jgordon1111 wrote:Got to slightly disagree with clever because you missed some info.
Hippo and skill claimed mason partners.
I think I have finally reasoned out why safari said game was balanced but I want input on this possibility from others before I put a vote in.
I think there are 2 mafia in this game and no third parties.
the 2 mafia have multi abilities maybe. I think skill is the killer that isnt using the gun. thats why town vt have thier protection clever(suit of armor)
leehar I am assuming here that sheild is a bullet stopper to say the least.
and I can stop bullets but not the ninja stuff that keeps coming our way.
Now the reason I think that hippo is using the gun is first betiko's death he was there, we cant prove betiko targeted skill.
Skill and hippo knew SG7 was not responsible for betiko dying,yet let him take the rap for it.
/ asked if there was a POG in the game, no one came forward.
With the protection that was possibly available both skill and hippo went for NG1.
When / brings up the point of asking about a POG in the game again suddenly skill claims it to cover hippo,thus trying to draw away from them being scum as much as possible. And the fact that hippo can kill even as a tracker. Its all new stuff by a moderator making his first game he wanted to be original.
And again I point out nightcrawler(good guy) 2 face (bad guy) but a fakeclaim to be so absurd that it is a smoke screen designed to throw us off.
Again all conjecture on my part,but the only way I could see it all lining up.
You may have noticed me sitting back for a while. I wanted to feed out enough rope to let jg lynch himself. An by goodness he has!!
Just wheeling the truck back to
Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:09 pm, jg claimed Punisher. Punisher can only be a mafia role.
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Just a brief aside to answer
Leehar's questions:
[li][*]No, the PGO thing doesn't help. You have not factored in the fact that if someone visited Betico I wouldn't see it as I am a tracker not a watcher. [/*]
[*]I have no idea who
visited Betico - no doubt it was mafia but could have been skill!! (I am not mafia - but then I've already said that
.)[/*]
[*]Skill thinks it's possible he killed Betico but not intentionally, but it is equally possible that it was mafia that did it (and given skill is masoned to me and I am third party he must be third party too so I don't believe him to be mafia - that would be too weird!!).[/*]
[*]skill didn't need to claim yesterday as
we all thought SG was guilty but then we were all stupid!! I made it clear that I wasn't going to out skill, I am after all masoned to him!![/*]
[*]Third party are not a threat to town, we win with town. We want mafia gone as much as you do, killing us is a waste of time.[/*]
[*]i repeat, trackers target a person they want to follow. They see everywhere that person goes. They don't see what they do or who they are or whose side they are on. Kinda obvious really, it goes with the name.[/*][/li]
Anyway, back to my case on jg. On
Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:47 am, jg tries to get a mass claim. Mafia know who skill and I are and of course who jg is and jg wants others to come out and gert ready for the chop! Classic mafia move.
On
Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:45 pm, jg says that skill must be mafia as he is bad. In fact two face is inherently good (Harvey Dent) but went insane. His villainous ways are as a result of insanity not inherent badness. For that reason he is third party rather than mafia or town. Nightcrawler is a happy-go-lucky practical joker and teaser, and a fan of swashbuckling fiction. That makes him appear unpredictably and a good martch for two face as a mason buddy and third party.
On
Apr 15, 2012 3:38 pm, Betico sees the utility of Leehar's questioning post. I answer jg here:
[li][*]Yes we know that Betico targeted Skill for investigation. As skill says, investigation is unlikey to set off Skill's power.[/*]
[*]/ said what he said re Maxwell Smart not moving - so what?[/*]
[*]I am not mafia, and frankly a tracker role is a bit wussy for mafia! Can't see how that could be sufficiently useful in a game this small.[/*]
[*]Given I believe your claim of protector is BS, it is likely that you did visit NG1. You are the one who "tapped" him. not twicve, just once. But permanently![/*][/li]
On
Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:39 pm, jg feins that he is "missing something" and wants to look further into the issue. The only thing missing is jg fessing up to being the mafia killer!
On
Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:36 pm, jg asks so more questions. Another style change as kg get's more confident that he is suckering town without challenge. I respond:
[li][*]jg is completely overstating the power of skill. And playing the mod too![/*]
[*]skill didn't claim until he needed to. But since you hold such store in claiming, let's have a full and honest claim from you eh? Like that's ever going to happen![/*]
[*]jg overstated skill and my part in SG's demise. We are but two people, you are FOSing everyone else in that lynching![/*]
[*]Skill and I gave clear and full claims. Note, I didn't explain my mason status until necessary, but we are honest! The reason why fakeclaims are in your mind is that you have fakeclaimed and you are hoping no one notices. There is an expression: "me thinks the lady doth protest too much"!![/*]
[*]You are wrong, and I will expect you to be the next to die. But the way you post that you are trying to make yourself sound town. It's a clever post but I don't buy it.[/*][/li]
Here clever, who is bored at skill, shows he has bought jg's story - hook, line and sinker. Don't be suckered clever, think about it!!
Anyway, all this leads us back to the quote of jg's that I posted at the head of this post. I respond to that now:
[li][*]The suggestion there are two mafia's and no third parties is preposterous. The purpose of third parties are to balance the powers of mafia. Have you considered the possibility that a mafia may have the power of invisibility? That better explains why the watcher couldn't see them! But skill and I are masoned third parties and no doubt there are other third parties. jg's suggestion of two mafia's is a scare tactic to both make himself look townish opn the one hand while on the other trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator to seek further claims from other third parties. Again, this is just scummy all round.[/*]
[*]The suggestion that skill has other powers is fantasy-land stuff. Clever's suit proves nothing! Moreover, why would there need to be a protector and a suit? You've forgotten that you claimed protector in an effort to show the game was balanced, but now that bites you in the bekoohar!![/*]
[*]It seems rediculous that a protector could stop bullets but not hand-to-hand fighting. That's just confabulation gone wild![/*]
[*]Neither skill nor I, nor any of the others on SG's lynch, knew SG was town. We all thought he was scum! This is repetition but only to match your repetition that has gone without comment until now.[/*]
[*]Finally, jg plays the classic
ad hominem by reference to supposed absurdity of claims. There is nothing absurd about our claims, given they are factual for a start, particulalry because of what I set out above. If anything, our beloved mod can be admired for his creativity![/*[/li]
So ...
unvote vote jg.
