can prove 100% I am town" did you not understand? Really, let's focus on the other leads we have... you are barking up the wrong tree looking at me.

lol, no need to bark, in fact i am not going after you today. there is time for this. if i get night killed or even lynched there will be trade off, don't worry, you will all get my point with my character's flavour. this 1-1 is a done deal I've already found you.

[TheCrown]

@ betiko... you are making no sense. I am town, so if you want a trade-off, that would mean you are scum. What part of "I can prove 100% I am town" did you not understand? Really, let's focus on the other leads we have... you are barking up the wrong tree looking at me.

lol, no need to bark, in fact i am not going after you today. there is time for this. if i get night killed or even lynched there will be trade off, don't worry, you will all get my point with my character's flavour. this 1-1 is a done deal I've already found you.

And I have told you, unless you are scum, you are totally way off. I don't want you to lead a crusade against me, because it will be a waste of time. For the record, I am Mason. Like I said, I'm 100% provable.... now will you focus somewhere else?!?!?!

[betiko]

@ betiko... you are making no sense. I am town, so if you want a trade-off, that would mean you are scum. What part of "I can prove 100% I am town" did you not understand? Really, let's focus on the other leads we have... you are barking up the wrong tree looking at me.

lol, no need to bark, in fact i am not going after you today. there is time for this. if i get night killed or even lynched there will be trade off, don't worry, you will all get my point with my character's flavour. this 1-1 is a done deal I've already found you.

And I have told you, unless you are scum, you are totally way off. I don't want you to lead a crusade against me, because it will be a waste of time. For the record, I am Mason. Like I said, I'm 100% provable.... now will you focus somewhere else?!?!?!

go ahead tell me more. so in what way a mason cannot be scum? mason is not necesairly town aligned, but good to know you are a scum mason, just knew about the scum part (if ever the mason part is true..)

[Some7hingCLEVER]

@ betiko... you are making no sense. I am town, so if you want a trade-off, that would mean you are scum. What part of "I can prove 100% I am town" did you not understand? Really, let's focus on the other leads we have... you are barking up the wrong tree looking at me.

lol, no need to bark, in fact i am not going after you today. there is time for this. if i get night killed or even lynched there will be trade off, don't worry, you will all get my point with my character's flavour. this 1-1 is a done deal I've already found you.

And I have told you, unless you are scum, you are totally way off. I don't want you to lead a crusade against me, because it will be a waste of time. For the record, I am Mason. Like I said, I'm 100% provable.... now will you focus somewhere else?!?!?!

go ahead tell me more. so in what way a mason cannot be scum? mason is not necesairly town aligned, but good to know you are a scum mason, just knew about the scum part (if ever the mason part is true..)

this kinda confused me? are you soft claiming mason as well